TTC#2 and SO EXCITED! join me

[Hann12]

I know Jessica I've been waiting for some updates! I hope something is happening!
IssacRalph - your chart is looking fantastic!! Any symtoms?

Hey girls yeah plenty of symptoms which I take no notice of as I get them every month, fatigue, sore boobs & nausea mainly & lots of creamy cm! Had my cd21 bloods today & progesterone is a massive 75 so that might explain my bad pms symptoms every month? Last one few years ago was 78 on a non pregnant cycle so not holding my breath! Really not sure why we're not getting our bfp? hoping you guys are good & bubs ok x

holy cow!!! my progesterone was a 12.5 at 6 weeks! no wonder this pregnancy didnt make it... I hope and pray this is it for you! your chart seriously looks awesome!

Runnergrl I think in the uk we measure it in a different unit so it's not as high as it sounds compared to your number. It is high don't get me wrong but I have a feeling here they say that a figure of 30 is equivalent to your 12.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Yeah thanks girls, well its certain I defiantly ovulated, he he! Not sure why I pump out the progesterone so much? I think they Like it to be 35 and above in the UK here runnergrl, I Defo think its measured in different units here! Like I said of course I'm hoping for my bfp but I don't think this result has any significance. Have had a decreased appetite which is slightly not like me during tww but there is plenty of it left. Not planning on testing until AF due or I get more concrete symptoms. Have a fab day at chessington han sounds fab, i'm sure with all that excitement you'll not miss your nap but you may promptly collapse when you step in the door, bless you!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Haven't had dh sperm results yet but its been 3 weeks if not more & not heard anything! I would've thought if they were bad they would've contacted us? I mean his sperm count was 320 million per square ml few years ago she actually said it was the best one she's seen in a long time, so not sure if it cam get that bad in 2 years? We are technically super fertile with no bfp so frustrating

 

[runnergrl]

Haven't had dh sperm results yet but its been 3 weeks if not more & not heard anything! I would've thought if they were bad they would've contacted us? I mean his sperm count was 320 million per square ml few years ago she actually said it was the best one she's seen in a long time, so not sure if it cam get that bad in 2 years? We are technically super fertile with no bfp so frustrating

forgive me for not knowing this answer, but how long have you been TTC #2?

how long did it take to conceive #1?

 

[IsaacRalph]

Haven't had dh sperm results yet but its been 3 weeks if not more & not heard anything! I would've thought if they were bad they would've contacted us? I mean his sperm count was 320 million per square ml few years ago she actually said it was the best one she's seen in a long time, so not sure if it cam get that bad in 2 years? We are technically super fertile with no bfp so frustrating

forgive me for not knowing this answer, but how long have you been TTC #2?

how long did it take to conceive #1?

Not ages I know, this is cycle 8 ttc #2 but had several months ntnp beforehand! With ds we tried almost 1yr then we lost that pregnancy then we got our bfp on the 5th cycle after that about 6-7 months in time as my cycles were longer back then! Had few rounds of clomid after mc but that didn't work, then got bfp on the first natural cycle after

 

[HappyCpl]

Hey ladies, I've been reading and trying to keep up. Praying something happens soon for us all.

Still haven't POAS and surprisingly, I haven't wanted to. I know I'm near OV as I'm having tons of CM. Not sweating it though. It feels nice to just chill. DD told me yesterday I was going to have two babies. She's 3... I have no idea why she thinks that. But she does. She keeps talking about when I have two babies she will help me do this and that. Wouldn't that be a miracle? I'm leaving it in God's hands. Maybe that's why this cycle I've been more at peace.

I've been praying for all of us. I hope everyone is doing well.

 

[banana07]

Hey girls. Sorry I haven't been on but I have been reading!

Elt - omg can't believe this is still going on for you fx crossed for you x

Issacralph - hope you don't wind yourself up to much with symptom spotting but I know thats just the pot and the kettle - I drove myself nuts last month.

Runnergirl, I'm glad you got a second opinion - fx crossed for you as the girls said, go for it when you feel its right not when they say so. How did people manage and cope and know when to start again before all this medical intervention and advise?? - Do what you and your body tells you

Mamamac - all sounds good for you so far fx x

Happycpl, think I'm pretty much in the same boat as you took the last BFN pretty hard, this my first time on since AF arrived a week ago (instead of my usual daily updates). No intention of POAS this month - feel like I have given up already. Its hard tho I will know when I'm Ov its always bang on CD19 so I still know deep down I'll be bd more at that time but def going to relax it this month. I also wonder usually I start going mad at it about CD 15/16 and up to the day or so after O - I wonder if the quality of DH sperm is lower by the time O actually occurs? There is def less of it in the last day or so then the first day or so when TMI Warning.... it is literally flowing out of me after???

