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Hoping - I've never heard of that before, OH was always straight in with me for all the scans! Good luck, hope all goes well and you have a lovely scan!!! x x x

 

[steph1505]

Hey!


Hoping - ive never heard that either! OH has been at every minute of all my scans! I dnt think u need to have a full bladder for 20 weeks! Its today isnt it? Eek!!!

Smiley - aaaah let me know how u get on tonight! My OH is doing it by himself tonite cos Ive got tickets to see the xfactor auditions!

Eek a whole week by ureself? Il come stay with u haha!!

Hows Oscar today? And big bro, hows he doin?

Ive got the dates for Brandons nursery settling ins... Not til august but im sad already lol!

Xxxxxx

 

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Ooh steph - enjoy the X.factor auditions! I'd be interested to hear what it's like Awww, Brandon's nursery sessions coming up - you will be fine. Once you see how much he loves it!!

Oscar is good thanks, he just seems to want to sleep... a lot. Which is fine if i'm in the house all day and can keep putting him down for naps. but if we're out he has a really hard time sleeping. He will occassionally drift off, but his startle reflex is really really sensitive so he will just spend the whole time jumping awake. So he just ends up seriously overtired!! It seems he'll only really sleep if I put him down in his bed (on his tummy) - he will then have 45mins - 2 hours or so. But after being awake for less than an hour, he's ready for sleep again!! So - it's difficult to give him the amount he wants unless we become recluses.

It's not a major issue though, just hopefully he grows out of the startling soon.

DS1 is good too! He's so funny at the moment. He is SO stubborn, but is hilarious with it. He just has to have things how he likes, he's like a little old man stuck in his ways! haha!

Well I think I got lucky with bedtime tonight. This is how it worked:

Oscar in his swing whilst I took F upstairs and bathed him. (running up and down a few times to give O his dummy)

Then get F dressed in PJ's with milk watching a film (Madagascar is his current pick)

Leave F to it - Get O's little bath ready upstairs in bedroom (where we do his bedtime routine) Take O up, bath, feed and put in bed.

F shouted me a few times, but was able to say "just a minute" and he was fine. Luckily he stayed put whilst I was upstairs with O. And Luckily O just had his bottle, I put him down awake and he went straight to sleep.

Then I just sat with F for a bit, story and then bed.

All done before 7pm!!! I am now basking in my glory with a glass of wine. It went smoothly but it was still a highly stressful situation!! I dread to think what will happen if it doesn't go smoothly.

Steph - Please please do come and stay with me for that week!!!

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Well done Smiley!! So glad it went well! I'll let u kno how i get on 2nite! Hopefully it goes jst as smooth!

X factor was faaaaab! I had such a good nite! At one point i went out to get some chips & there was Caroline Flack! Im so sad Olly Murs wasnt there tho!

But it was a really good night! A lot of stopping and starting but was good!

Lol il come stay with u... Think of the fun Brandon and F would have! Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Haha thanks! How did your OH get on by himself?? Good luck for tonight! I'm sure it will the smoothest operation

Oh that sounds fab! I did wonder about the stop / starting, but if it was still good that's great!

Ah hun, they would have so much fun!!! If only you weren't a whole other end of the country!

Hoping - How was your scan?!

Certain - hope everything is good with you and Eleanor?!

Beauty - You are going to need to check in often now, so that we know when / if you've had your baby

x x x x x

 

[steph1505]

OH got on fine! He took Brandon into the bedroom while he gave Oliver his bottle! Not sure if il do that tbh!

I meant to say to u abt Oscars sleeping... Does he not even sleep in the pram? I wouldve thought he would have cos uz use the carrycot for his bed?

Oliver hasnt been startling as much these days so hopefully Oscar outgrows it soon!!

Oooh yeah beauty ul def need to check in EVERY DAY!! Even jst the wee wave! Thats wot we did towards the end! U need to do the same cos wel end up assuming ur in labour lol!

I wonder how kbkb is doin...so sad she doesnt come on anymore! Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

I know, I was thinking about kbkb the other day.

I don't actually take Oscar out in his pram when I go out now. Cuz it's upstairs it's a right pain to bring down - but I think i'm going to have to try that. But yeah, that is his bed - he sleeps in that during the day when we're at home and at night so I guess I should just take it out with me and it might be the best bet. He can then lay on his tummy like he normally would.... but if we're just going over to someones house for a cuppa or something it just never seemed like a sensible option to haul that in! Def worth a go though!

Ah that's good he was fine! I've challenged my OH to do bedtime on his own and he reckons he'll be fine... they just put us to shame!! I couldn't take F in with us, he would just be too loud and i'd have to keep telling him to stop poking Oscar or something

x x x

 

[smiley330]

HV just been round and Oscar now weighs 12lbs 6 - still gaining lots!

