Ttc number 3 :)

[Gypsy99]

Temp has dropped to 36.3 cramping differently and my CP is lower and slightly open. Knew it was too good to be true. Thinking that 2nd dip may have been O day afterall. Cue me crying in bed. Not bleeding yet but I know I will soon.

And she arrived an hour after I got up. FFS .

Im going to keep tracking temps so I can track what's happening still i.e. if it's the same next month. Im not going hard though. Most likely DH won't want to touch me again. My self esteem is shot and don't have the energy this month. I just want to enjoy the lead up to Xmas.

 

[spunky84]

Gypsy: I'm so sorry I'm sorry that things are so hard with you and DH right now and that he's made you feel this way As much as I wish you were still trying again this cycle, I hope taking the month off will help things and that the temping will give you more to go on with your cycle

cns: I do think I O'd last month, but not until about CD 40 out of 54. I don't think it was a very good cycle. My post O temps seemed off. I know each cycle is different, but when I look at my post O temps with DD (I O'd the day I started temping, so don't have pre-O temps to go off of), they looked great. They just looked good. Last cycle's just didn't seem right. I had a rise, but then I had a steady decline over several days, then it shot up, and then straight back down the next day when I started spotting the day before AF. It just seemed off.

I think it's just that having nearly 2 month long cycles is just a bit defeating, waiting almost a month and a half just to O. It gives me approximately 6 tries a year instead of 11-12 tries. I think that's just what makes it hard with almost twice the waiting.

Your temps definitely seem to be looking better than last cycle! Hopefully it won't be long before you get your first positive opk!



AFM, I'm trying to keep more accurate track of my saliva microscope. Last cycle I would just do it and record what I got, but this time I'm taking daily pics and putting them all in a folder labeled so I can compare them day to day. It seemed pretty much all over the place last cycle.

Partial Ferning: CD 15, 16, 18, 19, 25, 37, 44, 47, and 54.
Full Ferning: CD 36 (1 day before first positive opk)

The rest in between were either negative or I didn't test out of frustration.

So now I want to at least see how it changes throughout the cycle and if it's any different. I started at CD 5 last cycle.

So far this cycle I've had partial ferning CD 6, 7, and 8 (CD 8 today). Slight ferning CD 3, but it was only one really small spot, so I didn't even record it as PF. I'm anxious to see how it all continues throughout my cycle. These ones, for some reason, seem different than the PF I had last cycle. Different / better?

 

[Gypsy99]

Spunky I hope that your cycle isn't as long this time. I'm sorry i have no idea what ferning is?

Thanks for the kind words DH and I had an at length chat about something else today which got me very riled up and i stormed out. We went back to it after 30 minutes of me calming down lol. But long story short he really wants to try the next couple of cycles and is all in / make a proper plan etc. So looks like I'm trying again. I'm a bit sore today compared to my last cycle though

 

[Katy78]

I'm sorry your cycle was a bust Gypsy .
But great that your DH is on board with TTC !
Good luck this cycle!

 

[spunky84]

Gypsy: I'm so glad you and DH got a lot of things out. I'm glad that you're back in, but more glad that you guys got to really talk about things and that he's going to make a proper effort.

Ferning is supposed to help show an estrogen surge. You're supposed to put your saliva on this mini microscope slide and let it dry. When there's increased estrogen, when your saliva dries, it creates ferning / crystallized patterns on the slide. Non-fertile saliva just shows a but of spots / dots. As estrogen begins to increase, you get transitional ferning which is spots / dots with some ferning patterns beginning to show. Full ferning shows your estrogen surge which is full out ferning / crystallized patterns. Hard to explain lol It doesn't work for everyone, so I'm not sure if I'm one of those, but usually you'll ovulate within so many hours after a full fern reading. From what I've read, many get full ferning and then get a positive opk within the next day or two.

Last cycle I'm pretty sure I had full ferning the day before my first positive opk.



AFM, I ended up waking up about 45 minutes earlier than I would have liked. I should've had a bit over 5 hours of sleep last night, but woke up just after 5. Decided to temp then as I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to fall alseep, but either way, figured it'd be more accurate anyway as that was my longest period of sleep. I've been getting more sleep in general, but last night wasn't my best night (4.5 hours). I napped yesterday afternoon, and I think that made it more difficult to fall asleep.

Anyway, temp shot up over 1 degree. 1.41 degrees actually! 0.74 from the temp before and 0.34 from the highest temp in the last 6 days. The only day that it was almost has high (97.39) was CD 2 which I discarded as I only slept about 2 hours.

