The LTTTC thread for everyone.

[crystal443]

Yes, where is Milty??

Funny how we can go years without a BFP and then out of the blue its just there, I always think its wrong of docs to give numbers on chances of concieving because a BFP could be the next month. We were given really low numbers and got pregnant, you were given low numbers as well and your pregnant I'm just glad you proved the numbers wrong

I have honestly thought about writing a post in the ltttc success stories catagory, here is why. I would always search success stories and read stuff like "oh don't worry girls, I'm 40 and I got pg in 4 months there is hope!!" ugh! I always wanted to hear about ladies that were at it for a long time and weren't given lots of hope etc. I know I won't be comforable doing for a couple months still

I will always stand by what I told you the day you had your dr appointment and that is, Dr's can only estimate based on prior patients what your chances are for conceiveing but they cannot say that its a definate 5% chance its only what they think is likely If something is changed to throw your body off any particular month that may be all it needs to get pregnant There's so many unknowns about fertility to accept there's no hope especially when its unexplained.

Writing your success story for LTTTC is a great idea and will def give ladies hope that have been trying for a long time. Many think IVF is the only way after trying for so long but it can happen naturally. Go for it Jen!!

 

[HappyAuntie]

Love the new pic, Crystal!!

I know I wear lower-cut tops around ovulation - every other time I put one on I feel really self-conscious and change clothes before leaving the house, but around ovulation I put on one and think damn, I look good!!

Ready, what's wrong with thinking your son's young soccer coach is cute? Just because you're on a diet doesn't mean you can't read the menu. I've drooled over many a hot young man!

 

[readyformore]

Love the new pic, Crystal!!

I know I wear lower-cut tops around ovulation - every other time I put one on I feel really self-conscious and change clothes before leaving the house, but around ovulation I put on one and think damn, I look good!!

Ready, what's wrong with thinking your son's young soccer coach is cute? Just because you're on a diet doesn't mean you can't read the menu. I've drooled over many a hot young man!

He's tall and has a thick full beard.......... OMG.........

My husband just got home and hasn't had any dinner. I told him that I would make him a grilled cheese sandwich if he would have sex with me tonight.

 

[readyformore]

Yes, where is Milty??

Funny how we can go years without a BFP and then out of the blue its just there, I always think its wrong of docs to give numbers on chances of concieving because a BFP could be the next month. We were given really low numbers and got pregnant, you were given low numbers as well and your pregnant I'm just glad you proved the numbers wrong

I have honestly thought about writing a post in the ltttc success stories catagory, here is why. I would always search success stories and read stuff like "oh don't worry girls, I'm 40 and I got pg in 4 months there is hope!!" ugh! I always wanted to hear about ladies that were at it for a long time and weren't given lots of hope etc. I know I won't be comforable doing for a couple months still

I will always stand by what I told you the day you had your dr appointment and that is, Dr's can only estimate based on prior patients what your chances are for conceiveing but they cannot say that its a definate 5% chance its only what they think is likely If something is changed to throw your body off any particular month that may be all it needs to get pregnant There's so many unknowns about fertility to accept there's no hope especially when its unexplained.

Writing your success story for LTTTC is a great idea and will def give ladies hope that have been trying for a long time. Many think IVF is the only way after trying for so long but it can happen naturally. Go for it Jen!!

Jen, I think that if you find comfort in the success stories, then you should write your own. I'm sure lots of ladies will find it encouraging.

As far as doctors and percentages go.......honestly I think it would be unethical for docs, especially REs, to not give out the numbers. Their patients are spending thousands of dollars, not to mention their own physical and emotional investment in treatment; and it really would be unethical to not educate them about what their success rates are, (it's informed consent). My RE told me 11 years ago that, "Most women won't get pregnant with IUI." I did it anyway and it worked, but she still needed to prepare me for the fact that it's not infallible and that I should keep my expectations realistic.

I understand why someone might not want to hear the hard truth. There is always the chance of next month. And we have these lovely stories like Jen's to keep us going. But what about the other 98% that were in Jen's category? We don't ever hear the stories of people that don't beat the odds. Milty has a lovely story about herself and her 2 friends that ended up having children. But what about the women that never end up having kids? We just don't hear their stories because they are not encouraging at all. It's like the lady that adopts and then gets pregnant. Everyone under the sun discusses it, but no one talks about the lady that adopts and doesn't get pregnant, (which btw, there is NO increase in pregnancy rate after adoption, I say this for the benefit of anyone that might be lurking).
I think it would be a major disservice to NOT inform them that they need to be more proactive and aggressive. If they don't help themselves, time will pass by and they could find out that they are in the 98% and now they are heading into menopause. It's not like docs just make a guess or make up these numbers. It's years of compiled statistical data. And the 14 years of college education mixed with years of clinical practice play a role as well. I know that they can't predict how MY body will work, but they can make a more educated guess than any other person; including myself. I'd love to prove them wrong and get pregnant with only a 5% chance, but it really is unlikely. At least I can make some decisions about where to go from here.

