Hi first congrats to everyone that got their success & good luck to everyone still trying, do you mind if i join you? I have been forum member for a long time but not been about as much lately as had to put treatment on hold to complete adoption of my little bio (bio nephew) only got this sorted end last year by which time clear he had asd so waiting until he was settled in school (he has only just started primary 1)
Anyway now getting ready to start again have review consultation at old clinic next week thinking doing 1 or 2 icsi there between jan/april & if get nowhere (dont expect too) going go to serum, i would go direct to serum but as having wait till may/june to go there thought may as well try here in the meantime although dont expect it to work. xx
Hi Wannabmum :wave:
I think that is wonderful, that you have adopted your bio nephew! That is such a big-hearted, generous thing to do! Welcome to the thread, I hope that you can find the much needed support that this struggle brings with it amongst the wonderful ladies on here! My fingers will be crossed for you!
I know this is an older, not-so-active thread anymore, but wondering if I could still join? I just got the news that I'm having my third IVF chemical (4th chemical total).
Or is it just for women who do not have children? If so, I TOTALLY get it! I am fortunate to have a son from IVF, so you can definitely tell me to butt out.
Otherwise, does anyone have experience with repeated chemicals? It just keeps happening. It's like déjà vu! I just don't get why these embryos that apparently look good implant, but then fail. Probably egg quality, I suppose. Ugh!
Hi s08
... is it possible, that we were on the same thread way back when you got pregnant in 2012? I seem to remember your name.
Anyway, I don't believe that this thread is only for women who have no children. The struggle and the pain is very real, even when trying for subsequent babies!
I did have two chemicals before I got pregnant with Fabi (and he was on the 9th (!!!) try!. It is very difficult to know what causes them. Women have them in natural cycles too - often without even knowing it, because they are not following their cycles so closely. They may just think that their period has been delayed for whatever reason. More often than not, I would think that it is genetic - that something was wrong with the chromosomes of the embryo (neither the egg's nor the sperm's fault) and since nature tries to "select the fittest", the body aborts.
At our clinic, our RE told us about woman, who did have a child naturally and when subsequently trying for a sibling, was having repeated miscarriages (a chemical is essentially a very early miscarriage). They decided to test the woman and the man's genetics and discovered, that she did have two chromosomes that were irregular (for the sake of this story, I will say chromosome 5 and 13). They then proceeded with IVF, harvested eggs from her, fertilised them and then had them PGD tested at blastocyst stage. 5 reached this stage and were tested.
1 had two chromosomes that were irregular. One was 5 and one another.
Another had three chromosomes that were irregular. One was 13 and two other ones.
One had several chromosomes that were irregular (but neither of hers were).
One had practically all chromosomes irregular. This was, if I recall correctly, the best looking blastocyst!!
The last one was perfect, was transferred and she ended up carrying to term and having the baby.
The "moral" of the story - even if you are genetically fully healthy, we must never forget, that sperm and egg fuse. During this fusion, an entirely new being is being created and during this fusion, things *can* go wrong. It doesn't mean that egg or sperm were faulty - it's simply nature.
Now, if you don't have PGD testing done (which we didn't either), you don't know the quality of the embryo being transferred. It may not take at all, it may take for a little while - chemical - or it may take entirely and end up in a later miscarriage ... or - we end up getting lucky and have a happy and healthy pregnancy, resulting in a little miracle
As hard as it is, and as much as we need to have answers, sometimes, there just aren't any! And we can be thankful for science and how far we have come - but there is always going to be the element of nature and that we cannot influence.
My fingers are crossed, that you will get that sibling for you LO!