Ttc number 3 :)

Alright ladies , I lied ! Took another opk tonight and it's a real positive ! So looks like I should be ovulating tmw just as scheduled ! I guess my temp this morning wasn't accurate from it being 9am instead of 6am & it was hot . So I'm going to discard it . Looks like we will be dtd some more ! Lol
 

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cns: If I'm being honest, I really do think it was CD 8 as well. I just thought it was the soy isoflavones, but I had TONS of right and left twinges that were pretty strong right around then. I think I'm just mostly afraid of missing the window just in case, even though my temps say otherwise lol But, like I said, if it keeps me occupied in the tww, then I'm okay with that lol I'd rather be SS for O rather than pg lol

That last opk looks great! Have fun BDing some more!

Gypsy: I really hope DH doesn't back out around O :( Has he said anything about if knowing that you're about to O makes it more stressful for him and hinders his ability to be able to perform? I'm just wondering because I know I've read many posts about how some guys have really had a hard time with knowing about it and was able to do better when not knowing. I didn't know if maybe this was something he was having a hard time with.

That would be so AWESOME if you got a bfp right before Christmas! And I don't think the drinking thing makes you sound bad lol Not at all! I've been wanting some drinks myself, but I'm embarrassed to say the only reason I haven't is because I'm afraid of it making my bbt inaccurate :blush: I think if my temps and cycles were more normal I'd probably have one here and there, but I'm becoming quite anal about making sure I get accurate temps since my cycles are weird.

I'm not sure if the grapefruit juice really helped, but I don't think it really had a chance to. I didn't start it until CD 5. As much as I've been trying to increase my fluid intake in general, it's been very hard, so I know that more than anything has made it difficult to really get anything decent for cm. My school schedule just gets so busy that I often forget to drink or don't have time to be running back and forth to the bathroom. I really need to get that figured out though!

I still have about half a container left. I may buy more, I don't know. I was reading that it has some good health benefits otherwise, so I may still continue it for the other health benefits. I've adjusted to it and can tolerate it now. I don't by any means like it lol and still find it quite disgusting lol but it's become more tolerable. As long as I'm still able to tolerate it, I may buy more for just general health benefits.


AFM, I'm having a weird day. I know it's only 4dpo, so I know it's absolutely nothing related whatsoever, but it's just been a weird day. I think it's the timing of everything. Considering we ttc around this time with DD. Something about Christmas music, ttc, and just the general feeling of this time of year just made things weird. I don't know how to explain it. Deja vu maybe? lol I don't know, but just weird. Just a lot of memories of how everything felt 4 years ago around this time.

Then I logged into my monthly cycles. I forgot about the website. I used it a long time ago to track my cycles just because I always hated the surprise of AF. I couldn't remember the last time I used it, so I logged in to see if it's something I could use now (I like using different websites and apps as I like seeing how they differ though use FF as my main in determining what's going on). So I logged in and my last cycle logged was November 2007, from my first pregnancy.

I remember all of my symptoms very clearly, but it was strange looking back and seeing me noting all of my symptoms and not even realizing I was pregnant. Then seeing the noted "positive pregnancy test" December 11th that year.

Very nostalgic today!

Then I napped for almost 4 hours. I had a dream that DH and I split up, but we were still living together. And he was hooking up with his sister-in-law. I mean, I didn't see anything in my dream, but I knew what was going on behind closed doors, and it was just gutting. I can't shake how it made me feel in my dream. (I'm not worried about him being with anyone at all, especially not his SIL lol, but it was still a pretty crappy dream).
 
Hey Spunky! I know what you mean with keeping up with the fluid intake. seriously so hard to do. I keep thinking that I used to somehow get through a day with only drinking one glass of coffee or tea. How the hell wasn't i thirsty!! Now I feel like sometimes I'm over drinking.

I've had a couple of nights of drinking TBH just to keep my sanity. Sometimes it's a destress.

