To drink or not to drink?

[Dragonfly]

I rather be safe than sorry and have none. I havnt drank in years. I know I can while breastfeeding a bit but I dont even see the point then. baby first now.

 

[ShanandBoc]

Im just reposting the vid and comment from another thread.

We have no proof that that it isnt the effect of alcohol.....i wasnt trying to scaremonger anyone.

Just to get people to look into it and think about it more seriously.

so because someone doesn't agree with your point of view, then they aren't taking the matter seriously?

this thread reminds me of why i shouldn't be on these forums. *sigh*

The OP asked for opinions, and i gave mine. i said 'more' seriously. Just because i dont agree with your point of view doesnt mean you have to keep singling me out.

I happen to be very passionate on this subject. If you dont think you have anything to worry about then you dont need to take offence at my posts .

 

[Tigerlass]

Some babies turn out ok, some dont and I think that is down to pure luck tbh! Which is why I personally would never risk it, not even a sip!
Its not worth the risk IMO and my baby is far more important to me to risk harming in ANYWAY just for the case of a drop of alcohol....

 

[bcage]

Im just reposting the vid and comment from another thread.

We have no proof that that it isnt the effect of alcohol.....i wasnt trying to scaremonger anyone.

Just to get people to look into it and think about it more seriously.

so because someone doesn't agree with your point of view, then they aren't taking the matter seriously?

this thread reminds me of why i shouldn't be on these forums. *sigh*

The OP asked for opinions, and i gave mine. i said 'more' seriously. Just because i dont agree with your point of view doesnt mean you have to keep singling me out.

I happen to be very passionate on this subject. If you dont think you have anything to worry about then you dont need to take offence at my posts .

clearly you're very passionate. and if you don't see any difference to your postings to the other ladies here then perhaps your passion is somewhat blindsighting.

 

[anna matronic]

For those that do like a beer, Becks Blue is fab (non alcoholic Becks)

This debate will always get heated, I think I was involved in one maybe not even 2 weeks ago

It is of course a very sensitive subject where everyone os going to have their own opinions. We as grown adults should respect that. We as grown adults should also not patronise and talk down to others just because we disagree.

Just because I have made the choice to have half a shandy at a party or a small glass of wine at a wedding DOES NOT mean that I do not love, care or respect my child any less than anyone else on this forum. I would have very little respect for anyone that would dare suggest that either. Not that anyone has, but people like to attempt to take the moral high ground and their really is no need.

 

[Dragonfly]

Im just reposting the vid and comment from another thread.

We have no proof that that it isnt the effect of alcohol.....i wasnt trying to scaremonger anyone.

Just to get people to look into it and think about it more seriously.

so because someone doesn't agree with your point of view, then they aren't taking the matter seriously?

this thread reminds me of why i shouldn't be on these forums. *sigh*

The OP asked for opinions, and i gave mine. i said 'more' seriously. Just because i dont agree with your point of view doesnt mean you have to keep singling me out.

I happen to be very passionate on this subject. If you dont think you have anything to worry about then you dont need to take offence at my posts .

clearly you're very passionate. and if you don't see any difference to your postings to the other ladies here then perhaps your passion is somewhat blindsighting.

Take it you never seen a baby with feotil alcohol syndrome then.

 

[ShanandBoc]

Im just reposting the vid and comment from another thread.

We have no proof that that it isnt the effect of alcohol.....i wasnt trying to scaremonger anyone.

Just to get people to look into it and think about it more seriously.

so because someone doesn't agree with your point of view, then they aren't taking the matter seriously?

this thread reminds me of why i shouldn't be on these forums. *sigh*

The OP asked for opinions, and i gave mine. i said 'more' seriously. Just because i dont agree with your point of view doesnt mean you have to keep singling me out.

I happen to be very passionate on this subject. If you dont think you have anything to worry about then you dont need to take offence at my posts .

clearly you're very passionate. and if you don't see any difference to your postings to the other ladies here then perhaps your passion is somewhat blindsighting.

I could say the same for your passion towards wanting to drink and that you feel the need to be patronising to those who dont agree!

I have discussed facts and my opinion. No different to anyone else. I dont know why you have such a problem with that? Fair enough the vid is controversial but i was only reposting from another thread.....

We are discussing alcohol and unborn babies, wth is wrong with being passionate about that??

 

[bcage]

i'm always very respectful of other peoples opinions on forums and am a little surprised when the same respect isn't forthcoming.

best of luck with your pregnancies ladies, but i just can't be partial to this kind of conversation. ironically, it's not good for our babies

 

[lozzy21]

Im 25 weeks and havent touched a drop.

Iv worked with a lady who as the result of F.A.S had a learning disability, her mother swares she never drank more than the recomended amount of alcohol during her pregnancy.

The truth is we dont know how much is safe so why risk it. We avoid certain foods incase it harms our babys so why is alcohol any different?

 

[elephant29]

Drinking alcohol during pregnancy is like almost everything else. People will argue for and against it till they are blue in the face but it will always be a personal choice you make so the decision is yours.

Personally I dont agree when people say 'would you give your baby alcohol in their formula' etc. No of course I wouldnt but then again I wouldnt give my baby vimto or diet irn bru either and I drink these things during pregnancy. Everything we eat or drink is passed onto our babies in the smallest portions and not all of it would be good for a newborn baby.

The only thing I would sugest is trying to avoid it during 1st tri if possible as this is when your baby is growing and developin most.

xxx

 

[miss h]

For those that do like a beer, Becks Blue is fab (non alcoholic Becks)

This debate will always get heated, I think I was involved in one maybe not even 2 weeks ago

It is of course a very sensitive subject where everyone os going to have their own opinions. We as grown adults should respect that. We as grown adults should also not patronise and talk down to others just because we disagree.

