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[Lost7]

Hi Lost,

First of all congrats on you BFP, gives me hope

Thanks for the reply. Only went with CB digi sticks as thought with me being a newbie might be easier. i will be getting the cheap ones off ebay next month tho. As you said can work out really expensive and knowing my luck i will become a serial tester haha!!

Kitty - i keep questioning whether i will be testing on the right days going to stick with from DC10

We tried for 19 months in total. I did 2 SI cycles, both unsuccessful due to Male Factor Fertility. I could stimulate my ovaries till they were black and blue - I wasn't the problem.

It's all down to personal preference with what tests you buy, I personally prefer 'One Step' OPK's.

 

[Xokittycatxo]

Quick question with the C/B OPK does the smiley face show your O day or is it a few days before?

I am right in thinking i am better to BD the day i see the smiley face and also both days after?

So confused lol!! Also what does EWCM mean? i am down with most of the TTC lingo haha

i am used to taking PG tests as the depo withdrawal gave me so many pg signs. Must of taken at least one a month! Thankfully they were the ultra early cheapies off ebay

Hi Lotts, if you're using the test stick monitor CB OPK then a smiley face will stay on the screen for 48 hours once you get a peak. When it flashes that means you're highly fertile so it's a good idea to start BD'ing (baby dancing).

EWCM - Egg white cervical mucus.

For the record, I used CB advanced fertility monitor and the CB sticks with the stick monitor - And I don't recommend either to be honest. Many a times it's MISSED my LH surge. I stuck to IC's in the end. The CB is more sensitive and would pick it up before the IC's (internet cheapie) BUT, sometimes they missed the surge - so were rendered useless.

I don't see the point in wasting £20-30 a month on their OPK's when the cheaper ones don't miss it....

Are you only referring to the cb fm or the cb digi opks? I just started using the cb digi opks last cycle and they worked pretty well I thought. I got the advanced...by mistake, this month but still have 10 of the reg ones left.

Now I'm a bit paranoid as I'm not testing as soon or as often....

I'm referring to both. Both missed my peaks. I did the CB Trial and thought 'these seem okay' so went out and bought my own, was okay for a month or two but unless you test several times a day you may miss your surge.

As per instructions you should only use with FMU (as that's the strongest).
Kind of defeats the object when you have to test more than once per day with expensive tests - you might as well test up to 4 x a day with IC's.

Ahh I see! Well last month I got positives on the cbd all day starting with 3mu so hopefully it will be that way again. I guess everyone is different and everyone has personal preference. I definitly test more often with ic...I think I justify that they cost less but end up using like a while box in one cycle....kinda defeats the purpose.
I will keep that in mind for testing though, thanks for the info!

Hi Lost,

First of all congrats on you BFP, gives me hope

Thanks for the reply. Only went with CB digi sticks as thought with me being a newbie might be easier. i will be getting the cheap ones off ebay next month tho. As you said can work out really expensive and knowing my luck i will become a serial tester haha!!

Kitty - i keep questioning whether i will be testing on the right days going to stick with from DC10

Yep I usually start testing once a day around day 10. I O late but it's getting sooner...from cd19 to cd 17 now and hopefully cd16 this cycle!

Do you temp/chart?

 

[Lotts]

Lost - i will be looking into them i am excited and hopeful for this month. if not i will defo be trying SI.

 

[Lotts]

Kitty - i am scared i am going to miss it if i O late. i have 10 so hopefully i will catch it
No i dont temp as i am not a morning person lol! doubt i would be able to read it that early haha!
I have an app on my phone that i note stuff in and tells me when i am 'supposed' to o etc

 

[GoldenRatio]

Can i ask how long you have been trying and if you were on any BC? how long have you been taking SI?

Yep we usually chat about everything but seen a few people say that when i came to BD near O their partners couldnt do it because of the pressure.

Are you still discussing you O days with him? maybe just avoid that subject around him?