I dunno just going to take a back seat this month (although I did that the month before last and no joy either). Oh had my day 3 bloods taken last week. She told me to come back on CD21 which is a Saturday so to actually come in on CD20 is the Friday but I only O on CD19 so she said come CD20 & CD 26 which seems fair enough. No idea what a normal level is but I'm sure she will tell me. Doc also said it is very early days yet only been through 3 proper cycles but as I said I pay €60 a week (yes every week) into what I meant to be the best medical in Europe so I demanded the tests and a scan next month if I don't get my BFP - he said there was no point having the scan yet if the bloods come back ok but said he'll send me private if I really want (Which I do) - after that next step would be DHs sperm test but fx it doesn't go that far.

 

[Hann12]

Runnergrl - I checked and in the us they like to see progesterone levels at 10ng + which is 30nmol here. Isaacralphs is equivalent to 24ng. As a 21 day blood 10+ is good but as the pregnancy progresses progesterone should increase a lot - not sure by how much. I'm taking additional progesterone this time to be on the safe side until 12 weeks. Might be worth asking about getting your levels checked when you get your bfp again just to be safe

 

[runnergrl]

Runnergrl - I checked and in the us they like to see progesterone levels at 10ng + which is 30nmol here. Isaacralphs is equivalent to 24ng. As a 21 day blood 10+ is good but as the pregnancy progresses progesterone should increase a lot - not sure by how much. I'm taking additional progesterone this time to be on the safe side until 12 weeks. Might be worth asking about getting your levels checked when you get your bfp again just to be safe

Oh I will for sure. I will be getting on progesterone from 10dpo every month we try. If I test bfn by 14dpo-ill stop the progesterone so AF will come. No harm, no foul

 

[elt1013]

Sorry I have been so quiet lately ladies...just been working alot to keep myself busy and make some extra $.

Happy- nice to hear from you and glad you are doing well and relaxing as much as possible.

Hann- have a good time out with the fam!

Isaac- Like the others said, your chart is looking great...lets keep those temps up!

Jessica- It is great that you are still checking this everyday. Thanks for still rooting for us all!

banana- I agree that there seems to be much less "stuff" the more often you bd, lol. I am thinking that I am going to try to bd every other day around O next time (whenever that may be).

runnergrl- progesterone is probably a good idea just to be safe next time! Keeping my fx for you that next time will come very soon for you and everything will go perfectly!

AFM- still no change for me other than a drop in temp this morning to pre O range, which I think is good news! Hoping AF comes on her own and I can maybe cancel my appointment? Isaac, since you have experience with this, If AF starts on her own, does that pretty much mean that the cyst (if that is what I have) has resolved on its own? My gosh, I hope so! I just want to get onto the next cycle! I know I am still young (going to be 28 on October 13), but I feel like I am losing valuable time here. I am just glad that this is out of the ordinary for me and I usually have very regular cycles. I am very lucky that way!

 

[Jessicabaxter]

Hey girls. Sorry I haven't been on but I have been reading!

Elt - omg can't believe this is still going on for you fx crossed for you x

Issacralph - hope you don't wind yourself up to much with symptom spotting but I know thats just the pot and the kettle - I drove myself nuts last month.

Runnergirl, I'm glad you got a second opinion - fx crossed for you as the girls said, go for it when you feel its right not when they say so. How did people manage and cope and know when to start again before all this medical intervention and advise?? - Do what you and your body tells you

Mamamac - all sounds good for you so far fx x

Happycpl, think I'm pretty much in the same boat as you took the last BFN pretty hard, this my first time on since AF arrived a week ago (instead of my usual daily updates). No intention of POAS this month - feel like I have given up already. Its hard tho I will know when I'm Ov its always bang on CD19 so I still know deep down I'll be bd more at that time but def going to relax it this month. I also wonder usually I start going mad at it about CD 15/16 and up to the day or so after O - I wonder if the quality of DH sperm is lower by the time O actually occurs? There is def less of it in the last day or so then the first day or so when TMI Warning.... it is literally flowing out of me after???

I dunno just going to take a back seat this month (although I did that the month before last and no joy either). Oh had my day 3 bloods taken last week. She told me to come back on CD21 which is a Saturday so to actually come in on CD20 is the Friday but I only O on CD19 so she said come CD20 & CD 26 which seems fair enough. No idea what a normal level is but I'm sure she will tell me. Doc also said it is very early days yet only been through 3 proper cycles but as I said I pay €60 a week (yes every week) into what I meant to be the best medical in Europe so I demanded the tests and a scan next month if I don't get my BFP - he said there was no point having the scan yet if the bloods come back ok but said he'll send me private if I really want (Which I do) - after that next step would be DHs sperm test but fx it doesn't go that far.

