Stomach bug with an infant (bit of a rant)- updated with A&E and reflux!

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We're having a bit of a nightmare at the moment. On Sunday babys dads sister wanted to come round and bring her 3 kids to visit baby, we asked her not to as we didn't want to expose max to any bugs, And we're still on a bit of a quarantine with him being so young. Anyways. Who turns up on Sunday? But his sister and her kids, she has a key to the house and just let herself in and within seconds the kids were prodding the baby and his sister had yanked him out of his cot and was holding him. I managed to get him away after a few minutes, which she wasn't happy about. Anyways, couple of hours later her status on facebook was how she'd been up all night with diarrhea and vomiting and was thankful it seemed to be over. We were fuming understandbly, she'd never mentioned that she'd been I'll. Now, 3 days late Max's dad has been up all night throwing up and has diarrhea, my stomach's churning, though I'm yet to be sick and my sister is starting to feel ill.

I guess the point is, what do we do if he does get sick? Take him straight to hospital? He's not even 2 weeks yet so I know if he does get a stomach bug it's serious. Is there anything we can do now? Has anyone ever delt with this in such a young baby and have any words of wisdom? We're very worried and absolutely fuming at his sister.
 
I don't think there is anything you can do now if he has already been exposed. Just hope he doesn't get it. Keep everything clean, etc. If he does get ill I would definately take him to the Dr's or the hospital right away as he is so young and becoming dehydrated would be very dangerous for him. Hope you both manage to avoid getting sick. I would be super angry too.
 
aww hun i really hope he stays well :hugs:
definately seek immediate medical advice if he shows sign of getting it...as trish said above, dehydration in newborns can be critical and must be treated straight away as things like their kidneys are still learning to function.

can't believe the cheek of your SIL - me thinks you also need to change the locks!!!! :grr:

oh and also, as i learnt with isabel when she got a little dehydrated, one way to tell is if their soft spot on head has sunken (sunken = possible dehydration, raised = possible mennigitis)
 
Id tell your sister to make sure she has cleaned her hands and what not when she is handling him and making feeds and what not just to prevent it spreadng. Hope your nephew doesnt catch it and as the girls says above would seek medical attention oh and if your sister is BF then she can carry on doing so it will help the little one fight against it x
 
Thanks Ladies. We had an absolutely nightmare night though, ended up in A&E! (This is very long btw!)

He had a big feed at 9pm, around 4oz but it took over an hour to drink, with frequent burps in between and then seemed to settle pretty well. But then just after 10pm he started to gag and choke, my sister picked him up and he projectile vomited, we got him settled when he did it again, but this time seemed to choke on it and started to turn purple and went floppy! We all paniced, in all my years of looking after babies i'd never seen one do that, especially so young, so we headed straight to the hospital. Of course once we got there he was absolutely fine and seemed quite perky.

The paediatrician had a look at him and said they would keep him over night to observe him as he'd had a 'non-breathing epsiode', even though she then said that this was actually quite normal. We mentioned the tummy bug but she didn't really pay attention to that and then said that we were over-feeding him. He was having 3-4oz a day, every 2-2 and a half hours, of course sometimes he'd have a lot less but never more than 4. We said that the midwife had told us to feed him on demand and she just said that they do say that but that he needed to be in a routine and put us on a strict 3 hour, 3 oz feeding schedule. He then started fussing for food but they wouldn't give us any as his next feed wasn't scheduled for an hour and a half so he screamed for that whole entire time, completely and utterly screaming without a single minutes break. Nothing we would do would console him. Several nurses came in and took him off us to try and quiet him, like we weren't doing a good enough job and would them hand him back when they couldn't settle him. It was just horrible, he'd never screamed like that before. We sat in a little room with no cot or anything for 3 hours waiting to be taken up to a room so we were all tired and Max still wasn't settling.

Eventually we ended up on the childrens ward where they hooked him up to an apnea monitor and got my sister settled into a bed. They then allowed him to feed and after watching him feed and then arch his back and gag and projectile vomit they diagnosed him with a bad case of reflux, they were slightly concerned that his heart rate was erratic, going from 130 to 190, but then said it wasn't a problem. He came out this morning and seemed fine, we kept strictly to his 3 hourly feeds, and he slept well in between. But then since 7 he's barely slept and is pretty much just screaming an hour before his feed and then an hour after his feed, as he vomits and arches his back and screams.

So,all in all, we're frustrated as hell, and very tired! The midwife's telling us to demand feed and yet the doctor is saying not to and we're overfeeding him. We were told he had bad reflux but they wouldn't give him anything because of the side effects (???) and told us he would have 'non-breathing episodes' and that they were normal but to bring him back in if he didn't regain his colour (start breathing in other words...)

Now my sister's an absolute basket case, the second he looks like he might be sick she picks him up and puts his head forward, she hands him straight to me if he starts to cry as she doesn't think she can settle him, especially if he turns purple again and generally spends just as much time crying as he does.
It seems like our happy little bubble has burst in the space of 24 hours and our content baby now screams constantly in pain. :cry: I'm now trying to research reflux, we do everything they suggest already, like propping the cot up, keeping him upright after feeds for at least 20 minutes etc. but none of that works so I guess it might be worth getting a prescription for Gaviscon.

Sorry, I know this is long and I don't really have any questions, I just needed a good whinge! I'm so tired but I don't want to burden my sister any more as she's already a bit of a wreck!
 
Well, I'm no doctor, but it seems really off that the docs are recommending (insisting) you give strict three-hour feeds, something which many people feel is detrimental to establishing bf etc. Especially if he is more unsettled at feeding time.

I would go see the mw/hv - ring medicom (if you are in London) and ge them to send someone to see you. And I would also feed on demand.

But that's me. I hope things improve for the LO.
 
oh no!! god how awful! isabel was admitted to hospital when she was 9 days old for checks and they said they were considering making her nil by mouth incase she was allergic to my breastmilk (how they figured that i don't know but thats another matter!)...luckily they changed their mind soon after and i could feed her cos i know how awful it is to have a baby crying for food...they get so distressed and like you say there's nothing you can do to comfort a hungry baby other than feed them.

i felt really cross on your behalf at them insisting you stick to a schedule and at trying to settle your baby as if you weren't capable :grr: whether formula or breastfed a newborn doesn't have a pattern to their hunger and some babies just can't cope with schedule feeding so if you want to demand feed your baby thats your choice :hugs:

why on earth wouldn't they prescribe baby gaviscon?? perhaps it might be worth you putting a thread on here asking others if they have any input on newborn reflux cos loads of peeps on here have that problem with their babies so may be able to advise you...

god what a worry for you :(
 

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