Ttc number 3 :)

[spunky84]

I'm out. Temp plummeted to 96.69 (old) / 97.11 (new) AF hadn't started yet, but CP is definitely lower, so it'll definitely be today.

Not really sure what DH is wanting to do now after the other day, so not sure if we're trying again or if i start nuva ring today.

 

[spunky84]

DH said we can keep trying, and isn't limiting us to just next cycle. Now how long he agrees to that, I don't know, but I'm going to take it for what it is.

I recorded my temp as 97.11 on my chart from the new thermometer as I'm making the switch now. I put an order in on Amazon for ovaboost and fertile cm. I did one day shipping so I can get started on them tomorrow.

I feel like I learned more about my body this cycle though. I'm on a good temping schedule. I'm starting to get more sleep. Hopefully I'll be de-stressing soon. I feel like once I make it to Thanksgiving break it'll be a little easier as I'm in a major time crunch right now. I do think O was CD 40 (13 day LP). That kind of bums me out though because the timing would've been right, but probably not everything else (cm, etc). I'm trying to look at it, too, as maybe my uterus wasn't really optimal yet with just having the IUD recently removed. Plus I think my hormones are still just out of whack -- besides the long cycle, but my LP temps were pretty wonky.

So, I'm going to do everything I can to try and get the other things in place.

I'm debating on whether to just do regular opks again or if I'm going to get the CB fertility monitor which I've heard is better if irregular, but I don't know since I'd still have to buy the sticks. I also think I could still spend a fortune on IC opks (but definitely am not starting on CD 5 again lol).

I'm trying to research to see if the monitor sticks work in the advanced digital. I doubt it. That'd be too easy. I'm just trying to think of what would be best money wise. I hate trying to decipher the IC. Unless I start the IC further down the road and once it looks like I may start to be reaching O, switch to the advance digital opk and just suck it up with spending the money and hope I'm on track and not have to use a million of them.

Aaaand since I only have an observation day tomorrow, I am absolutely 100% going to have a couple of drinks tonight and relax and maybe binge watch some netflix (I won't be home until late anyway).

 

[cnsweeney]

Im out . got me .
But I actually said 'yes!' to myself . Lol. I knew I wasn't pregnant and got tired of my whacky chart this month and af confirmed that I at least most likely did in fact ovulate . That gave me a 12 day lp this month though .. is that okay ?
I'm excited to try again and start temping again . Gonna try to set an alarm to do temp same time every morning . & gonna go get some vitamins today or tmw that DONT contain b6! & maybe some potassium .. trying to give out sway an even better shot this month . If we aren't successful this month we will probably skip December . Dd2 was conceived in December and we are trying TJ avoid two September birthdays . Lol . I didn't even really want two birthdays a month apart but can't be too picky I guess ! Lol
For those that are out, I'm going to start a December testing thread will post the link here in a moment

 

[cnsweeney]

Spunky - I knew you O'd cd40! Lol . So happy for you though that dh is willing to try another month or more without the stress of putting a time limit on things !
Katy - babydust to you !

 

[cnsweeney]

Katy - Oh no a 7 day AF is so not awesome fingers crossed for you this month.

CNS I am in the south island of New Zealand and the epicentre of the quake was very close to us. We are still getting aftershocks I like your optimism. Already preparing and thinking just in case of what to do next cycle. i feel like i've been making these small steps that are making me healthier and healthier. DH was asking when I would start getting tested as to why we can't make a baby. i said to him we need to have sex at the right time first (not take over a week off over the fertile period :-/)

You still have a chance spunky. It must be so so hard not knowing what your cycles are doing in the first place. Have you tried traditional Chinese herbs? Sometimes they can work wonders with cycle length.

Well I am glad you are all okay New Zealand ! I'm jealous! Lol . I agree that you should have more than one attempt in your fertile period before assuming you have any issues your chart looks great!

