Spouses with low sperm count.

[Traskey]

You can get home sperm testing kits but i'm not sure where you would get in the USA. Perhaps the drug store or online for sure.

A bad smell does sound like it may be an issue though so would recommend a visit to the docs.

 

[DaisyB]

Hi Ladies,

Ok so finnally we have been able to track down DH results, Its been a nightmare. My doctors we very unhelpful as they said they were unreadable and we had to requesnt them to be resent, the next time we called they told us they were lost but finally here they are. I have to admit to having NO idea what they mean, apart from the obvious looking at 85% abnormal forms and 47% immotile is never going to be a good thing

PH. 7.9
Appearance: Normal
Consistency : Normal
Volume : 1.9ml
Liquefaction at 1 Hour : Complete
Sperm Count: 27 Million per ml
Motility (A) Rapid Progression 21%
(B) Slow or sluggish 20%
(C) Non progressive 12%
(D) Immotile 47%

Morphology Normal Forms 15%
Abnormal Forms 85%

Round Cells <1million per ml

Next FS appointment in 3 weeks so will just have to see what he says.

xxxxx to all xxxxx

 

[MrsEvans]

Hi Daisy

the results are very good

(A) Rapid Progression 21%
(B) Slow or sluggish 20%
that gives you 41% motility they want 50% so with some vit C and zinc you could easily up this. 20% A grade is good and 25% is excellent so your almost there

Morphology Normal Forms 15%
Abnormal Forms 85%
4% is the minimum and you have 15% so thats excellent.

the count is over 40million to so you have nothing to worry about in regards to sperm.
i think Vit C and zinc would increase things so you had super sperm

overall i'd love to get those results from my OH, your OH has good sperm hon

 

[DaisyB]

Hi Ladies

My OH is on alot, i'll list them and write essential next to the ones that i think makes a huge difference

Vit C 4000mg 4x 1000mg a day ESSENTIAL - increasing sperm count and quality
Zinc 60mg Essential
Folic Acid 400mg Essential
Vit B Complex 100mg Essential
coq10 200mg Essential
Vit E 1000mg Essential
Selenium Essential
Multi vitamin for men

lycopene 25mg
pycnogenol 200mg
l cartnine 3000mg
l argnine 5000mg
maca 9000mg
Vit D 1000iu
Horny Goats weed
Omega 369 blend
fructose powder

most of what ive listed is in wellmans and fertileblend but i went for high doses as those capsules are for men with borderline normal results my OH first test was far from borderline so i think drastic action is needed

Also i read pages of advice from a guy called Rich who knows lots about sperm and added vitamins that he recommends below is a link to the other forum

https://www.fertilichat.com/forumdisplay.php?f=13

Also iherb.com is the cheapest vitamin place i have found and they stock almost everything, delivery to the UK in 5 working days

Thank you soo much for this Blimey, I showed my DH the list your OH is on thinking he might panic as he is not great with tablets! but he was really positive and like right lets get all that ordered !! ))

I also showed him the other website forum you posted and we read some of the great advice Rich gives about vitamins. Even though my DH is upset about his results i think it helped him to have a read and see he isn't alone and there are people and things that could help even if its just a bit.

Thank you ))

 

[babies7777]

Hi everyone

Hubby and i have been referred to a fertility specialist due to length of time trying to conceive and his sp. I have had bloods done which were normal and just waiting on an ultra scan
Im no expert so not sure how bad it is and would be really grateful if you could have a look and tell me what you think.

Appearance Normal
Liquefaction Normal
Viscosity Normal
Volume 1.4 ( a little spilt)
pH 8.1
Agglutination 0
Sperm Count 8 Mill
Sperm Vitality 51
Leucocytes <1
Progressive motility 6%
Non- progressive 5%
Immotile 89%
Morphology... Normal Sperm 0

We hadnt dtd for 6 days when he had the test done so not sure if that had a great impact and he had a cold.

Since then he isnt having any hot baths, coffee and is now on wellmans conception.

Any advice really appreciated

 

[Kelly9]

Those results are pretty good daisy I'd love my hubby to get a report like that! You guys should be able to work easily with that!