With DH he gets stressed quite easily, but he honestly has a shit sex drive. Well compared to mine anyway LOL. This time he seems more keen so fingers crossed!

I've bought my grapefruit juice today so will start drinking that from tomorrow. I was only spotting yesterday so I only had a 3 day period :-/
 
Gyspy: I used to do well with my fluid intake when I had a desk job. It was easier to get in at work while I just sat there. More difficult at home, but I at least had 5/7 days with very good fluid / water intake. It's so hard now with school. In class I'm taking notes and trying to pay attention. Even if I do drink, I can't getting up frequently to go to the bathroom. I try to get in what I can before class starts, but it's still not enough. Then on my clinical days I try to get what I can in with breakfast before I go in, but even then I'm so busy that I don't have time to run to the bathroom or drink a ton. If I have the chance I try to take a few minutes to grab a small cup of water, but even then, most days it's so hard to even think about how thirsty I am. I need to figure it out though because if we're successful at any point, I really need to figure it out.

I totally get the drinks for your sanity! A lot of nights it's too hard just because of school or I can't the night before a clinical. The nights I can, I've been too worried about my temp in the morning. I think once break is here in a few weeks, I may take a night or two to have a drink or two to de-stress and not worry about my temps.

It sounds like our DHs are very similar if I'm being honest!

Keeping fx for you! Hopefully you get some good results with the grapefruit juice again!


AFM, a bit bummed that my temp dropped quite a bit this morning. 97.36, but it's still above the CL. In spirit of trying not to get too depressed or over analyze anything.... I'm still just trying to say it is what it is and I'll know in time if there's any significance to any of it lol

But despite trying not to over analyze... that didn't quite happen lol I shifted through a bunch of charts on FF. Then I went back and looked at my chart with DD and found it interesting, though I can't imagine a dip at this point being significant.

With DD 7-9 dpo:
97.84 up 0.05 to 97.89 and then next day down 0.41 to 97.48.

This cycle "3-5 dpo":
97.74 up 0.05 to 97.79 and then today down 0.43 to 97.36.

Not over analyzing at all :haha:

With that this morning's temp, because I had ewcm recorded for CD 10, it moved O up to CD 10. I removed ewcm because I really don't think it was and it moved it back to CD 8.

Buuuuuut.... 2 days of CB advanced opk, low fertility CD 11 and 12 (or 3-4 dpo). This morning I got a flashing smiley and lots of cm that was watery, boarding ewcm. We BD'd about 24 hours ago, but when I checked cm last night, it was nothing like this, so I don't think it's from that.

So I'm guessing I've been having some fluke higher temps and may be Oing soon. I'm just going to keep up with CB opks daily at this point as I think I either O'd CD 8 (with nothing other than tons of twinges, some more intense than others around then to show for it) or am about to, so I might as well.

Some ferning today, but not a lot. I may wipe the slide off an do it again before I have my grapefruit juice and supplements. I told DH that we need to definitely BD every other day at this point, just in case as yesterdays might mean squat if I could be ovulating in the next whatever (as I don't know how soon to expect a peak result after a flashing as I've read that some have had many flashing smileys before peak).

Sorry for the novel. It feels like a wealth of information dumped on me this morning lol

ETA: Lots of sneezing yesterday from afternoon onward and this morning already which is usually indicative of sinus issues coming on though I don't have the other usual signs of it yet, so it may just be a slow onset (usually I'm full out sick by the next morning if it starts the day before).
 

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Sorry just a quick one. It's only a small temp drop spunky and only a few days past O. Try to keep going with DH if you can.

Afm my temp is being weird. Down to 36 today but know I've not ovulated. I took it an hour before usual though. The weather here has been quite hot for NZ and last night was a bit chillier so could be something. Im going to look at a new thermo tomorrow I think.
 
I am crazy horny at the moment lol. My body is telling me something!!

