This just can't be right!

Discussion in 'Formula Feeding' started by joven, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. joven

    joven Well-Known Member

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    Hi all,
    Sorry might be a long one!
    Lo has has this grunting more so at night ever since starting ff some nights he looks really uncomfortable but still sleeps through it, it's hard to explain its a nasal grunt but almost like he's straining. Initially he was on SMA and also started with screaming in pain around 1pm and again in the evenings and was constipated so we made the decision to change to cow and gate.
    He did seem to improve and we noticed he was less grunty and sick when using the ready made cartons so have for week trialed just cartons but the grunting seems to be increasing again usually when he is lying down in Moses basket and peaks after 4am feed and goes on until he usually has a poo after the next noting feed then improves until evening when he is grizzly and feeds little and often until bed.
    His poo has become increasingly looser and a mustardy colour with bits of White/ cottage cheese like bits but he only goes once a day usually.
    Today things have peaked! He has grunted for 4 hours solid and just changed his nappy and it was so loose and explosive I was covered! Upto my shoulder all over quilt and our bed dispite change mat (lesson no matter how tired you are always used change table!!!) it was huge amount that was on adult proportions. Now grunting has stopped and crying started.
    At my whits end as hv keeps telling me this us normal baby sounds but 4 hours grunting followed by projectile poo surely is not normal!
    Not sure what we should do? I thought he has had a bit of reflux and colic but hv rolls her eyes and tells me to switch off my 'nurse' mode but I can't help feeling this is not normal - there is a large part of the day he appears unsettled and in discomfort he also has monumental wind both ends although difficult to get up when it goes down it rivals an adult male!! :)
    So what do you think?is it normal ? Should I change formula? Is it possibly lactose related? Mentioned to hv for past 3 weeks and shown a video on my my mobile and she still maintains he's just vocal! Dispite it being for hours on end and accompanied by signs of discomfort!
    Any suggestions gratefully received
     
  2. Fabby

    Fabby mummy to my amazing boy x

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    If your hv isn't listening to your concerns I would go see your doctor xx
     
  3. summer rain

    summer rain Mum of 5

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    I would see your GP, it could be something to do with a milk intolerance but in such a young baby it is far more likely to be to the cows milk protein as opposed to the lactose, and in that case a lactose free milk will not be suitable; only a specialist formula available on prescription will be. Some babies have slight issues with lactose which a comfort milk will sort, as they are lower in lactose but comfort milks are notorious for creating copious amounts of explosive poo so if your baby already has this problem; maybe a comfort milk isn't such a good idea. I'd definitely get it checked out anyway as sometimes switching without medical supervision when you have problems like this; can seem to have worked but in reality it is only masking underlying issues for later on. xx
     
  4. sapphire1

    sapphire1 Well-Known Member

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    I agree with summer rain, it sounds like he could have a problem with cow's milk protein. Take him to your GP and ask if he could be tested for an intolerance. Holly has CMPI which caused reflux and she had to be put on a prescription hypoallergenic formula. Hope it works out ok x x
     
  5. michelle82

    michelle82 Mum to Paris and Leo

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    I would go and see your gp, sounds like he has some sort of intolerance.

    My lo was exactly the same and turns out he has a cows milk protein intolerance
     
  6. michelle82

    michelle82 Mum to Paris and Leo

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    Meant to say, Leo used to keep me awake all night with groaning and grunting 2!
     
  7. joven

    joven Well-Known Member

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    Thanks everyone. So far today he has been really fairly settled apart from the winding time after a feed but then he's usually not too bad in the day it all kicks off in the early hours. It's like something builds up over 12 hours andthen peaks with hours of grunting then the loose stool.
    Just said to OH I don't want to appear to be looking for a problem with him (which I think the hv thinks) but also I don't want to ignore a problem if it exists. At end of day I'm with him 24/7 they see him 5 mins. Problem is I'm a nurse and she keeps telling me to turn off my nurse mode and also told me it's not always a good idea to read forums etc!
    Met friends for coffee today and he started grunting and they agreed he looked to be in pain with wind or straining to go to toilet (which he wasn't) but hv says little bodies will have discomfort as they are going through so many changes internally at this age.
    Think we will give it another week on the cow and gate and then go back to them if nothing any better or sooner if it gets worse. I can't really argue with them as he is gaining a lb a week so they say not much can be wrong but this grunting for hours at night just doesn't seem normal to me.
    Thanks for your support xx
     
  8. Nessicle

    Nessicle Well-Known Member

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    Out of curiosity which bottles are you using and do you use oz or ml for the water before adding powder?

    Ava did this grunting and straining all night when we used Dr Browns bottles, turns out the oz measurements tallied up with the US oz rather than the UK so the extra water was making her poo explosive and she felt like she needed to go constantly. Switched to Avent bottles and the UK oz measurements and she was fine. My friend had the same problem. She measures in an Avent bottle before using her Dr Browns with the UK fl oz measurements and the problem went away with her LO!

    x
     

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