Babies, your dh's result aren't hopeless but 89% immotile is not so hot. You want at least 50% forward progressive to be "normal" you only have 6% also is the over all sperm count 8 mil? If it is that is low, normally you would hope for 40 mil total count. Over all you have some areas that need addressing but the normal morphology is great! Nothing is impossible.

My DH has a total count of between 12-23 mil, about 47% motile and a morphology of 10% and we managed to conceive naturally our first time. We're hoping and praying for another miracle this time around but just in case that first time was a fluke we're on the ICSI waitlist.

 

[babies7777]

Hi Kelly

Thanks for the reply, his results form looks different than everyone else who i have seen posting, unless im reading it wrong.
Under sperm count it says 8 then next to it it has the lower reference limit for WHO ( im guessing this is the normal value range) and it says 15 (12-16) x10^6/cm^3. I have no clue what that all means so i just guessed that it was 8 million.
Our old doctor referred us to a fertility specialist as we have been trying a while now and that appointment is soon so hopefully they will help us. I also have an ultra sound booked and my blood work came back normal and ovulating so fingers crossed they can do something for us.

Lots of luck with your ICSI and

Those results are pretty good daisy I'd love my hubby to get a report like that! You guys should be able to work easily with that!

Babies, your dh's result aren't hopeless but 89% immotile is not so hot. You want at least 50% forward progressive to be "normal" you only have 6% also is the over all sperm count 8 mil? If it is that is low, normally you would hope for 40 mil total count. Over all you have some areas that need addressing but the normal morphology is great! Nothing is impossible.

My DH has a total count of between 12-23 mil, about 47% motile and a morphology of 10% and we managed to conceive naturally our first time. We're hoping and praying for another miracle this time around but just in case that first time was a fluke we're on the ICSI waitlist.

 

[MrsEvans]

Hi Babies7777

they say that illness can effect your sperm so maybe your OH shouldn't read too much into them but if you have been trying for awhile maybe thats the problem.

also your OH 0% morphology can be improved try Pycnogenol 200mg
here a study that was done
https://www.reproendo.com/html/pycnogenol-research-study.html

good luck
x

 

[babies7777]

Hi Mrs Evans

Thanks for the reply, we are hoping that was what it was but im trying to be proactive just incase. Its really difficult at the moment as we have recently moved house and had to move gp's. Our old gp was great and after hubbys sa she said she wanted him to have hormone blood tests and an ultra sound whilst we were waiting for our referral appointment for the fertility specialist. As we had moved house though she said to tell our new doctor that was the stage we were at and that was the investigations we now needed. We saw the new gp yesterday and she just flat out refused to refer him for it saying fertility issues are a joint problem and therefore should be treated as a couple and to wait for the hospital appointment. This really annoyed me as yes of course its a joint problem but we need different tests so why couldnt she just give him a blood form and organise an ultra sound especially as our old gp said he needed them. Anyways i was so put off after that first appointment that i said to dh we have to register at a different practice so we have and hopefully they will be more helpful!

Thanks for the info i will def check it out.

Hi Babies7777

they say that illness can effect your sperm so maybe your OH shouldn't read too much into them but if you have been trying for awhile maybe thats the problem.

also your OH 0% morphology can be improved try Pycnogenol 200mg
here a study that was done
https://www.reproendo.com/html/pycnogenol-research-study.html

good luck
x

 

[MrsEvans]

also
15 (12-16) x10^6/cm^3

15 (12-16) x10^6 = this means 15 million for your total count

10^6 is scientific notation and means how many places the decimal place has to be moved. So 10^2 is a hundred , 10^3 means a thousand and 10^6 means a million

 

[babies7777]

Cheers for that,
I called the lab today as the left hand side of the results were confusing me and was told that they have the normal values and the average values so it was 8 million Hopefully all the vits will help.

Thanks for your advice.

also
15 (12-16) x10^6/cm^3

15 (12-16) x10^6 = this means 15 million for your total count

10^6 is scientific notation and means how many places the decimal place has to be moved. So 10^2 is a hundred , 10^3 means a thousand and 10^6 means a million

 

[Kelly9]

Oh I meant to say normally you're not suppose to save the sperm for 6 days before doing a test the longest they recommend here is 3 days otherwise it could affect your results. I am surprised they wouldn't have told you that prior to doing the test.

