Spouses with low sperm count.

Hello ladies,

I got my hubby's SA results yesterday and they are truely terrible:

Appearance: Normal
Consistency: Normal
Volume: 4.9ml
Liquification at 1 hour: Complete
Sperm count: 1 million per ml
Motility: Rapid progression 0%
Slow or sluggish 0%
Non-progressive 2%
Immotile 98%
Morphology: Normal forms 8%
Abnormal forms 92%
Round cells <1 (millions/ml)

Not sure where to go from here. I bleed mid cycle so thought the issue was me, who knows, it could be both of us!

I'm starting him on vits today so fingers crossed we can get the count, motility & morphology increased! xxx
 
Are you getting NHS treatment? I would think with those results ICSI would be your best option

huge hugs hon
xxx
 
I am lucky enough to have private healthcare through my work so I'm hoping they'll cover it but right now I am awaiting a follow up appt with my gyno. Feeling a bit blue but determined not to let this beat us. Thanks xxx
 
Not the greatest results but I've seen worse. I would think treatment would be your best option to.
 
I am lucky enough to have private healthcare through my work so I'm hoping they'll cover it but right now I am awaiting a follow up appt with my gyno. Feeling a bit blue but determined not to let this beat us. Thanks xxx

Its so hard at first, we've all had bad results and grieved the same as you are now. But honestly it does get easier and optimism does return. Your lucky you dont have the waiting times of the NHS. I hope you get to move forward quickly Hon. I think the time to think makes its harder when dealing with the NHS.

Really though each time i read through the azoospermia thread i think im sooo thankful my OH has sperm because the road some women are going down is alot harder.

Please rant here if you need to, we all understand :hugs:
 
Yes, my biggest fear is that they say IVF isn't worth it as the results are so bad. Hubby has made it very clear that to him sperm donors & adoption are out of the question, which puts me in a very difficult position.
 
Your results are fine for IVF you dont need motility for ICSI just normal forms and you have 8% normal forms. Plus once the vitamins start working you may have an improvement.

so really as things stand you have options :)

xxx
 
That makes me feel a lot better. You ladies rule! I am determined for this to be something I can look back on and laugh about when I'm an old lady, surrounded by grandchildren. xxx
 
Hello, Ladies! :hi: I&#8217;m new to the web site and hope you won&#8217;t mind me coming to share with you. My husband and I have been trying to start our family now for a little more than year. He just turned 37 in May, and I will turn 37 in August.

My older sister had the classic case of PCOS which eventually led to Endometrial Cancer and a hysterectomy. She never married and never had children. I have been diagnosed with have a &#8220;touch&#8221; of PCOS. I have the heavy hair growth on my lip and chin and fluctuating high levels of testosterone. My periods have always been regular though. My major problem is being diagnosed with Adult Growth Hormone Deficiency. I have to take shots of Growth Hormone each night.

In late May, my sweet hubby volunteered to have a sperm count done. I thought for certain that the reason we hadn&#8217;t gotten pregnant was because of me alone. He had his first semen analysis done on June 1st. I was surprised when our Reproductive Endocrinologist told me that my husband&#8217;s count was low.

Our RE convinced my sweetheart to switch from briefs to boxers. (He always said he never liked boxers because he said they didn&#8217;t support him. Now he loves the way boxers feel.) I did some research and found out about the Fertility Blend For Men supplements and ordered a 3 month supply immediately.

Hubby has been wearing boxers since July 5th and took his first Fertility Blend capsule on July 7th. The RE ordered a second semen analysis which we took care of July 15th. In the meantime, our doctor had DH's blood work done. I asked him if he would because my husband hadn&#8217;t had a physical since he was a teenager.

I had also wondered if my hubby&#8217;s testosterone was low. He had always had a great sex drive but had really fallen off over the last couple of years. He had always been naturally thin but had gained a little bit of weight. His energy level had become almost non-existent and his strength wasn't as good as it had been. :sleep:

We got his blood work back and his testosterone was on the lower end of the range &#8211; 213.6 in a range of 175.0 to 781.0. His Luteinizing Hormone (LH) was 2.3 in a range of 2.4 to 5.9. The biggest surprise was his cholesterol level &#8211;

Cholesterol &#8211; 306 - normal is less than 200
HDL &#8211; 46 &#8211; normal is greater than or equal to 46
Chol/HDL Ratio &#8211; 6.65 &#8211; normal is less than 5.0
Triglyceride &#8211; 478 &#8211; normal less than 150
VLDL, Calculated &#8211; 96 &#8211; normal less than 30
LDL &#8211; 0.00 &#8211;unable to calculate LDL because of high Triglycerides.