I can't imagine that I O'd on CD 8 though. It'd be kind of nice if I did, though I can't imagine it'd be that early, and even if it was, I can't imagine the egg would be that great of quality. If I did, hopefully that'll at least mean a much shorter cycle! But I'm not getting my hopes up.

Last night CP was medium, medium, medium. I didn't document cm as we BD'd yesterday morning and I wasn't sure.

I just ordered CB advanced digital opk (with 20 sticks). They should be here Friday, so I'll probably start Saturday morning with those (CD 12). I'm only starting that early as I've read that O can happen 5-10 days after last dose of SI, but it doesn't necessarily mean an earlier O though. I'm not sure how I'm going to use them yet, especially as I don't want to waste them all if I'm not going to O until somewhere in the 40s.

Does anyone think I would be okay to test every other morning? If I do that, I could make it to CD 38 with them. If I do the occasional every 2 mornings and then maybe every morning or every other morning once I get a flashing smiley? I don't know. Not sure how to do to this without running out while trying to cover my bases. I don't want to miss O, but I also don't want to run out if I can avoid it. I'm still doing IC, but I really liked being able to have that Peak result last cycle. It made me feel more confident in things.

 

[spunky84]

I'm starting to wonder if CD 7 is full ferning??? Those seem unusually strong for my partial fernings. No idea. Obviously only time will tell!

https://i68.tinypic.com/29da3v4.jpg

 

[Gypsy99]

That's really interesting Spunky! I still have no idea what I am looking at though lol

Hopefully the OPK's arrive soon so that you can clarify things.

I'm having an uneventful unmotivated day! I'll moving onto making sure that both DH and I are taking the right multivitamins too so will get onto that over the weekend. The more I think about it the more it will be nice to have a BFP for Christmas! I'm just hoping that we don't make the one year mark now DH is completely in, instead of just being so blase about everything.

 

[Katy78]

Hi.
I just wanted to share this month's OPK progression - from top to bottom: CD 15/16/17.
I felt O pain and I was terribly bloated for two days. Hoping that a high quality egg was released and that there's a tiny cluster of cells multiplying inside me right now.

https://i495.photobucket.com/albums/rr311/katyazib/IMG_20161124_115256.jpg

 

[cnsweeney]

Hey ladies .. I will respond more later but wanted to update real quick .. I am sick again horrible head cold and O is due in a few days . Opk today was negative but pretty dark . I'm sure a positive will come tmw or the next day .. that is if O doesn't get delayed from this stupid illness !
Have any of you ever conceived while ill?

 

[Gypsy99]

Good luck CNS I haven't conceived while sick sorry . but maybe taking that flu medicine they recommend for cervical mucus will be of benefit

I'm day 3 of AF so meh, I''m counting down!! Hoping that things will go right this cycle.

 

[cnsweeney]

Gypsy - I see your temp has stayed the exact same for the past 3 days ! How strange lol .
Today wasn't too bad .. for those who celebrate thanksgiving I hope you had a good holiday with family and friends ! I had a rough start to my day with this cold but got better throughout the day .. just a stopped up nose the morning will be the true test . Sickness is always worse in the mornings ! But I def don't feel as bad tonight as I did last night! I couldn't take a reliable temp this morning because I was running a low grade (99) fever . Hope tmw is better . Maybe I should take some Tylenol now to curb any fever so I can get a reliable temp . What do you guys think ?
Dh & I plan to brave the Black Friday sales tmw for the first time ever ! Wish is luck ! Lol
Cm was creamy tonight . I usually get ewcm a couple days before o so maybe this is a good sign .. hopefully the illness goes away before o decides to happen !


Katy- I hope you catch that eggy ! Opk looks nice !

Gypsy - I'm so glad dh is on board and you guys talked . Sometimes it takes a heated argument to get things on the table !

Spunky - sounds like you have all your bases covered ! Baby dust to you this cycle !! As for the clear blue tests , I think every other day until you get flashers is good .. then every day

 

[spunky84]

Gyspy: What kind of vitamins are you planning on getting? I asked DH if he'd be willing and he just rolled his eyes and said he doesn't need any lol That would be awesome to have a Christmas BFP! I hope things go better for you and DH this cycle. I really am happy that he's in. I know I've already said that before lol but I just know with the conflicts with DH and me that it can be very hard.