I'll be working on getting DH interested over the weekend as Friday is the start - CD10. Poor thing is probably going to get attacked a couple of nights :blush:
 
Gypsy: :laugh2: Have fun over the next couple of days!


AFM, well... either I've had some fluke high temps and am about to O soon, or I'm having an insanely short cycle and LP. A HUGE temp drop today, right down to 96.74 :( When I had a similar drop last cycle, I started spotting that night and AF started the next day. Flashing smiley again this morning (Also had flashing smiley last cycle right before AF). BD last night just in case, but I'm thinking AF will start today or tomorrow.

I'm trying not to be disappointed, but I am. Though if it is AF about to start, then at least we can start again real soon which is far more comforting than going 54-55 days only to fail. If it is 13-14 day cycle then I'm definitely calling for an appointment for my levels. To go from a 54 day cycle to a 13-14 day cycle, something is seriously off which I'm guessing is the case as I barely had a 3 day AF which was very light to boot. It's just hard to find the time to go, but I feel like I at least have a bit more information to take with me. Unless we just keep trying until I'm done with school so that once everything gets figured out it'll be better timing?
 
I'm sorry things are so confusing for you spunky !
Just curious , when you conceived your ds and dd were you trying then or did it kind of just happen ? sorry if you already mentioned those pregnancies before ! Just wondering if you had these things happen before or if this is new. IF something is wrong , my first guess would be pcos . BUT I'm hoping your big dip is just implantation dip ! :) it is perfect timing for it @ 6dpo ! Also , do you ever get ewcm ? Wondering if you got that at all around cd8 ? & i guess you weren't using opks yet around that time ?
Maybe if it's not ID or AF , maybe you are about to actually O & your other temps were just flukes .. you tend to have erratic temps so really this is just a small snapshot of the big picture.. over the coming days you will be able to see a little better what's going on . Granted it's not AF of course .. but like you said , that would be an incredibly short cycle even if there was a hormonal imbalance or something . Considering you got a high reading today on the monitor it makes me wonder if you're gearing up to actually O . :) keep us updated ! Unfortunately only time will tell ... it can be so frustrating I know ! :(

Gypsy - have fun ! :) I know what you mean .. around O I always get turned on by the stupidest things dh does lol. Poor guy .. he loves it when we aren't ttc but to be honest ttc can sometimes put a damper on things .. anyone else feel that way ? Like normally I'm the one telling him to stop because he is like a dog in heat always lol . But when we are ttc I'm pouncing on him every night during the fertile window and no matter how hard we try to make it spontaneous , we both know why we are bd'ing and it just makes it different than normal , lol. But oh well .. hopefully this is the end of my window and we can go back to normal and him being the annoying one :haha:

AFM - I got a .3 temp spike today . It's been about 36 hours since my first positive opk so i am hoping I did O and caught the beginning of my temp rise . I haven't done another opk yet but they were clearly positive all day yesterday . Does anyone know if they go back to negative right after O ?
We bd'd again last night & cp was HSO. I've had major dull pains in my side since Friday or Saturday . I'm noticing now that I get these every month around O so I'm starting to think it's O pains . I don't get them in the lower front hip area like everyone else . Does anyone else get anything similar ? Thinking back , I've always had these aches around O. But only on my right side . Never on my left . I have had issues with developing cysts though mainly on that ovary though so maybe I have another .. they also had to reposition that ovary a couple years ago right before I got pregnant with dd. They did a laparoscopy to remove a cyst and discovered that ovary was tucked behind my uterus or something . They also discovered mild endometriosis and removed most of it . Hoping nothing is going to effect ttc . If we aren't successful this month I am going to request a sono to check for cysts .. they usually aren't supposed to have an impact on fertility but I'm still just curious .
Time to wait for the next two temps to see if I really did O or not . Waiting is so not my forte . Haha
 
Took another opk and right away it looked positive again but now that I compare all of them it looks like it may ever so slightly be getting a little lighter and my true positives were on Saturday night - Sunday lunch time . The test line was darker than the control then and now it seems to be just as dark . Thoughts ?
 