Everything else looked good on his results. His blood pressure was really good. That was a relief because high blood pressure runs in his family.

Here are the results of the first semen analysis taken on June 1st &#8211;

PH &#8211; 8.3 Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.0 &#8211; Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration &#8211; 6.0 &#8211; Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) &#8211; 50 &#8211; Normal greater than 50%
Progression &#8211; Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 10
B= Slow or Sluggish = 30
C= Non-Progression = 10
D= Non-Motile = 50
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms &#8211; 4%
Total Motile Sperm &#8211; 6.0 &#8211; Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes &#8211; yes
Viscosity &#8211; Normal
Appearance &#8211; Less Opaque
Cell Debris &#8211; No
Cell Clumps &#8211; No
Agglutination &#8211; None
Comment: Oligozoospermia

Here are the results of the second semen analysis taken on July 15th &#8211;

PH &#8211; 8.0 Normal 7.2 to 8.0
Volume 2.0 &#8211; Normal 1 to 6 ml
Concentration &#8211; 10.0 &#8211; Normal greater than 20 million
Motility (%) &#8211; 41 &#8211; Normal greater than 50%
Progression &#8211; Normal greater than 25% A or 50 % A+B
A= Rapid Progression = 10
B= Slow or Sluggish = 22
C= Non-Progression = 9
D= Non-Motile = 59
Morphology (by Krueger strict criteria*) *Very poor fertilization may occur with less than 5% normal forms &#8211; 2%
Total Motile Sperm &#8211; 8.0 &#8211; Normal greater than 20 million
Liquefied within 30 minutes &#8211; yes
Viscosity &#8211; Normal
Appearance &#8211; Normal
Cell Debris &#8211; No
Cell Clumps &#8211; No
Agglutination &#8211; None

Our RE gave hubby a 30 day prescription of Axiron, a testosterone gel and a prescription of Lipitor. He wants to see him again in 3 months. Our doctor wants us to try for 6 more months on our own. If we don&#8217;t have any success, then we can try IUI and then IVF. He seemed optimistic because of the improvements in DH&#8217;s second semen analysis.

What do you ladies think? We are confused why a lot of his numbers improved but numbers which were good on the first analysis were poorer on the second.

Sorry for the long post. Hope you won&#8217;t mind. I'm looking forward to hearing what you think. <smile>

God Bless! [-o&lt;
 
Hi Georgiabelle welcome :)

our hubbies have very similar results with motility and morph. My OH got a huge jump in sperm count on his second test after 8 weeks on vits 38 million to 95 million :). i've included the list of vits he takes we have a third test on 1st Aug so i'll be updating everyone on any improvements that will be 5 months on vits so we should find out if my cocktail of vits work :)

I'm sure with the docs help and some extra vits in 3 months your third result will be loads better.

Vit C 4000mg 4x 1000mg a day ESSENTIAL - increasing sperm count and quality
Zinc 60mg Essential
Folic Acid 400mg Essential
Vit B Complex 100mg Essential
coq10 200mg Essential
Vit E 1000mg Essential
Selenium Essential
Multi vitamin for men

lycopene 25mg
pycnogenol 200mg
l cartnine 3000mg
l argnine 5000mg
maca 9000mg
Vit D 1000iu
Horny Goats weed
Omega 369 blend
fructose powder

most of what ive listed is in wellmans and fertileblend but i went for high doses as those capsules are for men with borderline normal results my OH first test was far from borderline so i think drastic action is needed
 
Hello, Mrs. Evans! Thank you for replying to my post. I was looking forward to joining you all on the discussion boards because you are all friendly and supportive. I certainly need friends and support during this time. I pray I can be a good friend and offer a strong shoulder to lean on for you all in return. :hugs:

My dear husband has tried to take multivitamins in the past but has developed a little difficulty in swallowing them since they can be pretty big. He said that he is determined to put that behind him so we can get our babies. He is a good husband. :wedding:

After our appointment with the RE on July 22nd, we ran by the store to pick up a multivitamin and some fish oil for him. We found a new vitamin for men called Alive! Men’s Energy. This vitamin has extra dosages of the vitamins that men need. After we got home with it, I started to worry that his taking the Alive! multivitamin along with the Fertility Blend might give him too much daily of each vitamin. I have become overly cautious over the years. :help:

Since so many of you all are familiar with what it is in Fertility Blend, if I list what is in the Alive! Men’s Energy multivitamin, could you compare and give us your opinion if it is all right for hubby to take both daily?