 

[cnsweeney]

Here's the December thread ladies -
https://babyandbump.momtastic.com/ttc-groups/2417585-december-testers.html#post37910919

 

[spunky84]

Katy: How long does AF usually last? That definitely sounds frustrating. Good luck with the opks!

Gypsy: What kind of Chinese herbs? I had got Vitex, maca root, and a supplement with myo-something or other (lol). I was rubbish at taking everything. I'm going to give it a good go this month with them. I have fertile cm and ovaboost coming tomorrow. The ovaboost has the same amount of the myo stuff. I'll be running out of the other soonish, but it's a bit of a pain (you put it in your drink) with how they have it packaged so end up spilling some most of the time. I'm hoping to find a chance to research here soon for anything else that could possibly help. Though I know these could take awhile to help.

How are you doing?

cns: I couldn't help myself with the tests lol I was so bummed when I realized the Equate was blue dye. The boxed showed a picture of a test with pink dye, so I thought it was different since there was another box that showed a test with blue dye.

I'm glad that you're feeling about positive about AF showing. I wish I could share the same lol Have you ever had wonky cycles like that before? I think a 12 day LP is good! I think it's when it's less than 10 that it's an issue. Hopefully things will be better this month!

I really think DH not putting a time limit will help with the stress of it. I mean, I really don't know how I'll feel or be, but I'm hoping I can relax a little about things. I would say we could NTNP, but that'd be pretty much nothing as we otherwise DTD so rarely lol

I totally get what you mean, though, about the timing with the birthdays! DD was born August 30. We didn't plan for DS, got pregnant mid-December and was born Sept 8 (I really thought he was going to be born within a couple of days of DD's birthday as I had to get a bpp done and if he wasn't looking well, they were going to deliver him).

I was really hoping for this cycle because 1) I O'd so late that we wouldn't have a June baby (we know entirely way too many people with June birthdays). If by some miracle we are successful this cycle, this one will be due right around DD's and DS's brithdays. I can't imagine 3 birthdays within a 9 day span lol but I 'd still take it.

Unfortunately I'm sure I won't be part of the December testers. With my cycles being so long, I'm guessing I'll be a January tester. Unless I end up Oing much sooner. FF has my estimated O days from Dec 12 - 18 (DS was conceived Dec 18... but if we're success, regardless when, I'll be having a csection probably around 39 weeks... so if that happens.... this cycle...).


AFM, AF decided to take her time and wait until this evening to start. I can't totally complain as I didn't have to deal with it during clinical. I just cramped a bit on and off, but nothing major. Technically she's not even full flow yet and is only at spotting right now (bright pink / orangish / not AF red yet), so I guess I technically won't be able to count CD 1 until tomorrow. I already put it in FF, but will probably have to change it as I expected more by this point.

 

[Gypsy99]

Spunky. If you research herbalists in your area sometimes they can use certain herbs to target whatever you are needing it for. I've know of people when I was living in Australia that would have TCM herbal teas and acupuncture and it helped with their fertility.

I'm fine today thanks, y boobs have been quite sensitive this cycle (which can mean anything so no over analysing!!). The aftershocks have calmed down, but there are a lot of people stranded in Kaikoura as there were landslides on each side of the roads / exits. it sucks it's one of my most favourite places in NZ and it's had to go through such a big quake

I'm happy you are in for another cycle. It's amazing how much our bodies listen to us when we are stressed

CNS - it is a nice place here in NZ, but it's cold where I am all the time. Well compared to Australia it is LOL.

Good luck this cycle!!!!

 

[Katy78]

I'm sorry AF came, spunky and cnsweeney. Great that your DH extended your TTC spunky. Good luck this cycle!

My AF usually lasts anywhere from 4 days up to 6 days. But it's weak the last couple of days. This time it was steady, not too messy but red till the end. Well, it's over now and I'm hopeful again.
Starting OPKs today, on CD 11. I already feel my ovaries. I sure hope femara did the trick.
I have a feeling O Will be early this month so I might be testing still in November.