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cns: It's hard to say 100%, but I'd say probably negative as it looks slightly lighter than the control, but like ever so slightly, so possibly still positive? I know I'm absolutely no help with that :laugh2: I think I'm going to make my final decision as still positive, but I think you had your peak Saturday/Sunday (if there is such a thing with IC).

I think your temp rise looks good especially when taken into considering with cm and cp. I'm guessing your chart looks good for O on CD 14.

The pains I usually get that I'm assuming are (or maybe aren't) O are on my sides in the hip region towards the front, but I've never been sure if they've been O pains or not.

For my stuff, this is all pretty new. I've had irregular cycles before (but I'm talking like light spotting maybe 4 times a year several years ago), but I was also weighed significantly more and once I reached about the weight I am now, my cycles became regular. Irregular cycles didn't start until I got the IUD in at the end of March this year, but as it was non-hormonal, I don't know if that could've really done anything and it was just coincidence as it coincided with increased stress and lack of sleep.

I was actually pregnant twice before DD. It was a previous long term relationship. The first time was November 2007 and had a mmc and needed a d&c (no known cause or anything). Second time was November 2009 and had a mc, but I also didn't know I was pregnant until I started having a mc as I had no symptoms and weird light periods and spotting which I thought was just my cycles being irregular again.

Third time was DD with DH. With her I thought I was too far into my cycle to get pregnant. We got married on CD 21 and that night decided whatever happened, happened. The next day DH and I talked about actually ttc. I bought a bbt thermometer CD 23, took my first temp CD 24, temp spike CD 25 and temps remained up from there on out and got a positive around 13 dpo. U/S put dates to CD 21, our wedding night, but I really think I didn't O until CD 24. But essentially no trying.

With DS, he was an oops. At our age you would've thought that we would've known better than using withdrawal method as birth control. I was checking cm and cp, but that was more just so I could understand my cycles, and I honestly had no clue that I was O'ing based on cm or cp. Like I had no fertile cm and cp certainly wasn't SHOW or anything and I don't remember having either shortly after -- Ultrasound put dates on that day. Obviously could've O'd at some point after, but that was the only day we had sex around that time and had a strong positive around 18 estimated dpo (CB weeks estimator lined right up too). Obviously that's not exact confirmation lol but either way he was an oops with absolutely no typical signs of ovulation around then.


I didn't document cm CD 8 or 9 because of the BDing, and it's just way too hard for me to tell, so I decided to spare myself the confusion and not worry about it. CP was medium across the board CD 8. I was doing some opks, but I didn't really pay much attention to them. Nothing screamed positive anyway. I had some darker ones, but nothing near the control line.

I did take soy isoflavones between CD 3-7, so I don't know if they could've caused some increased temps afterwards or not. So maybe fluke temps from them? My last dose was in the evening on the 21st. I'm hoping that this is just upcoming O. Honestly, I've been wondering about PCOS though. I've read where people have had no issues ttc before, but then are diagnosed with it later.

I don't know how stress changes bbt, but that's really the only thing that has changed over the last 2 days. The last 2 days have been insanely stressful. Saturday not as bad, but yesterday was awful. DS is teething pretty hardcore right now, and then add in constipation yesterday. He screamed pretty much 24/7 yesterday. He got a little better after he finally pooped some, but was still a miserable mess. Then to make it worse, DD was in a foul mood yesterday and a good majority of the time we had both of them screaming and crying non-stop. So yesterday was just lovely. Not sure if stress makes bbt go in one direction or the other, but that was the main difference.

I still have a lot of school work to do today, but I'm trying to keep today as low stress as possible. Even if I've not O'd or am starting AF, I need to try to get my stress levels under control as I was doing pretty good with that before.