Just because I have made the choice to have half a shandy at a party or a small glass of wine at a wedding DOES NOT mean that I do not love, care or respect my child any less than anyone else on this forum. I would have very little respect for anyone that would dare suggest that either. Not that anyone has, but people like to attempt to take the moral high ground and their really is no need.

Think we all need to take a note from anna-matronic. It is a highly emotive subject and we have to be aware of a holier-than-now attitude that COULD come across in the postings on this subject. Take a breath everyone!

Millions of medical and psychological studies have been conducted on this issue each one supporting different set of results. I studied FAS as part of my degree; it has been found to be almost always developed after chronic heavy drinking. So mothers of children with this disorder who claim to have stuck to a reasonable amount of alcohol are either in the small exception OR are underestimating their consumption. I felt that important to state - One or two glasses of wine will not mean you baby will develop learning disabilities.

Anna: Is becks blue really that good? I have had a bit of a hankering for a beer!

 

[mummy2be123]

I wouldnt drink while pregnant no its not worth it i can make up for it next year when hes here =]

 

[anna matronic]

For those that do like a beer, Becks Blue is fab (non alcoholic Becks)

This debate will always get heated, I think I was involved in one maybe not even 2 weeks ago

It is of course a very sensitive subject where everyone os going to have their own opinions. We as grown adults should respect that. We as grown adults should also not patronise and talk down to others just because we disagree.

Just because I have made the choice to have half a shandy at a party or a small glass of wine at a wedding DOES NOT mean that I do not love, care or respect my child any less than anyone else on this forum. I would have very little respect for anyone that would dare suggest that either. Not that anyone has, but people like to attempt to take the moral high ground and their really is no need.

Think we all need to take a note from anna-matronic. It is a highly emotive subject and we have to be aware of a holier-than-now attitude that COULD come across in the postings on this subject. Take a breath everyone!

Millions of medical and psychological studies have been conducted on this issue each one supporting different set of results. I studied FAS as part of my degree; it has been found to be almost always developed after chronic heavy drinking. So mothers of children with this disorder who claim to have stuck to a reasonable amount of alcohol are either in the small exception OR are underestimating their consumption. I felt that important to state - One or two glasses of wine will not mean you baby will develop learning disabilities.

Anna: Is becks blue really that good? I have had a bit of a hankering for a beer!

I am not a massive fan of normal Becks to be honest! But it is the only non alcoholic lager that I have drunk that does taste normal and doesn't have a horrid tang or anything. Give it a go I also sometimes put it in a pint glass and add lemonade to it for a shandy, it is really nice and refreshing then

 

[elephant29]

I've had becks blue all through my pregnancy and it's lovely! I really can't taste the difference that much and my OH even commented that it was nice!

xxx

 

[emilyjade]

My midwife said its advised no alcohol. it don't bother me because i rarely drink x

 

[miss h]

ooh how exciting - I'm gonna try a becks blue - they sell it at our local pub too so I can feel like one of the gang now!!!

 

[BrandiCanucks]

We just went through this two weeks ago in this exact forum too. When it all comes down to it, it really is up to the mother, however, she needs to make the decision based on how much she wants to risk FAS or FAE (Fetal Alcohol Effects). FAS results from excessive drinking throughout pregnancy, FAE results from small drinks here and there and may present only as a supposed simple learning disorder, such as dyslexia or in mathematics. FAE is present at birth but does not show effects until later in the child's life.

As a Developmental Service Worker, someone who works with children and adults with disabilities, and a parent of a special needs child, I, personally, would advise against it. Since doctors and scientists cannot pinpoint a safe amount of alcohol, for many reasons, it is probably better that if you know exactly what will prevent FAS/FAE or any disabilities (avoiding alcohol), surely a mother can hold out on alcohol for 40 weeks or less to ensure the safety and health of her baby.

The reason why doctors and scientists cannot pinpoint a safe amount of alcohol is because each woman, pregnant or not, have different weights, body sizes and shapes, etc, and carry different absorption rates. This is why a mother who drinks excessively throughout her pregnancy could have a perfectly healthy baby compared to a mother who had just one drink giving birth to a baby with FAE/FAS. If the mother with the FAE/FAS baby has a slower absorption rate than the mother who drank heavily, it means more of the alcohol is making it to her baby through the placenta. Does that make sense?

It's not just my motherly opinion, but also my professional one, as just last week, I met a little girl with FAS (I'll be working with her every Friday until February, then 5 days a week from February and beyond) and I have seen her struggles. It is so not worth it if you can avoid it.

It's only 40 weeks. Have a celebratory drink the day the baby is born.

 

[babybear75]

texco's also do a non alcohol beer called bavaria (i think its german) and a alcohol free pear cider which is very nice! very refreshing. . . .i have no idea of the caffeine amount but i don't have a lot. . . .but as we know diet coke does have caffeine which is one of the other choices.... . .maybe we should all drink water!!!

Mum-in-law told me that when she was pregnant she was told to drink stout i know it was 35 years ago and i know we know so much more about the dangers now. . . .but how many kids were born in these years when this was the advise and are ok??? - debate -

 

[babybear75]

i should add - (before i'm hurted down and hurt!) - that i'm not drinking alcohol myself but wanted to add another thought to the debate

 

[HippyMumma23]

Im sorry, but LOL at the baby 'jumping' because the mother had a glass of wine. This baby has hiccups! Mine used to get it all the time, lots of babies do when they are still in the tummy.

Silly example.