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[Jennifer01]

Crystal, you must have the patience of a saint. I have 2 reasons for saying this. 1 - you are so easy going about the letter when I'd be on a broom stick and fussing to high heaven. 2 - you can really manage not to test for that long? I shall never be accused of having such willpower...not even if I fake it on my best day!

Milty, I'm so excited for you! Please keep POAS so we can live vicariously through you for now!

LL, I'll be thinking of you tomorrow!

Peace, how are you doing? You're much too quiet.

Jen, are you feeling better?

Suki, I think it's safe to say that you're missed.

Hi to everyone else! Hope you're having a great week!

Thanks for asking, I am feeling ok depending on the day
I have my nt scan on Tuesday so hopefully if that goes well I can
stop stressing a bit (doubtful though!)

 

[Jennifer01]

Milty can't wait to see your results tomorrow

Peace how are things? What's going on?? I hope you are ok

Crystal sorry about your day I would be livid to get that letter in the mail talk about stupid and insensitive

Hi everyone!! Hope you are all doing great. Looking forward to lots of great news from you ALL

(bmom I almost called you by your other nameHow are you doing?)

That's ok you can call me T I'm ok af arrived onwednesday night ,no surprise there but it's very heavy and Im getting a lot of deep pains in my left breast / nipple so I'm a bit concerned ,am hoping it's just my hormones and it will leave wen af does otherwise I need to go to the docs ,anyway how are you my lovely ?

Have you ever had those pains before?? I had something like that but only while on clomid or pregnant Def get it checked out just for peace of mind but I would assume it's hormones too

 

[Jennifer01]

Hi girls

Thanks for thinking of me ....i'm hanging on a thread and having more meltdowns then i care to count. The up's & downs are either tragic, hilarious or "paranoid central" depending on how you see it. Nothing to do but wait until a scan will tell us more....one day at time is my official line but its more like one minute, can't help but let every twinge and then every non twinge worry me. A few days ago i went shopping for DH's birthday gift and right there in the middle of the London's busiest shopping street (Oxford str), surrounded by glamorously made-up shop assistants I realised that I had no preggo symptoms at all, just felt perfectly normal and that was it... the waterworks came gushing out and i came home sobbing in the rain convinced it was all over & without a gift purchase Very unlike the old me (rip).Even managed to convince DH who is great at pretending not to worry, that it was all over. Now to get through the weekend...

Milty glad to hear you got the progesterone, it can make all the difference in the early stages. You're not crazy, this whole process is one crazy rollercoaster. Thinking of you and keeping everything crossed xxx

LL, i'm so excited for you, definitely following the head cheerleader

Hopeful, that sounds such hard work but yum yum! I suddenly want salsa, relish & pickles but it won't be the same as yours and then I'll be disappointed. Hope that OPK goes positive soon

Crystal your chart is looking good. May the temps keep flying! Boo to the dr & that letter, sounds exactly like the NHS here. It really makes you feel like you're just a number to them. Hope you don't have to go through that again As for DH's colleague - what nonsense! Sounds like he added that bit just to "big himself up". Tell your DH I think it was a case of bitchy-ness and rather un-manly of the guy so he should have the last laugh. Usually its smug females who say things like that.Maybe his hormones need checking not enough testosterone in the tank!

Jen how are you? Feeling the glow yet? Haha just kidding...by my count you must be close to the 12 wk mark now?

Bmom sorry about a heavy AF and the BB pains. Wonder what it could be? but i hope it disappears soon.

Suki I was curious about the Beyond Chocolate course you mentioned so looked at it online. I think we'd all be interested to hear more and keep up with how you're doing on it so hoping you'll pop in sometime to cheer us up

HA hope ER goes swimmingly well and you report back on lots of top class embies

Ready, More4mum, Alison & everyone else

Peace I hope you are doing ok your nerves must be in pieces! I have everything crossed for you that this will all turn out perfectly. I would love to tell you to relax but I know I am completely unable to do this myself so I won't bother telling you! Bigand I will be waiting to hear great news. When is your scan, do you know already or did I just miss that?