Katy: Awesome progression! Fx and hope the wait goes quickly!

cns: I'm sorry that you're sick again Hopefully it won't impact your cycles like last time! I don't think I was sick at all when conceiving DD or DS, but hopefully it' won't hurt your chances. I've been pretty much sick since the beginning of September. I had a short period of being better once I finished my antibiotics just a bit ago, but then started getting sick again this past Saturday, but seem to be getting better again. I think it's the stupid weather!

Good luck shopping! I've only ever gone out once with an ex and his dad several years ago. I would never willingly do what we did lol We stood outside of Best Buy for several hours, freezing. It was totally chaotic. I was just there to help get items for the ex's dad. He was a big black friday shopper.

We did go out last night after dinner so DH could get something. It's not something we typically do, but he's really into working out and found a really good deal on weights, so we went out and got it (the kids passed out shortly after getting in the van lol). He wanted to look at something else today. I figured it'd be fun to go. Something fun to do as a family since we don't really get days like this. He started a new job last December, so this is his first black friday that he doesn't have to worry about getting called out for a job. This is the first time he's been able to go out in several years. I hope you guys have fun though!



AFM, I got dotted cross hairs of FF for CD 8 (Nov 22). While hopeful that I did O, I'm still checking and preparing in case it actually wasn't though not sure about the temps though!

I'm not sure if I had ewcm yesterday or not. I recorded as such just in case. I wasn't sure if it was left over from BD a little over 24 hours prior. It wasn't a ton. A small amount in the afternoon. Slightly more at night, but not a ton. Stretchy, but still globby. I tried the toilet paper test and the water test. It didn't soak into the toilet paper and it balled up in water and just sort of hung out. Pulled it back out and stretched it out again. So not totally sure. Fluid intake yesterday was pathetic, so I don't know if that could change how globby or thin.

No positive opk. I tested randomly starting CD 6... I know I said I'd wait, but I couldn't help it. I don't remember times or anything or how dilute the urine was, so I don't know if anything was accurate (besides that I read, too, that opks shouldn't be started until 3-4 days after the last dose of SI). I had one CD 9 that looked almost positive, but I think it wouldn't have been accurate anyway as I think I would've had to of waited until yesterday at the earliest.

Clearblue should arrive today, so I'll start those tomorrow.

Also some nice ferning this morning.

I'm doubting O on CD 8 because that just seems insane, but who knows because of the temps. Only time will tell.

 

[Gypsy99]

I wonder as (not that I fully understand ferning) you said it looked like full fern and your temps show it. I guess in the next couple of days you'll figure it out.

I think I o'd cd 15 looking at my chart closer.

I'm just grabbing a mens multi and some more maca. Nothing crazy because I know he won't take them. We eat a bit of vege and meat so think we cover a bit.

It's getting warmer here and I think it's effecting my temps. Im going to try get into bding from day 11-16 if possible this cycle. I'm going to start saving for preseed if water / grapefriit / primrose / green tea doesn't work lol.

 

[cnsweeney]

Spunky - today wasn't so bad ! I think a lot of people do online shopping these days so it's not as hectic as it used to be ! We scored some good deals though and got a lot of things off our list I didn't feel completely horrible this morning but def still have a stopped up nose . Temp was back down today without the Tylenol so I guess that's good ! Towards the end of shopping today I started feeling nauseated and still kind of do , idk why but I hope it goes away and stays away lol.

I went to the bathroom this evening to do another opk , it was negative this morning .. although I had to ask dh his opinion because the test line looked dark but not quite there yet . He said it was negative lol. Plus I didn't have fertile cm so I figured it was for sure negative . Well when I went tonight I had loads of super stretchy ewcm . & im not sure about my opk.. gonna post a pic . What do you ladies think?
Maybe my illness isn't throwing things off after all .

 

[Gypsy99]

It looks positive or very close to positive to me!! Yay for your sickness not screwing with things!! Onwards to the BDing!!

 

[spunky84]

Gypsy: Good luck with the supplements! Hopefully BDing between CD 11 - 16 will work out for you. Do you remember which CD you O'd around the previous cycle? It sounds like it could be a pretty consistent range for you. That's one of the things that I love about charting, even if it doesn't work for everyone (esp with irregular cycles), that you can get a good idea when to expect to O.

Did you continue the grapfruit juice after you O'd last cycle? I still have another huge container. I just opened it the other day. I figured since I'm not sure if I O'd or not I'm going to keep on drinking it until I have a better idea.

cns: Yeah, I definitely think it's gone more online since I went lol I pretty much finished up our Christmas shopping online today. We were fortunate enough to not be going anywhere that was a big black friday shopping place. The one exit we passed on our way was backed up so badly they actually had police directing traffic! It was a nice little outing for us though.