I am glad i found the this thread as knew i needed to chat, its a long wait for everything (even if it is just a month lol) like AF, then wait for O, then what for AF or test lol!! its only my first month of proper charting myself and already losing the plot and having babies on my mind 24/7 lol!

We have been trying for six months now and second true cycle of SI. May first cycle I had the wrong pills so we don't count that one.
I stopped talking about TTC after our argument

As of today I have thick creamy cm and cramps

 

[Lotts]

Fingers crossed for this cycle Golden! Sounds good with the creamy

Which ones are you taking now? i will use the tesco ones on my next cycle if i dont get BFP. Thinking of doing staggered dose to work upto 200mg and on CD3-7.

 

[Dolphinleigh]

Well after getting bfp in October, I had another missed miscarriage started in DEC, but had to take misoprostal in January to remove gestational sac, basby never developed beyond a spinal pole and stopped growing at 8 ish weeks, just started AF cd3 today, taking 120 soy CD 3,4 and 5 then upping to 180 last two days, taking 1500 mg oif evening porimroise oil took, doing opks starting on CD 10 and fingers crossed that a healthy egg meets the swimmers this month.

 

[Xokittycatxo]

Well I'm out this cycle

Today was our only shot and we fumbled it. Basically he came mid switching position and we tried to save some of the swimmers. Salvaged a very small amount put them in some egg whites in a menstural cup. It was probably about 10 minutes in room temp egg whites when all was said and done and then I spilled some inserting it.

Pretty much the worst case scenario. I have zero hope and I'm just going to pray I O soon and I lengthen my lp at least.

OH is away until the end of the week so that's that. So down right now

 

[Lotts]

Well after getting bfp in October, I had another missed miscarriage started in DEC, but had to take misoprostal in January to remove gestational sac, basby never developed beyond a spinal pole and stopped growing at 8 ish weeks, just started AF cd3 today, taking 120 soy CD 3,4 and 5 then upping to 180 last two days, taking 1500 mg oif evening porimroise oil took, doing opks starting on CD 10 and fingers crossed that a healthy egg meets the swimmers this month.

So sorry to hear about your MC Dolphin

FX'd for you this month

 

[Lotts]

Well I'm out this cycle

Today was our only shot and we fumbled it. Basically he came mid switching position and we tried to save some of the swimmers. Salvaged a very small amount put them in some egg whites in a menstural cup. It was probably about 10 minutes in room temp egg whites when all was said and done and then I spilled some inserting it.

Pretty much the worst case scenario. I have zero hope and I'm just going to pray I O soon and I lengthen my lp at least.

OH is away until the end of the week so that's that. So down right now

i hope there was some extra stong popeye swimmers in there for you
Sending a big virtual hug

 

[pompeyvix]

Hi girls

Thought I'd post here as going to give SI a try this month.

Basic back story - been trying for our second baby now since August 2014. For a year my cycles were all over the place. I was tested for PCOS last spring and the blood tests came back with a raised free androgen index (whatever that means) but normal testosterone. I also have a borderline underactive thyroid. I was prescribed thyroxine & I've been on that since July and my my cycles are now regular again (regular for me is 28-33 days). I was also prescribed metformin, but only starting taking them over Christmas. I've now had almost 6 months of regular cycles and I'm still not pregnant. I have no idea what's happening during my cycle as I don't temp or use OPK's. I was using OPK's last year, but because I never have had a positive, I found them demotivating and gave up on them completely. However, I am going to try them again now my cycles are more regular and have just ordered a load of cheapies from amazon.

I've had a scan done on my ovaries and they look normal and healthy and I've had a HSG done which came back clear. I think my PCOS is very mild, although that hasn't been confirmed. I don't have any of the other typical symptoms like acne, excess hair etc.

So this month after reading all this thread and being inspired by some of the successes, I've decided to try SI. I am not even convinced I am ovulating and if I am, I think my LP is quite short, so I am also going to be taking B6 & B complex. A LOT of pills each day alongside metformin, thyroxine and prenatals!