 

[peacebaby]

Thanks ladies Jen I imagine the NT scan to be equally stressful
I'm waiting to hear when my scan is, it's a weird set up at the recurrent mc clinic at our hospital because they don't go by advance appointments for the first scan. They call you on the day & then its a wait until you're seen policy. Hoping for a call to go in sometime early next week.

 

[HappyAuntie]

Hey girls - there's lots here I want to comment on but I am really loopy on vicodin right now and can't think straight so it will have to wait... but I had to come let you know WE GOT 19 EGGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Now just have to wait for the fert report in the morning.... Not all of the 19 will be mature so they won't all be ICSI'd, but it's almost twice as many eggs as we've gotten in the past (8 on the first cycle, 11 on the second) so I'm super excited regardless.

If you want to read the long version of the retrieval story, it's over in my journal... I won't bore you with it here.

 

[LLbean]

way to go HA!!!!!

 

[peacebaby]

Oh WOW HA that is a great harvest

I don't know much about ICSI but will you get a good number of frosties from this?

That you responded so well to this protocol is a great sign

 

[peacebaby]

LL are you done too?

HA - the masturbatorium It must be so awkward for them but you're right its nothing compared to what you've endured.

 

[HappyAuntie]

I don't know much about ICSI but will you get a good number of frosties from this?

Hopefully! But we won't know until next Wednesday (transfer day). ICSI is the procedure where they inject a single sperm into each egg instead of just combining the sperm and eggs in the dish to let them do their own thing. DH has really low morphology, so we have to do ICSI. They don't ICSI the immature eggs (because there's no point - they won't fertilize anyway) and they won't know how many of the eggs are mature until they get into the lab and examine them under the microscope at the start of the ICSI process. So tomorrow morning when the lab calls, they'll tell me how many of the eggs were mature (and therefore ICSI'd), and how many of those fertilized.

On our first cycle we had 8 eggs retrieved, 6 of which were mature and ICSI'd, 4 of which fertilized, 2 of which made it to blast. We transferred one and then the other arrested so we had none to freeze on that cycle. Got pregnant with that one and mc'd a week later. On our second cycle we had 11 eggs retrieved, 8 of which were mature and ICSI'd, 6 of which fertilized, and 3 of which made it to blast, so we transferred one and froze two. That fresh cycle failed and then the subsequent frozen cycle failed, too. But since we have SO many more eggs this time, we're really hopeful that we'll have a bunch fertilize and make it to blast. But we won't know until transfer day because once they've checked tomorrow morning to see how many fertilized, they won't check the embies again until transfer day because they don't want to disturb their environment.

 

[LLbean]

yes I had my IUI this morning too...now we wait....and wait....and wait ...LOL

 

[Milty]

Ohh HA I'm so excited for you Yeah!!!!

So much waiting to do
Maybe I will start drinking coffee ...most likely I will just work more..


As for me I'm not pg at lest not yet. I got my results which were confusing.

Truns out my Progestrone was 18.5 (before I took meds) which is more than double for what it should be.

My HCG was 1.86 which is the lady said was normal meaning not pg.

I'm not sure where my pink lines are coming from because I know they are there. Both my DH and my sister saw them. Especially on last nights

 

[readyformore]

Milty. I have no idea what that means. I'm sure it's terribly confusing seeing the lines and then hearing that you're not pregnant.

Jen- glad you are feeling better....depending on the day. It got to the point where I would argue with DH about something ridiculous and instead of engaging me in the fight, he would just clearly state, "Go. Take. A. Nap." Right-O. Good luck with the scan.

Peace- Your meltdown on the shopping trip seems totally appropriate. I can't imagine the eggshells you are walking on every day. It has to be nerve wracking.

Happy- Rest up friend and take your stool softeners.

LL- Good luck on the 2ww!

Bmom- sorry for AF.