Oh, there already is a December thread. I'll join yours anyway.

 

[spunky84]

Gypsy: I'll have to look into it! I probably won't get a chance to look into until later next week (or at least here and there over the next week). I'm honestly looking forward to a mini break! (only a couple of days lol)

When are you testing? I still think it sounds promising

Katy: How'd the opk go today? I really hope this is your month!


AFM, old therm temp up a little (but still below coverline). New therm temp 97.01. AF officially started this morning, so from here on out I'm going to do the new only and put the old away.

I'm anticipating another fabulous cycle

AF still light (but definitely AF). When I check CP, I usually always check (even during my cycle, but in the shower). I wasn't going to bother until AF was about done or done just because it I just want a break from checking an analyzing everything 24/7. Definitely not doing opks for awhile (just not sure when to start since I have no idea what this cycle will do).

But I did end up checking just a bit ago because it's all just weird right now. CP is always low, firm, and slightly open during (no cm/dry) and pretty much central. When I checked it was medium, soft, slightly open and anterior facing. Who knows.

I'm guessing my hormones are really screwed up, so I'm not optimistic about this cycle, unless my hormones are kind of out of whack trying to go from messed up to normal??

Totally tmi.... I have like copious amounts of what seems like ewcm. I was honestly like "wtf" which is what prompted the CP check. Like seriously copious amounts. I can't remember seeing that amount in a very long time.

So no idea. I've heard it could be abnormally high levels of estrogen when it should be low.

Other than that, started vitex, maca root, vitamin, and folic axid today. Still waiting for my fertile cm and ovaboost to arrive (supposed to today).

Eta: fertile cm and ovaboost arrived, so took that too.

 

[cnsweeney]

Spunky - my cycles aren't usually weird like that but after speaking to a coach on genderdreaming she really thinks it's because of my bad cold the beginning of my cycle . My lp is usually 13/14 days so not only was O delayed but lp was shortened . But I have a good feeling this time ! Praying hard !
I also learned that the baking soda I was using to sway and be more alkaline can actually prevent conception so I won't be doing that this time and instead will be using a little preseed since it is a neutral ph and I am acidic .
Please still feel free to join the December thread !
Really have my hopes up for us this month

 

[spunky84]

cns: That's great that you were able to get some insight to your cycle! So the pre-seed should work well enough to lower your pH? I can't remember if you said before, but how do you know you're acidic? Is there a way you can test that? Sorry if you already mentioned that!

Hopefully things will go better this month for you!


I do think I will join in the December one. I'm really hoping this cycles shortens up a bit. This last one was 1 day shorter (yahoo). I ordered some soy isoflavone (or something like that). They should be here Thursday.

I'm honestly wondering if I've screwed up my cycle myself. While I wasn't charting, I still noted my cycles, so I know my cycle lengths from March (when I first got the IUD in).

I honestly think I've done it to myself as I noticed a trend (we're all about looking for trends in school ). I was in the middle of my second semester when I got the IUD in. That was a 40 day cycle. That's really not bad for it being off, but I was stressed and not sleeping well because of school.

Next cycle started beginning of May - right around finals. I had a couple of weeks off, but then my 10 week, 13 credit hour summer semester started. It was intense and I pretty much averaged 2-3 hours the whole semester except for maybe a 6-8 hr sleep on Saturdays. That cycle went to 46 days. New cycle started right around the time my 6 week class ended (so a little pressure off), but still sleeping about the same and still quite stressed.

Went down to a 41 day cycle. New cycle started like a day or 2 after my last final.

I had 3 weeks off, but those were still pretty stressful, still with a lack of sleep. Started fall semester mid-late August (IUD out at the end of the month). Very stressed and overwhelmed. Like 10 times worse than summer. Still averaging around 3-4 hours of sleep a night, including weekends. Some nights during the week I didn't go to bed at all or only napped for an hour before getting up and going (and it was crazy with appointments for the kids).