Steph - I meant to ask you, is Oliver still having around 5oz a feed?

x x x

 

[steph1505]

Woooooo!! Go Oscar!! What a big boy! Good on him!

Oliver is having between 5oz and 6oz with every bottle! Wot is Oscar taking? And how often?

Well both boys r in bed! It wasnt easy tho...Oliver was sick all over me and it seemed to really hurt him!! He hasnt done that in ages!! And Brandon didnt have a nap today (thanks to my OH) so he was majorly overtired! But all is quiet now...thank god! I can see me crashin out soon lol!

Aww that carrycot is a pain to lug abt isnt it? But if it will help him sleep then it'll be worth it!

I meant to say...do uz get big smiles from Oscar now?

Xxxxxx

 

[smiley330]

Well done Steph!! It's such a relief when they've both made it into bed isn't it

Yeah Oscar is having 5oz feeds about 5 times a day, sometimes I'll give him an extra top up couple ounces at bedtime if he's had the previous bottle early. I'm thinking about doing a dream feed like u do, in the hope he'll drop his 2/3am bottle, but don't want to mess his pattern up yet. Will see if he sticks to this for a bit first. He goes about 8 hours though from his 6/7pm feed, so I know he can do a long stretch, just need to shift it!

Yep he's started smiling lots now, he started a couple weeks ago but then the reflux really hit so he never had any happy time awake. Now that's under control he's started doing it a lot!

What about Oliver? x x x

 

[Beauty2]

Hello Lovely Ladies!!!

I'm sorry, I know I should be checking in everyday. I'll definitely try to keep on that. Well, so far we have a something for baby to sleep in, a baby tub, and some onsies. LOL! We have NOTHING!!!! OMG!!! I'm starting to freak out. We wanted to wait to get everything so we wouldn't have to tote it during the move. We moved last week but now I'm waiting a bit because my baby shower is this weekend! Ugh!!! I should not have waited so long! I'll have everything by the weekend and it should be good but I'm going nuts!

I'm also starting to freak out about BF. I have no idea how to get the baby to latch on currently, when to pump, etc. I'm so confused!

Anyhow, still at work....check in with you ladies later!

I hope everyone is doing well!!!

 

[steph1505]

Beauty - do u have any bf classes u go to? Most maternity wards have bf specialists who will be on hand to help! Oooh a baby shower! Im so jealous! Ul need to let us kno everythin u get!!

Smiley - lol yeah such a good feeling when they r both asleep! Altho, they r both talkin in their sleep!! Obv Olivers not actually talkin but u kno wot i mean!!

Id def try the dream feed (altho, i need to wake Oliver a bit or else he'd take nothin!) I wake Oliver at half 7 every morning so that his bottles will be the same time every day! I know that sounds insane but at the moment, i need that for my sanity! It means he gets his bed bottle at half 7 at night & then we lift him at 11/11.30 for a bottle and that sees him til the next morning! Its good tho that u kno he can do long stretches!!

Btw....this is ridiculous and perhaps im jst tired...but i keep mixing up our babies names!!! I keep typing Oscar wen i mean Oliver and vice versa!!

Xxxxxxx

 

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Ah Beauty - you'll be fine. It feels like you have so much to do, but like you say - after this weekend you'll be all sorted! Enjoy your baby shower!!!

re: bf'ing and latching - honestly, the baby will know what to do for the most part. We were lucky in that Oscar had a perfect latch right from the start. I was just holding him then he worked his way down and latched himself on - it's pretty amazing they know this stuff!! The main things you are looking for is that his mouth is WIDE and takes in as much boob as possible (not just nipple). If it's slightly wrong, or feels painful, just take him off and he'll latch on again. Keep doing it until it looks/feels right. The midwives / nurses etc will watch as well if you want and check that its right so that you know what you're looking for!

Steph - Hahaha, that doesn't sound that ridiculous!! They are pretty similar names Also, I can totally understand you waking Oliver up so that his feeds stay the same times - I have thought about doing that, but I can never bring myself to wake him (in the mornings, or from naps) so this is the main reason his feeds change slightly from day to day. He's still asleep now, but I am NOT waking him - haha!

x x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Morning!

Beauty...i remember when i was trying to bf Brandon, they said his mouth should look like the K from the special K boxes lol!

Smiley - thats fab Oscars still asleep! Lol i hate waking Oliver too but i start to panic if hes due a feed and not getting it...silly i kno!!

He was really sick last night...like when he burped he projectiled loads of milk and hes done it again this morning! He hasnt done that since he started on nutramigen! Im totally freaking out that his reflux is gonna kick off again! Do uz think his jags could have unsettled his tummy? I think im clutching at straws a wee bit there but i jst dnt want to think his reflux is comin back!