Crystal- I don't think it's weird at all that you don't have the urge to POAS. But, I think that you and I are the minority there. I actually prefer to NOT POAS. How horrible about the letter you've received. What a smack in the face. I know that clerical mistakes happen but this is beyond ridiculous.

Suki, Allison, Hopeful, Jax, Butterfly and everyone else.

AFM- my menstrual cycle is still boring me. But, I'm beginning to feel that I will be ok with whatever my outcome is. So that's a huge step. My mom asked me today what we "are doing" about ttc. I told her I really don't know. Unprotected sex is ok for now but I don't see it going on indefinitely.
Now I'm off to go knit a baby sweater for my friends that are expecting their first baby in February, (and yep, she got pregnant on her first cycle of ttc ).
And on a side note, my aunt told me today that it took her 3 years to conceive her first child. She got married really young, 18, and never used birth control. She does have 5 kids now, but it is odd to take so long to conceive when so young. I found it oddly refreshing.

 

[crystal443]

Good Morning Ladies

Milty- double the progesterone would explain your symptoms but not the lines very strange indeed but hang in there it does not mean you aren't pregnant it could mean it was just too early When I was pregnant with DD I had to go and have a bone rebroke in my foot and they had to put me to sleep, so I had to have a blood test and it was negative so I had the surgery and my AF never showed. I assumed I wasn't pregnant and had horrible PMS, I was 7-8 weeks when I finally tested and I was definately pregnant. I've got a 16 year old gorgoeus daughter to show for it so you could still be pregnant and its too early.

Liz& HA-










Liz, may your eggos be preggo as I type this
I'm headed over to your journal now

HA- I never say this but I am jealous of those egg numbersI am writing that protocol down and taking it with me to FS at my next appointment so he can have a look and see if any of it would work for me with low AMH I think he also wanted to try HGH this time as well Congrats and this just might be your cycle

Peace-
I know that panic well, and I believe its my reason for not testing I guess the best way to look at things is that the Intripalids are doing their job and its working, but I also know that's hard to believe after 3 mc's and wanting to protect your heart, a meltdown on Oxford street hey? DOn't be embarrassed, you had one of the common pregnancy symptoms..a meltdown I hope your DH has a great birthday!!


Ready- I'm just going to relax and not think about POAS There's nothing I can do anyway its either going to be + or - so I might as well just wait it out. If Af arrives it does if not then bonus. What really upset me with the letters was that it came from the Dr that did the D&C, the clinic is at the hospital so not sure if it got mixed up somehow or what but a very insensitive mistake to make!!

Jen- I've got everything crossed for you and your scan I'm sure it'll be fine though

H0peful- I hope you get your + OPK quickly and I hope your DH has energy after being in the fields to make that babyGood Luck!!!! and here's some baby dust:

 

[readyformore]

H0peful- I hope your DH has energy after being in the fields to make that babyGood Luck!!!!

I was thinking the same thing.
My husband and I go camping and never get around to having sex. We've spent the whole day in the fresh air, then the evening around a bonfire. We collapse when we finally get to bed.
I can't imagine having a physically demanding job, EVERY day, working outside in the fresh air and still maintaining the ability to create babies! You and your husband deserve a medal.

 

[H0pefulagain]

Crystal & Ready...

I actually got fussed at today by a customer for a "public display of affection". They apparently drove by last night when Hubby was heading out on an errand and he was giving me a kiss and hug before he left. I don't remember anyone going by? but apparently she did and she asked that we mind our manners when in the fields. HA! Bitter ole' heifer will just have to learn to adjust. I happen to like Hubby a tad bit!

Thank you for the good wishes and babydust, Crystal! I so want this month to be THE month. I know it's all in God's time but I sure am getting impatient!

 

[HappyAuntie]

Happy- Rest up friend and take your stool softeners.

OMG I started them yesterday! Every day, as long as I'm taking vicodin! And I anticipate being in more pain/recovery taking longer this time than in the past, so I am happy to drink my daily miralax.