Ok so I did a lil ( ok alot) of reading and asked my doc about this same thing cpl months ago. Having sex alot even everyday does not mean a mans sperm count lowers. A " normal male sends about 40 million sperm swimming with each load lol some say a man needs 24 hrs to replenish his swimmers others say none at all but the one thing everybody seems to agree on is if ur tryin to conceive having sex every other day is the best way "O" or not. Some even say the more sex u have the better because his swimmers will automatically try to keep up ( kind of like breast feeding ur body produces what ur baby needs and it's pattern). I found this all very interesting and u may know this just wanted to share !

 

[Hann12]

That is interesting Jessica. I read quite a lot too, I have a feeling it's dependant on the man and his sperm count. It could be worth trying every other day though as it could make the difference for you.

 

[Hann12]

Sorry in advance for the moan, not sure if I told you but I had this NCT 'friend' that I fell out with because she made me a cake for my mums birthday and said she'd charge ingredients then asked me for £70 for a victoria sponge. Last time I saw her before that I had been telling her how I was going to struggle TTC because of my low progesterone etc. She was very sympathetic and tried to give me advice as her sister had a progestrone problem anyway she also said they were thinking of ttc too, which is nice. Anyway then the cake thing kicked off and we didn't speak for about 7 weeks. I then got a text out of the blue from her (I was 5 weeks preg at this point) and over a couple of weeks she asked to meet up but was very specific how she wanted it to be this week and ideally mid week onwards. We arranged it for Mon next week. I then got a text from her today sending me a scan photo saying she is due in the middle of April and is very excited and super happy. I am genuinely happy for her, I'd never not be. However the last time I saw her we were talking about how I was having problems ttc, then we had all the ignoring thing and then this. I first thought that maybe she was being nice and telling me before I read it on FB but she hasn't actually posted anything on there. So now I reckon that she has told me to try and rub my face in it because she thinks I am having problems and shes just extending the whole argument thing that we were having in a different way. Otherwise why wouldn't she just wait until she saw me on Monday to tell me nicely in person because for all she knows I could be really upset by her news. Obviously I'm not but she doesn't know whats been going on with me. I don't know I might be reading more into it than there is but it seems a little too coincidental that we had the argument and then next time she chooses to try and see me is the point where she can announce she's 12 weeks pregnant.
I would never be upset if a friend got pregnant even if I was still trying but I can't help but think that its what she's hoping for!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Sorry in advance for the moan, not sure if I told you but I had this NCT 'friend' that I fell out with because she made me a cake for my mums birthday and said she'd charge ingredients then asked me for £70 for a victoria sponge. Last time I saw her before that I had been telling her how I was going to struggle TTC because of my low progesterone etc. She was very sympathetic and tried to give me advice as her sister had a progestrone problem anyway she also said they were thinking of ttc too, which is nice. Anyway then the cake thing kicked off and we didn't speak for about 7 weeks. I then got a text out of the blue from her (I was 5 weeks preg at this point) and over a couple of weeks she asked to meet up but was very specific how she wanted it to be this week and ideally mid week onwards. We arranged it for Mon next week. I then got a text from her today sending me a scan photo saying she is due in the middle of April and is very excited and super happy. I am genuinely happy for her, I'd never not be. However the last time I saw her we were talking about how I was having problems ttc, then we had all the ignoring thing and then this. I first thought that maybe she was being nice and telling me before I read it on FB but she hasn't actually posted anything on there. So now I reckon that she has told me to try and rub my face in it because she thinks I am having problems and shes just extending the whole argument thing that we were having in a different way. Otherwise why wouldn't she just wait until she saw me on Monday to tell me nicely in person because for all she knows I could be really upset by her news. Obviously I'm not but she doesn't know whats been going on with me. I don't know I might be reading more into it than there is but it seems a little too coincidental that we had the argument and then next time she chooses to try and see me is the point where she can announce she's 12 weeks pregnant.
I would never be upset if a friend got pregnant even if I was still trying but I can't help but think that its what she's hoping for!

Aww han try not to be upset by your friend women work in mysterious ways! Did you say she knows your preggers? If not then she sounds like she's being very insensitive towards you! I'm like you always happy for people sometimes Feel a pang of jealousy but I want my baby not anybody elses so its fine! What are you going to do?
At work so will reply to all you other girls tommorow but had more good news today dh SA was even better than few years ago 429 million little fellas, wow! Spike to my fertility nurse and she offered me tubal patency scan next week but due on few days before so hopefully I can have one on the 15th Nov before next AF is due, its all booked in! Happy days just need my bfp now!