I am new to all this as I conceived after just 2 months of NTNP with our Daughter. I assumed the same would happen this time round, but now 18 months in, I am starting to lose the will to live!

I am going to start SI tomorrow, which will be CD3 for me.

 

[Lotts]

Hi Pompey,

i havent tried SI yet, i will be on my next cycle if i dont get a BFP. This is my first cycle since the depo running out.
There are some great success stories on here espcially with BFP and moving O forward.
This is my first time TTC and honestly didnt understand how much actually has to go into it! i literally thought you had sex and 9 months later puff a little bub lol how naive am i?! i never knew that our egg only lasts 12-24 hours until i started reading chats on this site. I feel like a complete newbie lol!
You are going to be rattling with all them tabs but hopefully they will all help

 

[GoldenRatio]

Hi Pompey,

i havent tried SI yet, i will be on my next cycle if i dont get a BFP. This is my first cycle since the depo running out.
There are some great success stories on here espcially with BFP and moving O forward.
This is my first time TTC and honestly didnt understand how much actually has to go into it! i literally thought you had sex and 9 months later puff a little bub lol how naive am i?! i never knew that our egg only lasts 12-24 hours until i started reading chats on this site. I feel like a complete newbie lol!
You are going to be rattling with all them tabs but hopefully they will all help

Omg! U are just like me! I thought we would have sex once and I would be pregnant the next week hahaha I also thought af was my eggs coming out as blood. We made plan, we were gonna have sex September and have the baby in 9 months. My DH still doesn't believe that ovulation is such a small window.

 

[Lotts]

LOL! thats one of the reasons i went on the depo shot, i thought blinking hell if you can get preggo that quick i better get on something! worst mistake ever! Altho friends around my seem to just look at men and they are pregnant!
Googling and this site has opened my eyes soo much!! i had no idea about diff mucus or cervic positioning etc. i even have to say i thought women ovulated on the same day every month depending on their cycle length.
I am defo using the opk this month and my basic app tracker, then if no BFP will use the SI and maybe try temp charting? i am still unsure tho, i really dont want to start stressing etc but with all the horror stories i have read about the depo i just cant help myself.
I dont think my other half would believe me either, i am sticking to my guns and trying not to tell him too much about it all tho.
When i went to my nurse to stop the depo and explained that i would like to TTC soon ish she told me to carry on the depo then stop when i was ready and i would fall pregnant after the last one had run out! She had no sympathy, kept telling me i would have to lose weight (not in a nice way). i actually came out crying!!
People on this site are so helpful and really nice, much better than some of the professionals i have met! I am actually dreading the day i have to tell my GP that i am pregnant!

Sorry wow that was an essay lmao!!

 

[GoldenRatio]

Every time I got ovulation pain before I thought I got bladder infection and I would drink cranberry juice a lot. Now I know better! It's ovulation pain lol I was way too dumb.... now I feel like I can open my own fertility clinic hehe

Definitely try to relax, they say stress can delay things. I haven't managed to relax but I'm trying. I used to talk about ttc all the time but not anymore, DH says that I have been more relaxed lol I guess I managed to convince him hehe
My doctor told me to lose weight too and said hav sex! And I was gonna be like "really?! Sex? I never knew that!!!" Doctors always manage to piss me off. I'm not overweight but I do hav big butt which DH loves and I don't like how he tries solving my fertility problem with weight.

Usually after bc, ppl fall pregnant pretty quick so don't stress, I'm sure it will be easy for u. I didn't use bc so don't hav experience with that.

 

[Dolphinleigh]

B6 or b complex and maca root, how much want the progesterone and a little lp help along with soy and evening primrose oil

Thanks

 

[pompeyvix]

I was very guilty of just going with the flow and assuming I'd fall pregnant. All this stuff is new to me!