55 day cycle. Started getting sick at the beginning of Sept. It really never went away. Kind of came and went, but it was never really gone. Second of half this semester I had another class starting which put me up to 16 credit hours long with other classes that have much more difficult content. Then got sicker. Plus the stress of ttc.

Finally just crashed and burned. Got myself to the doctor, got my ears cleared up, and getting more sleep now (tonight is the exception lol as I had way too much to do for tomorrow/today). I'm not getting as much sleep as I'd like, but it's more than I've been getting. Once I decided to kind of slow down a bit and try to focus on taking care of myself, I think that just kind of helped. I know it felt like a weight had lifted off my shoulders Sunday night, and then next thing I know I'm spotting Monday and Starting Tuesday.

I'm hoping if I can continue to just take care of myself, get sleep, go to the dr when I need to, etc, that it'll start going back to normal (and hopefully with the supplements). I really chronic stress and averaging 2-4 hours of sleep a night for almost 6 months is really what did this. Maybe there's some other factors, but I think that's the main culprit.

I think my main goal if anything is to keep working on de-stressing and getting enough sleep, and hopefully things will start falling into place. I will be disappointed if we aren't successful this month, but I'd rather be out this month and work on getting me healthier as otherwise we're just probably not going to be successful period.

Sorry for another novel... this all just kind of hit me.

 

[Katy78]

cnsweeney, I'll be joining your December thread once O is confirmed, if I'll be indeed testing in December (if O isn't early).

My OPK was negative yesterday of course, it was CD 11. There was a faint line which doesn't mean anything. I have increased CM but that can last for days before O.
Otherwise, not much going on. I'm very busy with my choir, we have an important concert this weekend so we need to practice more. So I'm taking a day off work tomorrow to spend extra time with my family.

 

[spunky84]

Depending on what AF is doing tomorrow, i may end up calling my midwife for an appt and see if she's willing to do lab work for my hormones to see if they're really off. I probably wouldn't be able to get in for a week or two though. She's not actually on tomorrow but hopefully they'll still schedule something.

This AF has been very different. The 55 day cycle AF was more of my normal. Maybe a little more with a little more cramping, but that seems expected with it being a long cycle. This lady cycle was 54 days so i expected pretty much the same.

I usually average 5-6 Days. Maybe 4 once in awhile, but it's pretty much all the same. Sometimes spot just before. Start out light. Following day medium. Once I while a little heavy, but medium is my norm for 1-2 days followed by 1 more lot and them that last bit of spotting brown. Cramps are average. Not terrible, but enough to know it's definitely AF.

This one started with temp drop. Light cramping. Started spring Monday night. Light flow Tuesday morning (copious amt of ewcm-like mixed in the one time ). Hardly any cramps whatsoever. Like if i had any they were barely noticeable. Light again today. No cramping. I haven't even felt like it's AF even though the temp drop, color, and light flow indicate it is. I've hardly had anything. A liner has been more than efficient.

CP today high, firm, closed. If I'm just spotting tomorrow then that'd be a 2 day AF which I've never had (at least that i remember).

So if I'm spotting tomorrow then I'm going to call. I was going to see how this cycle went as far as cycle length, etc especially if i could get on a better sleep schedule and decsress a bit to see if it shortens any. Plus i figured more than 1 wacky may help point her in a particular direction. But if i have a 2 day cycle out of the blue it may be better to just go and see what she thinks.

 

[Gypsy99]

Spunky i hope that the midwife can help with things. That sounds really confusing with your cycle. So frustrating not knowing what is going on.

Study is so stressful I don't know how you got through with so little sleep

Have you thought of testing again? If the bleeding doesn't stop? How many DPO were you before your AF turned up?

AFM - Sorry I'm being snobby. We just spent the afternoon shifting the children's bedrooms around. The house is a disgusting mess.