 

[babies7777]

Yes we both think that may be something to do with the motil an morph but would it affect the count? i would have thought that would have been higher if not bd'ed for a while but im prob just clutching at straws. Hopefully it was a one off and the next one will be a lot better.

Thanks for all your help, this thread has been great

Oh I meant to say normally you're not suppose to save the sperm for 6 days before doing a test the longest they recommend here is 3 days otherwise it could affect your results. I am surprised they wouldn't have told you that prior to doing the test.

 

[Kelly9]

It could affect the count as sperm start to die when they're in there unused for that long.

 

[babies7777]

I wished we had dtd now but we were both ill and when i was feeling better we were in the 48 hours before which they told us not to. The instructions said for more than 7 days so we thought it would be ok. Im so going to make sure the next one isn't that long no matter what.

Thank you for all your advice and lots of

It could affect the count as sperm start to die when they're in there unused for that long.

 

[MrsEvans]

Cheers for that,
I called the lab today as the left hand side of the results were confusing me and was told that they have the normal values and the average values so it was 8 million Hopefully all the vits will help.

Thanks for your advice.

also
15 (12-16) x10^6/cm^3

15 (12-16) x10^6 = this means 15 million for your total count

10^6 is scientific notation and means how many places the decimal place has to be moved. So 10^2 is a hundred , 10^3 means a thousand and 10^6 means a million

ahhh thats a shame. but i really believe in supplements and acupuncture can help too apparently. my OH will start a 6 week course of acupuncture in July before his 3rd test on 1st August. I'll keep you informed of those results too

start with some supplements and regular 2/3 day bding im sure your next test will be alot better

 

[kazzab25]

babies, your results are very similar to ours, i have had oh on vits and within 6 weeks his morph increased from 0% to 2% not a massive jump but not bad for 6 weeks, that was just on wellman but now i have him on some extras to!

afm we got our ivf clinic appt through for 23.6 cant wait! Bet they say i need a hsg before they will start icsi!

Im hoping for another sa as we have been on more vits and given up smoking!

Started my 100 mg clomid and today is cd11 and think i might ov in next few days! Got a good feeling so hoping one oh ohs 9 mil will make its way to where it should be!!

 

[Kelly9]

I'm on 100 mg's of clomid right now to, cd 8 for me though.

You likely will need an hsg it's pretty standard for most fertility clinics. The clinic I go to likes you to have had one within a year of treatment which means I may need to have a second one which scares the crap out of me cause it hurt a lot. I am going to ask if I can skip it since I was diagnosed as completely healthy before but I"m not holding my breath on getting to escape it.

 

[babies7777]

Thats so good, any increase would def help, dh is on wellmans conception now and only having decaf coffee so im so hoping that makes a difference. He is having his hormone bloods today thankfully after we moved house it was a bit of a nightmare getting the new docs to carry on with what the previous ones were doing, crazy really and stress you dont need when ttc is so stressful anyway.
We have our appointment on the 21st, not sure what treatment we will need yet, need to see what dh other tests come back with and i have been booked in for an ultra sound so im just hoping everything is ok with me too.

Lots of luck for the clomid, hope it works great.

babies, your results are very similar to ours, i have had oh on vits and within 6 weeks his morph increased from 0% to 2% not a massive jump but not bad for 6 weeks, that was just on wellman but now i have him on some extras to!

afm we got our ivf clinic appt through for 23.6 cant wait! Bet they say i need a hsg before they will start icsi!

Im hoping for another sa as we have been on more vits and given up smoking!

Started my 100 mg clomid and today is cd11 and think i might ov in next few days! Got a good feeling so hoping one oh ohs 9 mil will make its way to where it should be!!

 

[Kelly9]

We only have 4 more days till our consult apt at the clinic, it's taking way to long! At least I didn't have to wait till the apt to start on the wait list, that will cut off a month of waiting. I also hope the clomid works great and we don't end up needing ICSI. The procedure scares me a little even though the idea of it excites me, maybe I'm nuts