Sleep Sense Graduates - chat thread :D

[Foogirl]

I only realised that when one friend said 'oh, by you saying you still fed Lizzie...I thought you meant spoon fed'

Duh!!!!

Did she really think that at this point people just stopped feeding their children????

I managed to get to about 17 months with Abby. And to be honest, she was ready to give up long before I was. If it had been the bedtime feed that we were still doing instead of the morning one, I'd still be at it I'm sure! We had a little bit of leeway with the "socially acceptable" thing as with her being prem she was that bit smaller than others. At 12 months old she could easily be mistaken for a 6 month old!

 

[Foogirl]

a big lump of sugar, on a stick

Is it wrong that this still makes me think "yumm....."

 

[polaris]

Happy belated birthday Foogirl. Glad to hear that Abby is doing well, and yay for walking with only one hand support! It doesn't sound lame at all to celebrate it, it's an achievement and definitely worth celebrating. Hope she gets over her cold quickly.

I am 36 this year, not getting any younger. Although I actually got a nice surprise when I worked it out because for some reason I thought I was already 36 and that I would be 37 this year, LOL.

 

[Cattia]

Polaris - I have just started to get mixed up with my age too! I could not work out how old I was this birthday! I am 34 now. I don't feel all that different to how I did when I was 24 really!

 

[polaris]

It's a bit sad but I do feel totally different from when I was 24 - I was a bit wild when I was that age, partying and staying up all night etc. Now I just feel like a mammy and staying up until 11 p.m. is a challenge, LOL.

I have been feeling rotten all day, I think I've caught Thomas's cold, I have a horrible cough and sore throat and I have also lost my voice.

 

[Cattia]

I suppose I do feel different in that way yes - I used to be out all the time, travelling a lot, living the life of a 20 something I suppose, but as a person I feel fundamentally the same inside even though I know I have changed in my behaviour and attiitudes, if that makes any sense at all?
Sorry you are feeling poorly We have all had a nasty cold here too. Abigail still has the cough and is waking up snotty. There seems to be a lot of it around.

 

[Foogirl]

Happy belated birthday Foogirl. Glad to hear that Abby is doing well, and yay for walking with only one hand support! It doesn't sound lame at all to celebrate it, it's an achievement and definitely worth celebrating. Hope she gets over her cold quickly.

I am 36 this year, not getting any younger. Although I actually got a nice surprise when I worked it out because for some reason I thought I was already 36 and that I would be 37 this year, LOL.

Turns out it is (yet another) throat infection. She slept til 9am this morning so there was no nursery for her. Trying to work when you have a poorly babby is no fun!

I did it the other way round. I thought I was going to be 36 and was gutted to find it was 37

 

[history_girls]

Ladies I feel so young, some of us are not 30 yet

 

[PieMistress]

No more age talk as I will be 40 next year We are planning (?!) a trip to New York (hopefully) in a bit of a SATC styleee as it's a big year for my all of us in 2012! I deffo don't feel my age though (apart from having a young son and being an older mummy!) - my 20s passed by in a blur of having so much fun (worked as a chalet girl in the Alps for 4 years, voluntary work abroad etc etc) so there wasn't any time for settling down until now!!

I actually went climbing yesterday for the first time in 18 months and it was fab! It was down the local climbing wall and we went with other friends and their newborn and took turns to babysit (well their daughter slept the whole time and Kyle crawled around the manky floor!). I was asking how their little one was sleeping and got a shock when they said their one month old daughter (who is BF) was sleeping from 9pm to 6am. My eyeballs just about popped out of my head! I told them they were very very lucky indeed and long may it last!!!

Kyle is cutting his 4th molar at the moment and 2 mornings we have gone in to find blood on his sheets. Closer inspection revealed his gum was bleeding and a very very sharp part of the tooth indeed. Poor toot!

Trying to book a holiday for a week somewhere child friendly in Yorkshire - any suggestions? We were hoping to go skiing for a week to the Alps but it will cost a fortune to take Kyle and plus I don't want to dump him in childcare whilst we go off skiing, at least not full-time as I feel like I don't see enough of him anyway

Luckily the snow missed us this weekend!

 

[Cattia]

Hi all!
How is everyone? PM, did you find somewhere nice to go on holiday? TG - how are you feeling?
I can't believe I only have two more weeks left at work after this week
Hope you're all enjoying the summer weather. We spent the afternoon in the garden. Wish Abigail would finally learn to walk as all her trousers now have grass stains on the knees

 

[polaris]

Cattia I seriously cannot believe that you are nearly on maternity leave again! You will have another baby soon! That is so surreal! Hope you don't mind me saying that, it just really seems like your pregnancy has flown by!