My nipples have been on fire at times this cycle. I woke up extremely bloated this morning and actually started thinking that maybe AF was coming. So it looks like it may be a cycle like the last where everyday I thought she was coming and ended up wearing pads with nothing for about a week! I'm either 9DPO or 11DPO. Shit knows really.

 

[spunky84]

Katy: Hopefully you'll get your positive opk soon! Have fun with your family and good luck with your concert!

Gypsy: I've pretty much just been on autopiliot with my sleep. School has just been so busy that it hasn't been much of a choice. Seeing how it was hurting my health I had to finally start just getting more sleep. As much as I want the best grades, I have to take a bit of a hit on them for the sake of my health. Plus if I don't, I'd probably end up failing. I'm just trying to look at it as I'm almost through it. This semester will be over December 16, and then I have 1 semester left, so I'm trying to use that to just get me through.

I did test yesterday and today to be sure, and negative on both. With the uncertainty of my O date, I could've been anywhere from 14dpo the first day of light flow (so 13 day LP) to 19dpo the day of light flow. If I did actually O on the 31st, that would've been 16 dpo. So unlikely, but I still wanted to double check today for my own piece of mind just because of the supplements.

Keeping fx for you! Are these typical PMS symptoms for you? When do you think you'll try testing?



AFM, I only had light spotting this morning, but I think that was mostly from sleeping as I tend to have a bit less in the morning from night. It seems like it might be picking up a bit more now, but still light. I'm fine if it stays a bit lighter. I was more worried about having only a 2 day AF. As long I at least get today and tomorrow, I'll probably hold off on calling. I'd rather have one more cycle of charting before calling as I'd like to be able to give her an idea of what my cycles have been like to hopefully make it easier to figure out what could be going on. I feel like I have a better shot at getting this chart more accurate with temps and cm and CP. I just want her to have the most accurate info.

On that note though, I ordered soy isoflavones. They should be arriving today. I had no idea how to take them or anything, so was looking it up last night and found out you're not supposed to take it with vitex and only for 5 days at the beginning of the cycle, so I didn't bother vitex today. I think I'll hold off.

Today is CD 3 so I'm going to start them tonight. I feel like I have nothing to lose with it at this point.

Temp was up slightly yesterday morning, but I only had 2 hours of sleep and accidentally temp at 5 instead of 5:45 (too much school work to finish). It was down quite a bit today. It's probably in the right range today, but I'm probably going to discard as it was probably very inaccurate. I was up and down all night as DS was up a lot, and I was trying to give DH a break from getting up as he's been doing it a lot. So sleep was very poor. I don't like the idea of discarding temps, but I really don't want to my an erratic chart like last cycle (at least from inconsistency -- if I'm consistent and it's erratic, that's out of my control).

 

[Gypsy99]

Spunky my symptoms are pretty normal. It's frustrating because I don't know what day in the cycle I am and I have 27-30 cycles so can't really 100% pinpoint from that either. My breasts have been noticeably more agitated this cycle though I'm definitely noticing that. I'm not wasting any tests though. It would only be if AF doesn't show up next weekend, because the bitch always tries to confuse me!

At least if you discard temps they still stay on your chart as little hollow dots so you can go back if you need to.

I really really really hope this cycle isn't as long for you.

Katy close to O time by the sounds though. I hope this is the last cycle for you.

 

[cnsweeney]

Spunky - I totally think de stressing would make a world of difference for you ! Sometimes you just gotta put you first . Make sleep a priority .. you'd be surprised what a lack of it could do to the body . Your body starts getting rid of the 'unnecessary functions' such as fertility ! Please make it a goal to get AT LEAST 6 hours a night fingers crossed you are able to let loose a little more this month and you have a better (& shorter !) cycle !

 

[cnsweeney]

Katy - while I hope to see you in the December thread, I of course also hope you O soon

Gypsy - your chart looks awesome ! Fingers crossed the bitch stays far away !

 

[cnsweeney]

AFM- today was the last day of AF let the fun begin again ! Lol