HA- I never say this but I am jealous of those egg numbersI am writing that protocol down and taking it with me to FS at my next appointment so he can have a look and see if any of it would work for me with low AMH I think he also wanted to try HGH this time as well Congrats and this just might be your cycle

Hun, do not feel bad about that at all - I can't tell you how many times I've looked at other women's cycles and wondered why I couldn't respond that well. It's totally normal. It's hard for me to believe 19 eggs came out of me - I keep repeating it to DH because I just can't believe it. Now I'm anxious to see how many fertilize and then how many make it to blast... a change in protocol can affect egg quality and maturity, and I'm in such disbelief that we got 19 eggs that part of my brain is sure they'll call tomorrow and tell me that only 2 or 3 fertilized. I'm happy to share my protocol details with you - I'll PM you.

 

[HappyAuntie]

Oh, and count me in the ranks of the POAS-avoiders - I hate it. But recently over on the ttc #1 thread someone suggested a new approach - it's no longer a BFN, it's a red wine positive! So now every POAS ends in a positive, either +OPK, BFP, or RW+!!!!

 

[crystal443]

HA- thanks so much for the details You deserve every one of those 19 eggs lovely and I am so happy for you My FS also mentioned adding HGH to the cycle as well so I'm going to find out a bit about that as well. I would be stoked with 8 eggs tbh and 19 doesn't even register as possible, you must have been really pleased!!!

I like the new POAS philosophy and red wine sounds great as an option

H0peful- wow, so its now wrong to show your hubby you love him I don't blame you for getting a bit irritated about that It could have been worse, you could have been humping his leg

Ready- I agree, if my DH had to work in a field all day BD would not happen He's a computer guy so he's used to desk work One day of feild work would likely have him recovering for a week

 

[readyformore]

HA- thanks so much for the details You deserve every one of those 19 eggs lovely and I am so happy for you My FS also mentioned adding HGH to the cycle as well so I'm going to find out a bit about that as well. I would be stoked with 8 eggs tbh and 19 doesn't even register as possible, you must have been really pleased!!!

I like the new POAS philosophy and red wine sounds great as an option

H0peful- wow, so its now wrong to show your hubby you love him I don't blame you for getting a bit irritated about that It could have been worse, you could have been humping his leg

Ready- I agree, if my DH had to work in a field all day BD would not happen He's a computer guy so he's used to desk work One day of feild work would likely have him recovering for a week

My guy is at a desk all day too. If he did manual labor, I'm sure I'd get what I needed from him, I'd just have to do all the work. And that's only if I could stay awake long enough to get around to it, which might not happen. You know sometimes you have all the good intention of having sex. You talk about it, you plan on it. Then you get into bed and wait for the other person to make a move while you fall asleep! You wake up in the morning thinking, "Dang, we talked about sex and never got around to it." I have a friend that calls this oral sex. I have a feeling this would be DH and I if we worked in the field all day.

Hopeful.........where in the world do you live? I've heard of no PDA in some places in the middle east, but I don't think you're over there. If folks were upset by a kiss from your husband, I'd love to see the shock on their faces with you humping his leg.

I'm liking the RW+!

I just got back from dinner out with a bunch of friends. There were 7 of us women, we all have children. It was a really nice time, despite the fact that not once, but twice women brought up the topic of how much they are all hoping for an oopsie baby. They have such confidence in their reproductive capacity. They know if they could only convince their husbands' to have another, they'd surely get their baby.

Smug fertiles! I wish I was one of them.

 

[H0pefulagain]

I think I best not hump his leg in public! I shared your humping thoughts with Hubby and he had a good chuckle too! We are in Missouri. We have shared crop fields in a predominantly Mennonite and Amish area. Some out here are ultra conservative and I don't just mean in dress and manner. Grumpy lady is among them. Every time I see her now, I'll have a good giggle at her expense.

Thanks so much for being who you are, ladies. You're just wonderful!