HG - not even 30, wow! I would love to be a few years younger, mainly because I'm sort of feeling the pressure in relation to having another baby, I really feel like time is ticking on for me. It's funny I have gone from being not at all ready to have another one to being totally ready to get pregnant again in the space of the last few weeks. Unfortunately my mind might be ready but my body is not, still no sign of AF, boo!!

TennisGal - how is everything with you and La Liz?

PM - you are making me a bit jealous with all the lovely holiday plans. We are planning a week in Nottingham at easter to stay with my parents. Exciting? ... Not really. But I'm really looking forward to it nevertheless.

All is good here except that Thomas is going through a severe bout of separation anxiety - he screams and screams everytime I am leaving for work in the morning and he screams and screams again everytime OH leaves him with the childminder. This is new thing because for a couple of months he has been absolutely fine with it. It's not a very nice start to the day. On the positive side, he is full of "mama"s and "dada"s now, it's so cute. If he sees OH's shoes he will point to them and say "dada" or if he sees my jumper he will point to it and say "mama". My heart just melts!

Hope everyone else is well.

 

[Cattia]

Polaris, that must be very upsetting, I hate it when Abigail is going through a crying phase. Luckily it is usually DH who drops her at nursery, so he gets the tears and I get the smiles and squeals when I go to pick her up

Well, on the down side we are all losing an hour's sleep tonight, but on the plus side, I am hoping that this will break Abigail's latest habit of waking at 6am and make it 7am instead, which would be far more respectable.

We bought her first pair of shoes today She is not walking on her own yet so they are cruisers. They are SOOO cute They were also reduced from £22 to £6 becasue they are winter stock! All the summer ones were white or light pink - knowing her they would be black within a day so we got her purple ones which are much more sensible. Now let's just hope it gets her walking.....

 

[polaris]

Thomas has already prepared himself for the clocks changing by waking up an hour earlier than usual - 5.30 a.m. or earlier - for the last three or four days. He did the same thing last year when the clocks changed. How does he know??

 

[TennisGal]

Haha, DH was very excited saying L had slept in until 6:30, and they we realised that was 'almost' true!!

Ladies, how are you all? I've been MIA, as we've all been under the weather. Hopefully, like the weather, we're all a-ok now!

P - you're still a young chicken. I've been chatting to women at work, and the number of older mums far outweighs the number of younger mums...And I'm talking lots older than anyone of us on this thread! You conceived Thomas really quickly, didn't you say? Or am I confused? I bet you will again - you're body is just finding it's rhythm. I was getting broody, and just feel incredibly blessed - what with the ole ovaries. I know what you mean, though, once the thought is in your head...it's hard to think of much else! How are you feeling since stopping BC?

How is the separation anxiety? If it's any consolation - Lizzie is going through the same thing. She won't let go of me at all, at the moment - and bursts into tears if I even go to the loo! I am just going with it, and waiting for the little phase to pass.

Cattia - how are you? Lizzie had to have cruisers for a good while, as her feet were too small for walkers! She recently got her walkers, and delighted doesn't begin to cover it. She stomps around the place with joy! We had some lovely purple cruisers from Clarks - I've kept them...Have you had anymore thoughts about MMR? Or leaving it for the time being?

We are all chugging along well - I've got a whopping bump now! I've just started to feel 'normal' again, so it's been great getting stuck back into cooking and having my energy back!!

Lizzie is talking quite a bit at the moment, but what she says one day - she refuses point blank to say the next! We had 'oopsy, Mummy drop!' when I dropped some milk the other day. She said it everytime I went near the fridge...then when I tried to show her doting grandparents...would she repeat it?! No, she looked at me as if I'd lost the plot!

She's incredibly good fun at the mo, too - although I've been a super emotional ole wreck...because my baby has stopped BFing. She's now refused a feed for a week. She just wants a snuggle into my chest. I assume my milk tastes different now. I'm so happy that it's been on her terms, I'm just struggling with the ole emotions with it all!

We're planning a little trip to Brittany for Easter, which will be lovely - although France when pregnant is major temptation. I'll have to ban any cheese being consumed near me!!

Hugs to all

 

[polaris]

Hey everyone!

TennisGal - Brittany sounds absolutely gorgeous! I am a little bit jealous. Good idea to get a little holiday in now before the new arrival as I guess flying with two could be a bit more challenging. We went to Croatia and Bosnia when I was in 2nd tri with Thomas and it was absolutely gorgeous. Big hugs about the breastfeeding I do understand the mixed emotions. Thomas seems to be back wanting to feed again at the moment but I don't think it will be long before he weans either. You should be really proud that she has been able to take the lead and do it all on her terms, as you said.

