The LTTTC thread for everyone.

[Jennjenn]

It was the same for Monica....she had 2 kids when she wanted them. then years later she had several chemicals...she was diagnosed with immunity issues

 

[Milty]

I'm pretty sure I have some type of egg problem though or else I would have manged getting Pg more than once in 16 or so years

 

[crystal443]

I don't know Milty, I couldn't get pregnant for 15 years and then with DHEA I got pregnant in a row 3 times Feb, June, July of this year...I just can't hang on to them I just didn't realize the immune system could cause so many bloody problems


EDIT- sorry Milty DS is 14 now so we've been trying for 13 years because he was around 1 year when we started trying again

 

[crystal443]

JennJenn- That's right Mon did go on to have her little girl

 

[Bravemom]

Everyone is quiet today! Hope you are all good. When is Suki coming back, seems like she's been gone forever!!

Today the nurse called to tell me my results. She says "it's positive but it must be very early because it's low" Cue me freaking out, stuttering "what do you mean low?! How low?!". 1524. Which makes my doubling time 51 hours with 90% increase over 2 days. So it's good, she needs a definate lesson on how not to freak out a newly pregnant ltttc'er!!

Back to work for me in less than 2 weeks I love my summers off and always have a hard time adjusting to the new routine.
Hope everyone's having a lovely day

Those numbers are perfect and that nurse needs a good slap Yea kids back to school in six days for me

Thank you bravemom (I almost called you something different )
Yes the parents always love this time of year, school staff not so much

Yip coffee mornings and girls chats coming up It's too long anyway as the summer here is ten weeks Way too long

 

[crystal443]

Wow Bmom that is a long summer break the kids get a 6 week summer break here

 

[Jennjenn]

Ours have had 12 weeks off - I hate paying for summer camps! School starts on Monday woohoo!

 

[Jennjenn]

Milty - that's true...seems like something else has to be happening.

 

[peacebaby]

Hi ladies

Crystal isn't that book like a huge "lightbulb" moment? If you already have an autoimmune issue then there is no question about it being an issue for you in not being able to keep your babies. Its the same with me, I have Raynaud's but no NHs doctor made the connection. After reading the book, I felt mad & sad like you but also relieved to finally have an answer. I still had the tests done anyway and boy were the results shocking, I cried when the dr interpreted them. He said i would never hold a pregnancy without immune meds. Have a look at the back, Beer cites studies on natural supplements like fish oil and tomato juice to reduce inflammation & calm the immune system. Some of his patients started a yahoo group (reproductive immunology) where you'll find loads of case studies and other tips & advice from ladies there.

Milty, the details are too technical but essentially the theory is that even if you've had kids, those pregnancies (in your case pregnancy) could well trip up the immune system and it goes into overdrive, causing what is generally labelled "unexplained secondary infertility". Dr Beer believes there is no such thing in reality. The same with failed IUI's and IVF cycles.I'm no doctor but have to say that reading his book and then all the doctors who have taken his lead with this area of treatment - it just makes so much sense!

Mon_n_john's case is a typical example of this and actually her doctor put her on the least invasive treatment (no side effects) and it worked!

Jen, how are you feeling? Glad you have another 2 weeks off before you're back at work so you can take it easy. Your beta sounds good & its not the number that's important but the doubling time. How far along are you now? Probably best not to have too many beta's now and rather do a scan at post 6wks. Some ladies say drinking lots of water helps with the early pg cramps

Alison nice to see you here. How are things going with your Roaccutane regime? Must say though I never thought you needed it, you look lovely in your pics!

Afm, getting my meds this weekend and already my kitchen resembles a pharmacy

LL, Bmom, Jax, Ready, Suki, HA & everyone else

 

[alison29]

Thanks! I am doing great. My face wasn't too bad when on antibiotics and topicals (but that is so bad for a person taking long term antibiotics like that) I have been doing high dose so will be finishing up in 10 days (four months total) ...One more month of BCP after that. So my ovaries have sure had some rest. So I will be cleaning out my system next month and off the pills soon yay! Romantic weekend scheduled for end of Oct for OHs 40 birthday so hopefully good timing on the Bding.