Another novel... sorry! :blush: Just a lot of back story and other bits of info. :blush:
 
Five bucks says it's AF. Only because all I want right now is chocolate (and am actually inhaling fun size chocolates), and constantly feel like crying and have cried a couple times today already. And actually none of those times were related to my temp drop or at the prospect of AF showing up, surprisingly. I'm actually okay with it knowing that I didn't waste a couple of months and can get right back to it.

DH was being a jerk this morning. Normally I'd just be annoyed and probably give him the silent treatment for the day worst case scenario (well, as much as I can while we're not around each other :haha:) or just be annoyed and get over it, but I ended up crying over it. He ended up circling back home before going to work.

Then I ran to the grocery store because we forgot some things. I felt like crying the whole time I was there. Got home and started crying when reading a post. I <3 AF and the insanity that comes along with it.

But the good news is that I found some CB week estimator tests! I can't find any in the stores or on Amazon (not sure what the deal is with that???). Found some on ebay and ordered some. I might have even found some old style FRER from bed bath and beyond. I order 2 packs of 3 (free shipping). Worst case scenario they aren't, and best case scenario they are. Either way I don't have to feel like an idiot buying even more. But once I get both orders I am locking them up and pray that I have a reason to use them before they expire :haha: But I refuse to use them all willy nilly. I may even make DH hide them so I can't be tempted at all.
 
I am so sorry Spunky, but at least as you've said it's a much shorter cycle. how confusing for you though!! AF is such a dick. Seriously. We are mad women when it comes. Let the tears flow and do what you need to to keep sane.

CNS i wish that was my DH!! I feel like I want to be annoyed! it does change things around that time, and it's weird because afterwards in my head I'm always like "well that's got to be a baby now after that!!" lol but then no baby.....

i don't use OPK's sorry. my opinion is just a guess.

AFM - i know I'm not fertile yet, but i can feel my body ramping up more than usual before O. I have sticky CM, and a high hard cervix so definitely not, but my boobs are acting up still, and I'm horny as hell!!

DH is on his last week of study and he is so so exhausted. I kind of tried last night but then we just fell asleep cuddling. it's too early anyway so I need to try and not put too much pressure on him. I'm thinking on or as close as i can figure O is I'm going to do the full candles, massage, lingerie and wine routine :-P Try and make it as romantic as possible. So from last cycle i was looking about day 13-15 so I'll try it on Monday night, and hope like hell we can fit a couple other sessions in and around then. This has to be my month i want nothing more than to give DH a positive pregnancy test for Christmas.

I'm home alone today which doesn't happen often and been cleaning the house and it still looks like I have done nothing. Children make a pigsty :shrug:

I'm going to play final fantasy on the playstation after lunch!! Something i never do.
 
Alright , I think my surge is finally over and I think I got my true negative finally . I'll keep testing until I'm sure lol . But I'm 90% sure I O'd last night . Praying we caught that eggy !
 

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Opk is even lighter this morning so I'm happy about that . BUT my temp dropped :( I'm only 2 dpo. I temped over and over and it would not go up even after getting up and moving around . So I went ahead and recorded the original temp of 97.21 which is somewhere around my CL . I even had a couple temps lower than that after I got up and moving , one was even 96.95 ! How strange ! I of course started googling and read something about a fallback rise that occurs on 2dpo.. has anyone else heard of that ? It's apparently when estrogen is still not fallen all the way and progesterone is still on the rise .. idk but I am praying so hard that's what it was . I was so gutted not having another high temp this morning . I'm almost certain I O'd with the opks fading in and then out right on schedule , very prominent ewcm at the same time , cp going SHOW, & pain in my right side that went away after supposed O day . Then a temp spike like I expected and now this :( I guess we will see tomorrow !
I went back to sleep for a couple hours after those temps and when I woke back up it was 97.9 . Made a note of it but do you guys think that means anything at all?
 