Wots everyones plans today?

Certain...hows u and Eleanor? Xxxxc

 

[smiley330]

Ah bless him, when did he have his jabs? It's definitely possible they could've upset his tummy! Is he bothered by being sick, as in does it look like its painful?

Oh i have no plans today, its such a nice day tho so really want to get out somewhere with the boys x x x

 

[steph1505]

He had his jabs on monday morning! It seemed to hurt him last nite but he was ok this morning!

Aaaw its a horrible day here! Were having a jammy day, we all have the cold lol! My friend is comin over this afternoon and she is bringing her jammies haha!!

Where u thinkin ul take ur boys? Xxxxxx

 

[CertainTurton]

Hi all,

Sorry been missing for a while, been lots of chatter

Smiley and Steph - i am in awe of you both managing the bedtimes on your own. Im kind of dreading the next one (not for another couple of years ) well done

steph - wow you are brave waking oliver but i can understand about the routine. Its one of the things i hate about bf. Im sorry he is being ill but it really could be the jabs, Eleanor was sick after hers and she isnt a sicky baby at all. i hope it improves soon!

Smiley - how are you doing with the bottles? I was also wondering how your bbs are (sorry!) as in are they hurting/leaking with you stopping suddenly? Im thinking of bf until 6 months so was wondering if i would need to stop slowly etc. Hope you are having fun today

Beauty - wow i cant believe how close you are now. I can imagine your nesting instinct is really going now! the one thing i really would suggest you get soon is the car seat coz if baby does come early you will need that to get home, everything else can come after sooo exciting - have fun at the shower! re bf, try not to worry too much because you just wont know until baby is here. Smiley had a lovely experience which is great, however mine was hard (eleanor woudnt open wide and i have flat nipples) however we succeeded and have now been bf for 12 weeks! Its best to ask for help asap when you 1st do it and dont put up with pain. Also invest in some lanisoh (or US equivilent) you will be fine

Hoping - how did it go!?

AFM- well we have both been under the weather but Eleanor is much better now. I however still have an ear infection so im on antibiotics now- grrr. oh well. we havent let it stop us though, still out and about going to our 1st baby massage class today and the hv is coming later - im sooo keen to get her weighed as its been 3 weeks. she is growing so quickly! we tried her in the door bouncer today for 5 mins - she loved it!! we get so many smiles these days

 

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Certain - sorry to hear you're still poorly, enjoy baby massage though! I took Ds1 to that when he was a baby and loved it! Let us know how Eleanor gets on with the hv as well! Yeah bottles are going well thanks, actually my boobs are fine now but they did hurt like hell for a couple days. Seriously the pain is something else! I wouldn't recommend going cold turkey but gradually replacing a feed with a bottle until youve replaced all feeds type thing - that would be much kinder to your boobs!

Steph - yeah it does sound like its just from his jabs, poor little man! Your jammie day sounds fab! I've just put a load of toys in the garden so far - will prob venture to a park later on.... Just trying to pick the best moment when both of them have slept / eaten!

x x x x

 

[smiley330]

Also girls - can you tell me how your days go? As in how much they nap? / how long they're awake for before wanting to sleep?

Im finding Oscar only has an hour awake at the most before he wants to sleep again. He just woke up from an hour and a half nap but was ready to go back to sleep within 15 mins! It just feels like I spend a lot of time putting him down to sleep and I'm concerned he should be awake more? I dunno? Sometimes I feel bad like I'm pushing him to sleep when he doesn't want it, but he wouldn't go to sleep if he didn't want to would he?

Ugh, if your not worrying about one thing your worrying about something else!

x x x x

 

[steph1505]

Certain - sorry ur still feelin rubbish!! I took Brandon to baby massage, its great! He loved it & it became part of our bedtime routine! Let us kno how u get on? Aaw thats so cute she loved the bouncer! Shes def not a wee baby newborn anymore!!

Smiley - everyday seems to be different with Oliver but im starting to notice some patterns...

Il get him up at abt 7.30 and he'l be awake until abt half 9, then will sleep for abt an hour, maybe an hour and a half!

Bottle at half 11 and then he usually sleeps right through and il have to wake him for his half 3 bottle!!

Bottle at half 3 and then between these next two feeds he tends to jst cat nap for 15 mins every so often until his feed at half 7!

There has been days where he hasnt slept at all tho and hasnt even seemed tired!

I dnt think a baby will go to sleep if theyre not tired!! They would prob lie awake in bed!

It sounds like hes a bigger boy than Oliver tho, and ul prob find hes sleepin so much cos hes growing loads!

Lol i kno wot u mean, if ur not worrying abt milk, its sleep... Or lack of! Xxxxxx