Yes you are remembering right, I did get pregnant very quickly with Thomas, I came off long term BCP and had one period and then got pregnant next cycle! I was so surprised as I was expecting it to take a long time for my body to adjust to being off BCP as I had been on it for over ten years and didn't even remember what my 'normal' cycle was. This time round obviously won't be as quick as that though as I still have no AF. Off BC for five weeks now. The one positive thing is that I seem to have got a bit of a sex drive back since coming off it, so at least we have some chance of being able to conceive, previously it would have had to be the immaculate conception pretty much! I am trying to relax and go with NTNP and not think about it too much but I hate not knowing what my body is doing and it's hard not to get obsessed. A couple of weeks ago I was getting so many pregnancy symptoms (nausea, lightheaded, and generally just feeling the same as I did when pregnant on Thomas, although without tender boobs). I actually did two pregnancy tests because I was so sure I must be pregnant. I think maybe it was just my hormones adjusting to coming off BC because I'm definitely not pregnant and I actually don't think I've even ovulated yet. Nothing I can really do except wait for AF anyway!

Separation anxiety is still very severe. I'm sort of glad to hear that Lizzie is going through the same phase. I'm just going with the flow too. But it is very hard leaving for work in the mornings as he just gets so upset as soon as he sees me getting ready to go to work. It takes me a good hour or two to get over it really, it is a horrible way to start the day. For the past few months he was great and would just wave bye bye and give me a hug and a kiss but at the moment it is really stressful. He also won't let me do anything and will come up and hug my legs and physically try to push me to where ever he wants me to go.

Also last night Thomas just wouldn't go to sleep at all. Not sure if it was the change in clocks. I tried to put him to bed at 7 (new time) because he seemed tired but maybe I should have kept him up later because he didn't go to sleep and he screamed hysterically until he finally went to sleep sometime after 9. That is really so unusual for Thomas. I wondered if his ears were sore or he was in pain but he seems absolutely fine today. I tried repeating the whole bedtime routine with no joy. I then tried giving him a second breast feed - he fell asleep during the feed but woke up as soon as I transferred him to the cot and started screaming hysterically again. Eventually OH went up and rocked him to sleep and successfully transferred him to cot. I still don't have any idea really what that was all about. Tonight he went to sleep with no crying, thank god, but I kept him up until 8 whereas his bedtime has always been 7. I think 8 is too late really when he gets up so early. He has never had 12 hours at night but I do really think he needs 11 hours at night.

Anyway sorry for the long essay and well done if you managed to read this far!

 

[Cattia]

Polaris - we have had this a few times with Abigail, and I could only put it down to teeth or some strange unknown cause that we never got to the bottom of. She went through a couple of nights not so long ago when she woke up and screamed for about 2 hours in the middlef the night for no apparent reason. I was of course terrified that it was the start of a new trend and that she would never sleep properly again, but then she just went back to normal. It's so hard to know what causes these strange episides, but it's not nice when it happens. We actually had Abigail in bed with us one night for the first time ever becasue we'd been up so long with her and she refused to settle but then she just got over it, thankfully!

TG - so good to hear that you're feeling better and getting your energy back. It's such a relief isn;t it! I started to feel like I was going to be exhausted for the rest of my life, until one day I suddenly felp better, it was as though a cloud had lifted! I am more tired now, as I only have 3 and a half weeks left, but even this is nothing like the exhaustion of the first tri!

The breastfeeding issue must be hard, but I can't believe how well both you and Polaris have done, feeding both your LOs until they decide they want to stop. It'smore than I mangaged! Polairs - remember what happened to me - I didn't have my AF back as I was still feeding, and I didn't realise I had ovulated, and now here I am..... so don't lose heart, the fact that you don't have AF back yet doesn't mean you can't get pg again!

TG - I am very jealous of your holiday too! I know what you mean about the French cheese though - very tempting! That, the moules frites and the wine.... but you can still enjoy lots of other yummy things and I am sure you will have a wonderful time!

I only have the rest of this week and then next week and then I am finished work! It is so strange as I have hardly had time to get my head around it. There's just not the same focus on getting everything ready for baby second time around as we already have everything we need, it's just a question of washing a few things really, so it all seems a bit surreal.

I hope you're all enjoying the sudden heatwave (although I think it might have ended here as it rained this afternoon).

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