Gypsy: Sounds like you have a nice night planned for when it's time! I really hope that helps get and keep things going. I hope you had a nice afternoon playing final fantasy! I miss being able do things like that! I may have to try and squeeze a time in.

cns: It sounds like a definite O CD 14. I've heard of fallback rise, but I don't know a lot about it. I know it's so gutting when you're expecting a higher temp and getting a lower one :( Hopefully it'll be back up tomorrow as all of the O symptoms really do make it sound like you did especially having a spike the next day.

It's hard to stay if the temp means anything after a couple of hours. How close was it to your normal time? Were you up and about between your original temp time and going back to sleep? Hopefully it'll be nice and high tomorrow :hugs:


AFM, Nothing new, really. Temp up slightly, but only by a smidge, so a normal variation. Another flashing smiley.

Last cycle I had a flashing smiley CD 51 and 52 and then ran out of opks - the first one used was Peak, so I don't know how many flashing I would've had before then. Huge temp drop CD 54, started spotting that night and AF started the next day.

Based on that, if AF is coming, I guess it'll be in a couple of days, but I'm guessing if AF doesn't come tomorrow then it's not AF but waiting to O. Though I've read it's possible to get nothing but flashing smileys or tons of flashing smileys before peak. I feel like I'm only going to see flashing.

Nothing on IC opks to indicate I'm anywhere near O.

I'm thinking the higher temps were false / fluke high temps from the isoflavones. Not sure if that's possible, but it's the only thing I can think of as there was nothing else that seems to have been able to cause them. I discarded them for now, but I'll put them back if it seems necessary. I feel like they are just going to throw my chart off even more if they aren't from Oing.
 
Spunky - it looks like you had a fallback rise your last cycle looking at your charts . I guess we will see if that's what it is for me tmw . As for the later temp I took this morning , I had gotten up to send my 7 year old off to school but even when I came back to bed it was really low . I then fell back asleep and woke up to the higher temp so I'm not sure .
As for you , I honestly don't see a clear O anywhere .. your cervix doesn't seem to be SHOW anywhere on your chart .. have you been checking your cm at all ? Do you typically get ewcm ? You may have already answered that before I'm not sure .. if you don't I would use preseed at every bd just in case you are fertile and don't know it :) keep testing with the cb digi .. looks like a peak may come soon ! I would keep using the ic's also in conjunction with those .. having a dark ic and peak cb would be gold . I'm not sure about your high temps that you removed but that cycle day 8 low temp seems to be more of a fluke than any of them in my opinion .. that's really low . What were your high temps again ? Fingers crossed O happens soon if it hasn't already but in my opinion I don't think it has yet but I think it may be coming ! I had flashy smileys on my cb for 6 days before running out last cycle .. all of those that were high readings I was getting negatives on ic's but as soon as I ran out of the cb strips the ic's started being positive on the 7th and 8th day and I ovulated on the 9th day of testing .. so I think I would have gotten 7-8 flashers before getting my peak .. so just be patient ! :)
 
cns: I can't tell 100% sure if I did or not last cycle. If it was CD 40 I'd say definitely, but if CD 42 then I don't think I did. I think Gypsy may have had one last cycle as well. I had never heard of it until she had mentioned it in one of her posts.

I hope your temps go back up tomorrow. Everything else seems to match up too perfectly for you to not have O'd.

I put my high temps back in and did a screen shot. I finished the soy isoflavones the night before my big dip, so I just feel like those were responsible for what happened.

I check cm at least once a day (though usually more), but DH and I BD'd too much during that time for me to be able to really tell. I thought I had watery CD 11 and 12, but it was just too hard to tell with the BDing (I think things stick around a little longer than it should?). So I've just not been documenting it as I feel like it's just going to add to the confusion.

I don't usually get ewcm. I haven't really had it in a long time. I'm horrible at drinking which I'm really trying to change that around now. I honestly can't stand water (haven't been able to tolerate it since being pregnant with DS). I took a jug of it with me to school this morning and had to try not to gag trying to drink it, so I'm trying to think of alternative ways to get it in me.

