Milty, your charts look just as confusing as some of mine.

I don't know if ff has given you the right O day as it looks like it could be any number of days. Sometimes I feel that I can detect when O was better than by temping. And I've noticed that if I follow tcoyf I get much better results, but only if I go by the book, the online software just won't work for me. I often need to use the slow rise guidelines and then it will work. But, I know that I'm ovulating and my progesterone isn't too low. So, I guess my body just like to be contrary to ff.
I was at work yesterday and I was working with a doctor. She has 2 kids, is 41 and we have shared a camaraderie about ttc. She had a miscarriage last year and has ttc for about a year. We would complain to each other about our lack of reproductive progress. She would joke about how her eggs were hard boiled and I would joke about how I have 2 eggs left.

We would see each other every 2 weeks and we knew how the other was cycling. We'd look at the other optimistically and then one would shake her head as she walked by. Honestly it got to the point where I told her we just couldn't talk about it anymore. There was never any encouraging news from either one of us. It got to be too depressing so I told her it was now a forbidden topic and we could only discuss our vacations.


Yesterday we were in a delivery where a woman had her 3 child. The doc said, "I wish I was brave enough to have tried for a third."
I couldn't look her straight in the eye. I know she was using it as a defense mechanism and it probably helped her to get through the birth. I know that we can't be serious about ttc and our experiences all the time. The burden and sadness will just weight you down on a daily basis.
But, it seemed genuine and convincing. And it made me wonder............how many people are out there in the world going through the same thing.

How many women with/without families are saying similar things and everyone believes them, but they have really suffered. Probably more than anyone realizes.
HOpeful- I loved your story.
Taylor- welcome to the thread.
Hi to Peace, Jen, Crystal, Bmom, Suki, Alison, and everyone else.
I am trying to get over a ridiculously long sinus infection and thinking of painting my laundry room this weekend. At least I won't be able to smell the paint fumes.