 

[Hann12]

No she doesn't know about me which is why I think she's doing it to be hurtful, but obv I don't care! It's fairly obvious what she's doing as we literally haven't been in contact for over 2 months then this!

That's amazing news about the scan and your husbands results - bet he thinks he's the man now lol! I bet you get you bfp now that you have the scan booked in! Always the way - hope so anyway!!

 

[IsaacRalph]

No she doesn't know about me which is why I think she's doing it to be hurtful, but obv I don't care! It's fairly obvious what she's doing as we literally haven't been in contact for over 2 months then this!

That's amazing news about the scan and your husbands results - bet he thinks he's the man now lol! I bet you get you bfp now that you have the scan booked in! Always the way - hope so anyway!!

Well it probably sounds that way unless she hasn't told you so far to spare your feelings, & thought she'd yell you before you meet so its not awkward! And bloody hell £70 for a vicky sponge, what a crock of s...!

 

[Hann12]

Well maybe except that we literally haven't been talking because of this argument so it's come out of nowhere for her to contact me. Funnily enough my last text I sent her was something about how I hope she feels better soon (as she said she was really sick) and she just responded that she is very happy, they were both in a bit of shock because it happened immediately but they are thrilled' - if she was trying to save my feelings I doubt she would say how fast it was!! Think she's just trying to be mean but I can have the last laugh as I don't care!!

 

[runnergrl]

Hann-well wont it be nice to give her your news? IMO, you are much more mature than she is, so now you can basically say "I'm pregnant too, SO THERE!" I hate when girls are petty and do things out of spite or maliciously.. I dont get it!
When did you start your progesterone? before your BFP or right after? Im trying to decide what I want to do since my level was borderline with Ella.. I dont want to take it if I dont need to, but I hear it doesnt hurt to take if your levels are normal. Is this true? Also, if i start it as soon as i get a BFP, wont I HAVE to take it till 12 weeks at least? sorry so many questions, Im just super curious..

Isaac- it is sod's law that you would get your BFP right before you have these tests done.. I would totally be all in with hope and even expectations!

 

[Hann12]

Hann-well wont it be nice to give her your news? IMO, you are much more mature than she is, so now you can basically say "I'm pregnant too, SO THERE!" I hate when girls are petty and do things out of spite or maliciously.. I dont get it!
When did you start your progesterone? before your BFP or right after? Im trying to decide what I want to do since my level was borderline with Ella.. I dont want to take it if I dont need to, but I hear it doesnt hurt to take if your levels are normal. Is this true? Also, if i start it as soon as i get a BFP, wont I HAVE to take it till 12 weeks at least? sorry so many questions, Im just super curious..

Isaac- it is sod's law that you would get your BFP right before you have these tests done.. I would totally be all in with hope and even expectations!

Lol runnergrl but yes I will be feeling like doing that to her! Funny though because if she had text me saying that she knows I'm trying but wanted to let me know personally etc then I would have known it was genuine and not trying to be malicious but I'm sure its not like that and she's just trying to upset me. Hasn't worked though!

As for the progesterone, basically my LP was really short - 9 days, and I was told it was because my body wasn't producing progesterone because it was still adjusting from stopping breast feeding and that I may have PCOS. Anyway the PCOS has been dispproved so it was the breast feeding, however they said that i would just start producing progesterone again in normal amounts and it would naturally correct itself. But the month of my BFP I used a natural progesterone cream and suddenly my levels more than tripled (they were 10 and they went up to 38). It could be a complete coincidence that it happened the month I used the cream. I asked the fertility consultant and GP and they both said it was a coincidence and that the cream couldn't have done it and that my body just adapted that month. However it seems quite to coincidence! Anyway I was still worried about progesterone levels so the fertility consultant just gave me cyclogest to take - 2x 200mg per day. I have no idea if I would have had a problem he seemed to think I wouldn't but gave it to me anyway because it does no harm having the extra amount. I think that progesterone levels get enormous as the pregnancy progresses so there is no harm taking extra at the start. I think somewhere around 8-10 weeks the placenta takes over from the ovary and produces the hormones so many people stop taking progesterone by 10 weeks but I have enough to take to 12 weeks. I'm looking forward to stopping it though, its not very nice and I am always scared I'll forget! Sorry for the essay - its very much something I'm interested by!!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Yeah han you'll have the last laughs though hun! Like I said anyone who can charge a good friend £70 for a sponde has got to be weird! Just throw it in their after she's done all her talking/bragging, he he!