IT is soooo rainy where i live in Florida a lot of flooding. I am so glad to see everyone making progress in their journey...I find all the immunity dr beers info fascinating. so keep posting I love the new found positivity on this thread. I do believe it helps.

 

[alison29]

Peace are you doing IVF? or is it immune meds?

 

[alison29]

I think vitamins def has a lot to do with a lot of our modern day probs...I read the other day that zinc supps can help people with inflammatory acne fish oil too. Seeing as I have a problem with that and a couple patches of psoriasis my system could use the vitamins recommeneded for wacked out immune systems.

Milty what can do to slow down the egg production?

 

[Milty]

Ya know I've been thinking about this and I'm considering try Soy.

Not like we usually use it though. I'm thinking of 25mg or smaller if possible from days 1 through 10. That way I stop right before O and let what's there go.

This could really screw with my cycle and I may not O at all if I do it.

I'm hoping instead it will be enough to allow only 1 or 2 follicles to grow and then on CD 10 when I stop the 2 can mature and I won't be trying to mature 4 to 6 follies

This is all just in my head so far but I'm thinking so what if I loose 2 or three cycles if it goes wrong.

 

[LLbean]

well I asked to do a full NK test thing and they said no...I don't think that is my issue personally as I am not conceiving and losing as much as others...

My new RE is actually doing a study on METFORMIN!!!!! I have been wanting to try that but I do not have PCOS so...the study they are doing is suggesting that it does dramatically improve egg quality and that they are having more successful IVF cycles with it!

I am begging them to try it with IUI as well. The nurse told me they are so lets see if she puts me on it

 

[Bravemom]

well I asked to do a full NK test thing and they said no...I don't think that is my issue personally as I am not conceiving and losing as much as others...

My new RE is actually doing a study on METFORMIN!!!!! I have been wanting to try that but I do not have PCOS so...the study they are doing is suggesting that it does dramatically improve egg quality and that they are having more successful IVF cycles with it!

I am begging them to try it with IUI as well. The nurse told me they are so lets see if she puts me on it

Am so happy things are finally looking up for you liz

 

[peacebaby]

Thats interesting LL, I hope they'll let you give it a go. I'm also excited for you with your new RE. Immune issues could also be the cause of failed implantation - which is what happens when an IVF cycle results in a bfn so don't write it off totally. But i think you're covering all your bases with your current supplements. Glad hubby is getting tested too, well done for that

Alison, we're not doing ivf, it's all immune meds and progesterone because one my tests showed an excessive number of certain cells that apparently attack progestrone, a result of Raynauds. This explains my terribly short LP. So your ovaries will surely be ready to rock n roll after that rest. Exciting!

Milty will your dr let you do the BCP before you try soy? Lots of options for you and i'm sure it is as you say, too many follies not maturing.

 

[peacebaby]

Bravemom i keep thinking who is this lol still getting used to the new sexy lady in town. Still doing your incredible long walks?

 

[LLbean]

well this does not mean that IUI will be the solution but at least we can try

 

[crystal443]

Good Morning Ladies

Peace- Glad you got your meds that book was my lightbulb moment and yeah there was definately shock, anger, tears..a little bit of everything but there was also relief that there is something that can be done You're right though anyone LTTTC should read that book So what happens with your meds? When do you start them?

Alison- 12 weeks for summer that is a long summer break for kids, so the kids here get 6 weeks for summer break from right before Christmas until the end of Jan and then they get 2 weeks off between each term so 2 weeks off in April, July, and Sept. 12 weeks in total for the year

Milty- if you have to many immature eggs, that's PCOS isn't it? Have you asked your doc about Metformin?

Liz- yaaahhhhh!!!!!! That would be amazing, I always think the one thing we have a gut feeling about is the thing that usually works, so everything crossed they let you try it with IUI and no as you said it might not work but it might too

Bravemom-Good morning lovely

Jen- Not too much longer til your scan and then you can relax!!

I think I'm ovulating I've had EWCM yesterday and today with ovary pain, this would be the earliest I've ovulated in a looooong time but it would be nice to get on with the TWW

 

[crystal443]

Liz- 36% is a huge improvment in IVF outcomes, if it improves things for IVF then it would for IUI too