Alive! Men's Energy Supplement Facts
Serving Size:1 tablet
Servings per Container: 50

Ingredient Amount % Daily Value**
Total Carbohydrate <1g <1
Vitamin A (40% as beta carotene) 3,500 IU 70
Vitamin C 90mg 150
Vitamin D 800IU 200
Vitamin E 45IU 150
Vitamin K 60mcg 75
Thiamin 4.5g 300
Riboflavin 5.1mg 300
Niacin 40mg 200
Vitamin B6 6mg 300
Folic Acid 400mcg 100
Vitamin B12 18mcg 300
Biotin 40mcg 100
Pantothenic Acid 15mg 150
Calcium 200mg 20
Iodine 150mcg 100
Magnesium 100mg 25
Zinc 30mg 200
Selenium 140mcg 200
Copper 2mg 100
Manganese 2mg 100
Chromium 120mcg 100
Molybdenum 75mcg 100
Chloride 72mg 2
Sodium 5mg <1
Potassium 80mg 2
Saw Palmetto 50mg
Orchard Fruits Blend 50mg
-Pomegranate, Acai, Plum, Cranberry, Blueberry, Strawberry
-Blackberry, Bilberry, Cherry, Apricot, Papaya, Orange, Grape, Pineapple
Garden Veggies Blend 50mg
-Parsley, Kale, Spinach, Wheat Grass, Brussels Sprout
-Asparagus, Broccoli, Cauliflower, Beet, Carrot, Cabbage, Garlic
Resveratrol 700mcg
Lycopene 600mcg
Boron 150mcg
Lutein 100mcg

** Percent Daily Value is based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
† Daily Value not established.

Alive Men's Energy Multivitamin - Multimineral Ingredients
Calcium Carbonate, Cellulose, Magnesium Oxide, Potassium Chloride, Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Modified Cellulose, Gum, Saw Palmetto (berry), Orchard Fruits Blend, Garden Veggies Juice Powder Blend, Niacinamide, d-alpha Tocopheryl Succinate, Zinc Oxide, Magnesium Stearate, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Silica, Hypromellose, Cholecalciferol, Polydextrose, Phytonadione, Sodium Molybdate, Pyridoxine HCI, Manganese Sulfate, Titanium Dioxide Color, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Acetate, Cupric

God Bless! [-o&lt;
 
It took 7 months to concieve #1, miscarried #2 at 12 weeks, and have been ttc for 17 months now.... :(

DH SA #1:
16M/ ml
2% normal
poor forward progression

after a round of antibiotics:
SA #2:
39M/ml
80% normal
poor forward progression

SAs were done 1 month apart by 2 different labs....how are normal sperm so different?? i didnt think sperm could improve that fast. THe doc says sperm count of 39M falls within normal but it seems really low to me....anyone have any idea?
 
Welcome Georgia,

My DH is on FB and a multivitamin. His results actually got better since his been on them. We are adding Vitamin E to the cocktail to increase his count. His motility went from ZERO to 60% in three months and the morphology is at 20%. All we need to do now is increase his count. The Alive ingredients are very similar to the multivatims he is taking. They are One Source and we bought them at Walmart. In a few months it will improve. Good luck!
 
Dear Laine,

Has your husband been sick at all? When you do a SA it looks at the last 90 days. That could be the difference. I keep a calendar of everything DH does and when is time for SA I look back 90 days and see what he was doing that day. Whether it was illness or a drink after work. All that will make a difference. Is your DH on any vitamins?
 
Thanks everyone for the HELP!!!

DH had pnemonia in early march....was treated with antibiotics then too. He does occasionally drink beer (maybe 2-3 times a month). He has always exercised daily, taken a multivitimian and he eats healty. Everything the dr. suggested to do he was already doing :( They suggested another SA this month and for me to do the dye test, which my dr said is painful and expensive.... anyone have any suggestions on where to go from here?
 
also.... his sperm progression was rated at 2+ (poor forward progression). DOes anyone know if this is normal?
 
LaineB It looks as if the slow forward progression is the only thing holding you back, 39Million per ml is fantastic! The average male has around 4ml of sperm so that would be 39 x 4 which is great. My hubby has 4 million per ml which sucks.

I don't know about daily recommended vitamin amounts sorry.
 
Thanks Kelly9! It's so nice to have people who understand!!!!!
 
Oh I do, I feel like I could teach the crap and all the crap about the different treatments and diagnoses :dohh:
 
my hubbys sperm isnt too fab either ladies
1st sa
volume 2.5ml
19 mill count
40% motilty
2% morph

dnt count in april 2011
3.5 mls
20 mill count
40% motility
1% morph

he has now been on wellman and vit c 1000mg
and iv just strted him on a multivit and 25mg zinc too

his nxt sa is 8th august xx
 

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