However, after further thoughts I've decided to give SI a miss this month. I need to know where I'm at re my cycles and if I dont know whether or not I'm ovulating and what my luteal phase is, I won't know if the SI is having an effect or not. I dont think I'll temp, all sounds rather complicated for me, but I will start using opk's around day 12 and get an idea of I'm ovulating or not and if so when. Then I have something to measure when I start SI assuming I don't fall pregnant this month (not likely!). I will keep following this thread and update on any opk's I take which are showing signs of ovulation. Only cd3 now, so will be back later in my cycle

 

[Clover1]

Hey girls
I'm new to the forum but I'm an active member on another forum pregnancy forum that seems to have stopped working! !
I'm CD 5/6 and was thinking of taking SI but is it too late in my cycle? I have been on Clomid in the past
xxxxx

 

[Xokittycatxo]

I was very guilty of just going with the flow and assuming I'd fall pregnant. All this stuff is new to me!

However, after further thoughts I've decided to give SI a miss this month. I need to know where I'm at re my cycles and if I dont know whether or not I'm ovulating and what my luteal phase is, I won't know if the SI is having an effect or not. I dont think I'll temp, all sounds rather complicated for me, but I will start using opk's around day 12 and get an idea of I'm ovulating or not and if so when. Then I have something to measure when I start SI assuming I don't fall pregnant this month (not likely!). I will keep following this thread and update on any opk's I take which are showing signs of ovulation. Only cd3 now, so will be back later in my cycle

I thought the same thing about temping and charting but after I downloaded fertility friend and started it, it's actually quite easy and I don't have to stress about opks being wrong or when I O after a positive because temp shift is there to confirm. It's just part my routine now like brushing my teeth.

Hey girls
I'm new to the forum but I'm an active member on another forum pregnancy forum that seems to have stopped working! !
I'm CD 5/6 and was thinking of taking SI but is it too late in my cycle? I have been on Clomid in the past
xxxxx

You can take SI as late as cycle day 5-9 but after that, it could effect your fertility negatively.

 

[Xokittycatxo]

Hi girls

Thought I'd post here as going to give SI a try this month.

Basic back story - been trying for our second baby now since August 2014. For a year my cycles were all over the place. I was tested for PCOS last spring and the blood tests came back with a raised free androgen index (whatever that means) but normal testosterone. I also have a borderline underactive thyroid. I was prescribed thyroxine & I've been on that since July and my my cycles are now regular again (regular for me is 28-33 days). I was also prescribed metformin, but only starting taking them over Christmas. I've now had almost 6 months of regular cycles and I'm still not pregnant. I have no idea what's happening during my cycle as I don't temp or use OPK's. I was using OPK's last year, but because I never have had a positive, I found them demotivating and gave up on them completely. However, I am going to try them again now my cycles M .m are more regular and have just ordered a load of cheapies from amazon.

I've had a scan done on my ovaries and they look normal and healthy and I've had a HSG done which came back clear. I think my PCOS is very mild, although that hasn't been confirmed. I don't have any of the other typical symptoms like acne, excess hair etc.

So this month after reading all this thread and being inspired by some of the successes, I've decided to try SI. I am not even convinced I am ovulating and if I am, I think my LP is quite short, so I am also going to be taking B6 & B complex. A LOT of pills each day alongside metformin, thyroxine and prenatals!

I am new to all this as I conceived after just 2 months of NTNP with our Daughter. I assumed the same would happen this time round, but now 18 months in, I am starting to lose the will to live!

I am going to start SI tomorrow, which will be CD3 for me.

You sound a lot like me. I was ovulating but my lp was only 7 days. This is my second round of SI and I also started taking a B complex and B6 plus myo-inositol. I moved my O up from cd19 to cd15 and have lengthened my lp. This last cycle I took SI 3-7 and I think that's what I'll do next cycle.
I don't have much hope for a bfp after our screw up this round.
I'm also taking 1000 mg of vitamin c and 800 mg of vitamin e, I've read those two taken together lengthen lp. I also have natural progesterone cream I use after O and I'll also start flaxseed oil...another thing that is said to help lpd.
It's a lot of pills but so far, worth it!