I'm glad the Tylenol helped with the temp. Hopefully you'll be feeling better soon!

As for the opk, I'd say negative, but looks like it's on its way! I use Accumed which looks exactly like that. I'm guessing you'll get your positive tomorrow. Though I know some people get a lighter test line that is actually positive for them, so maybe! But my guess is that it'll be positive tomorrow for sure!


AFM, I'm feel like I'm in a better place, mentally, with this cycle. While I don't know for sure if I O'd on CD 8 or not, I'm okay with that. If I did, I feel like it'll actually make the 2ww go much quicker and less agonizing and ss lol I feel like I've accepted that regardless there's nothing I can do to change whether or not it did happen, so I think that helps in kind of letting go of the idea that I have any control over it and just let things happen as there's no choice lol but I think just accepting the fact helps loads.

I got some nice ferning today which is what makes me think I could potentially gearing up for it. I still have to check CP. CM I still haven't really gotten a clear idea on it. At one point seemed just dry. Another seemed like a smidge of ewc. And another seemed a little creamy, so not really sure what to document. I may document whatever I find or don't find when I check CP for documentation.

There was nothing remarkable about the microscope for CD 10. Ferning popped up like right away this morning. I had to get a super up close pic as my phone just isn't the greatest at taking pics for this (I really really miss my note 7!)

 

[cnsweeney]

Thanks ladies !
Spunky - I think I'm one of those ones that never get a true positive . But I'm gonna take one more before bed and again in the morning
I agree with feeling better mentally this go round . I feel more relaxed despite all of the vitamins and temping .. maybe we are just more used to it now ? Lol idk but it's a good feeling not stressing so much.

 

[spunky84]

Cns: I'd say that's positive then! Did you do another before bed?


AFM, temp still up. 97.79. I'm wondering if it's still up tomorrow if FF will change cross hairs to CD 10 since i may have had ewcm that day (though not 100%sure if it was). Either way we're covered. I'm just speculating as i like trying to interpret and improve on it lol but i also didn't have any positive opks unless i missed the surge. Still keeping an open mind that i could still O, so still planning on BD until I'm more confident that we don't need to worry about timing. If i did O on CD 8 or 10, then we should know either way within a week based on temps.

BD this morning. Crampy afterwards. I know my cervix seemed a little sensitive lady cycle, but it seems very sensitive now. The last couple of days especially. Cramped just checking cm. And cp. And tmi, but cramped a lot with just a bm lay night. Yesterday seems like I've cramped the most from those. Last night the first worth a bm. BD just a bit ago and still cramping (no O - just trying to squeeze it in before the kids wake up). Cramping more right after, so it's subsiding, but still there a bit.

Since I'm cramping so much, I'm not going to check cm during the day. Just at night when i check cp to irritate it less.

 

[cnsweeney]

I did another opk last night and this morning and they are still pretty much the same. Temp has spiked today , still have ewcm and cp is hso. If temps stay high I will assume I O'd last night. If they don't stay high I will discard today's temp as I took it later than usual and I was really hot when I woke up this morning .. dh keeps turning the fan down , I like the fan high .. we are never the same temperature ! Haha . But I guess if I did o last night we at least got 2 attempts in yesterday and I used preseed one of those times

Spunky - even though you had ewcm cd10 your temps def show o cd 8 ! If I o'd last night , my ewcm is different than it was last month .. I had it 3 days before o last month & this time only got it the day of O .

 

[Gypsy99]

Did you continue the grapfruit juice after you O'd last cycle? I still have another huge container. I just opened it the other day. I figured since I'm not sure if I O'd or not I'm going to keep on drinking it until I have a better idea.

I drank it for about 6 days over CD10 from memory but then I ran out of it and just didn't buy anymore. Do you think it may be helping? I think I o'd either CD13 or CD15.

Good idea checking it only once. If only i could follow your lead! LOL I need to check it at the same time as temping and that is it!!

CNS it sounds like you have given it everything this cycle!! Good luck to you!! may the next two weeks go fast!


AFM - nothing much going on here. Waiting until next weekend until I can get us going for it. Hoping that DH doesn't go all blase about it all again! I've calculated that we would find out only a few days before Christmas so will be a nice Xmas pressie. Only thing is it will suck a bit not being able to to drink lol. Priorities right!!