I'm actually feeling okay about this cycle. Even if I don't O for another 10 days, that's still sooner than last cycle. I O'd CD 24 with DD. I'm just hoping to O early enough that I can test (and hopefully get a bfp) by Dec 18 or Christmas.


Attached opks. I attached all of my flashing smiley sticks. I know they say don't look at the sticks, but I can't help but compare them. I've been doing morning and afternoon since getting the first flashing since they said you can test more than once a day once you do get it. I'm going back to just once a day starting tomorrow morning though.

The other is IC from this morning and afternoon.

Aaaaand if anyone just wants to see something funny, I also attached a picture of DS with a bunch of rubber/foam letters and numbers tucked down the back of his shirt courtesy of DD. It got to the point he was running away from her so she couldn't put anymore in. I almost peed my pants laughing.
 

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Oh my goodness that is just too cute ! Hahaha
For what it's worth , that afternoon ic is much darker than this mornings ! Keep testing ! & I agree with those that say not to look at the cb sticks .. I don't think they work the same is regular opks .. I've never caught a surge on them .. there is never a dark second line for me on those .
I actually never used to drink water either . It wasn't until about a year or two ago that I stopped drinking tea and switched to lemon water .. I could not do regular water .. it also made me gag lol . But slowly I got used to regular water and now I love it . Mainly ice water . But just try to avoid super sugary drinks as that is def not good for you and can actually dehydrate you . But I don't think that alone would stop ewcm because I've had it since I was a teen and back then I DEFINITELY didn't drink water lol. It was tea or soda :( I did have a few years where I was on and off the pill that I didn't really get ewcm but since stopping the pill this time it came back .. weird . But I would suggest taking mucinex pills . Anything with just guanifesin (spelling?) .. its recommended all over the place on the gender dreaming website im on for those that don't produce much or any ewcm .. it really helps your body produce it when it's time :) it doesn't hurt anything either .
As for your chart , let's hope it's just implantation dip ! It's the perfect time for it and sometimes people get it for 2 days . Can't wait to see your temp tmw . If it is still low I think the highs are flukes like you said and you are still awaiting O :)

Gypsy - I must have missed your post about fallback rise . Do you have any input on my chart ? :shrug:

AFM - still patiently waiting until tomorrow for my next temp . I started getting a swollen painful gum around my top right wisdom tooth area this evening .. great ! I still have not gotten any of my wisdoms in but over the summer one of them partially erupted which is the one causing issues .. I read when it partially comes in it leaves a flap of gum that can get food and germs trapped underneath and causes it to swell . It's treated with salt water rinses and amoxicillin . Hoping that's all it is .. do NOT want to deal with a wisdom tooth extraction right now ! :( gonna rinse with salt water and take one of my amoxicillin pills tonight and tomorrow that I have left over from something else and see if that helps . I know people say don't do that but that's all they are gonna give me anyways and why waste an entire day and money when I could try at home first and then if not I'll go to the doctor . Right ? :thumbup:
 
Hey CNS. I don't know whether mine was a fallback rise or not, but I had a high temp for two days and then it dropped below coverline and climbed back up. I don't know if your's would be or not sorry :-(.

AFM I'm getting tweaks and twangs and the moment and DH is having issues down there. He got eczema near his downstairs and he's using it as an excuse. Still hasn't touched me like that. Talking like he's into it then doesn't do anything about it. We really need to start actually having sex over the next 5-6 days. I'm getting incredibly frustrated. I basically attacked him this morning and he just rolled over and started looking at his phone. Nearly ready to give up again. :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
 
Also i had one of those flaps where my wisdom cut through on the top and there is a mouthwash called Savcol here that is really good to help keeping it clean under there. I've had my wisdom through for over 5-6 years and it's not caused me many issues.
 

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