I do love beating those odds though. I was reading last week what the success rates are for a fourth IUI and they were REALLY low. One source was even saying not to bother with it at all.........which is interesting because my son was conceived on the fourth IUI. So yeah, I was lucky to beat the odds. And Jen has conceived with only 2% as well.

 

[Jax41]

....so that makes me feel that statistics are just that 'statistics', %'s based on a minority not majority of women, and as we know they can always be beaten. I still think I'm going to be the only woman here with no BFP and no kids though

 

[readyformore]

....so that makes me feel that statistics are just that 'statistics', %'s based on a minority not majority of women, and as we know they can always be beaten. I still think I'm going to be the only woman here with no BFP and no kids though

I don't know Jax. I certainly hope not.

 

[Jax41]

Aww thanks ready, me too, I feel myself falling into a statistic!

 

[readyformore]

Aww thanks ready, me too, I feel myself falling into a statistic!

I think we are already there. Don't most people conceive prior to one year?

 

[Jax41]

Aww thanks ready, me too, I feel myself falling into a statistic!

I think we are already there. Don't most people conceive prior to one year?

Okay, you've outed me, I'm an 'old' statistic too boot!

 

[peacebaby]

Yes he did drink a can about half hour before! His SA was normal but not stellar motility-normal but could have been better. Maybe they should put that on the coke commercials, it's a whole untapped market

and he could make a fortune being "the face" for Coke's new fertility campaign.

 

[alison29]

I love your pic too crystal, it makes me sad i just had a bunch of dark added to my highlights...aw well dh informed me prefers brunettes anyway(ya thanks bud). Your dh is super cute tell him i said that!

As for my dh does not know how utterly obsessed i am with ttc the SIL with pregnancies has not helped my cause either. He has even said "do you really think about having ababy that much?" Communicationis fantastic around my home haha He doesn not know about my BNB friends or that i get psychic readings. Although i have gotten him to believe in my tarot cards.

My girl had another outbreak of a few lice. I have bought tea tree oil shampoo folks say the lice can't stand that.

 

[alison29]

where is milty? I want to see them lines.

I don't know what is going on with my cycle. Stopped the pills a couple of weeks ago and no ovulatory signs but could be i am dried out from the meds.

 

[peacebaby]

Crystal you two are a good looking couple, you look like soul mates together.

Alison your poor girl, she must be fed up with it. You can also add a few drops of tea tree oil to any carrier oil like almond oil and saturate the scalp with it and leave on overnight. Nursery schools have cyclical outbreaks and this is usually recommended to the parents.

I've just spent much of my day organising meds and the intralipid therapy for my next cycle. I actually made a file to house the various prescriptions and letters. Ah! the joy

 

[Jennifer01]

Where the heck is Milty?!

 

[sukisam]

Hi everyone

I'm CD 13 no lines on the opks yet but I really need to start shagging haven't had sex for AGES. Need to get all vampy and leap on OH

Crystal- you are your OH are HOOOOOOT!! I love, love the new pic you look so happy together.

Alison- the lice seem to be lasting for ever the little buggers

Milty- where are you? We need to see you POAS again

Bmom- hi sweetie hope you're okay. Any signs of ovulation? Hope you're having a shagtastic time

Jen- I hope you're still excited about your lovely little baby in your scan

Ready- you make me laugh looking at DS's couch . Hope you're okay

Peace- sounds like you need to be organised with your meds . Fx they do the trick

Jax- I really, really hope you do get your BFP and a baby

HA-I love the idea of you strutting around in your low cut tops looking hot

LL- how are you? Hope life is treating you well

Hopeful- hope you're okay

Hi to anyone else on this thread

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[Milty]

Oh my gosh I somehow got unsubscribed and didn't know it


I was wondering why everyone was so quite. Now I have to catch up
By the way this is the third thread this happened on. I thought everyone went on holiday.

AFM well my test are getting more noticeable but still very faint. DH can't see it at all and keeps looking at me very worried like very soon he knows my heart will break. He is not saying anything but I can tell he's concerned for me. He is such a sweetie. I keep telling him don't worry I really am pg and not crazy.

 

[peacebaby]

Thats so sweet of him Milty, being protective

Well the site is doing the opposite for me - it insists on sending me emails everytime someone posts here. My inbox is flooded. I've tried changing the settings several times.

Suki, get vampy

 

[Milty]

....so that makes me feel that statistics are just that 'statistics', %'s based on a minority not majority of women, and as we know they can always be beaten. I still think I'm going to be the only woman here with no BFP and no kids though

Jax I really don't think this will be the case with you. I think it is going to take you much longer because your odds each month are lower. However given the time you will.


Also something I can tell you from experience most doctors do not know how to calculate statistics properly. I don't mean the basics obvously they are very smart. For most scientific studies they higher out Actuaries to help them. So keep that in mind.

Ok I swear I will quit being nerdy now

 

[Milty]

I will post a new pic tomorrow ...I would post this morning but I'm at work and will be here late

 

[Milty]

Ok I've had some mild AF type cramping but now I have had brown tinged CM
...my doc has ordered blood work for me tomorrow