Vitamin B6 - Lengthen luteal phase or increase progesterone

[joeys3453]

bean! how are you doing? we have an appointment i believe on the 22nd with the specialist. so we will see how that goes.

 

[hasti2011]

Hey everyone it's been ages since I've posted on this thread me and my partner was trying to conceive for nearly two years. We had a Mmc in 2010 an I joined this thread after reading up on vitamin b complex. I started taking it once a day along with 100mg of clomid (this was our fifth round anmd we was told it wasn't working) my progesterone went from the consistent 4.1 to 158.1.

A few days later I got my bfp we had our 12 week scan and found out not only am I pregnant (I was doubting it) but were expecting triplets,

Hang in there and it will happen and I would highly recommend vitamin b complex xx

wow that is amazing. congratulation and happy & healthy .

 

[HWPG]

Hi all, I used b vit complex last month and had a beautiful temp, pos opk, etc. This month, my temps are all over the map! I *think* I had ovulation bleeding and def ewcm but I haven't had a pos opk yet, and no temp shift (not that I could tell!). I'm lost - has anyone else had anything like this? Crazy temps and all signs of O, but no pos opk? Can b vit affect these things? Also, if we did every other day, is that enough? A shred of hope would be nice

 

[LLPM]

Hwpg, I think we just need to expect crazy cycles every now & again! My cycles had been super regular for ages, then randomly I had a 52day cycle with no confirmed ovulation! I think I heard before that b-complex can delay ovulation too. Just keep temping and checking CM, then you won't miss it! Every other day Is fine!

 

[bubbles81]

Hey everyone

Bean - I have tried to check CP and CM on previous cycles and didn't really find it helpful...and in the 2ww my CM always seems to be Like lotion but clumpy and abit sticky (sorry tmi) so I record it on FF as sticky but on all the pregnancy charts I see they tend to have creamy CM IN 2ww so I don't really like checking now!

I think I'll take vit B for all of my next cycle n see if that helps..one of the reasons I stopped at O was because I didn't want it to interfere with CD21 bloods.

HWPG - I don't know if it had anythin to do with vit B but my OPK was abit strange this month. It took 2 days to get from a faint line to a full positive when it normally takes about 6-8 hours.

ATM I am 7dpo and trying not to symptom spot...I was going to stop temping today but woke up at the right time do thought I may as well do it!

How is everyone else doing? xxx

 

[Kellysmom]

Ladies, is it ok if I join your discussion? I can't seem to find any information on this, and I'm hoping you can help me. I started taking a B-100 complex about two weeks ago (one week before O). I am now 7 dpo. I don't have a short LP and I'm unsure if my progesterone is low, but I do have spotting starting around 11 dpo until AF. Nothing has helped the spotting, so I thought I'd give the B6 and such a try. Anyway, it has sent my poor body into a frenzy! I'm moody and irritable, really crampy, nauseous, achy, my bb's hurt like heck, and my CM has all but dried up! It's like PMS overdrive but a week early! Is this normal? Only time will tell if it will help the spotting, but if these side effects continue I'm not sure it's worth it. I hope you ladies can help!!

 

[bubbles81]

Welcome Kellysmom
I'm sorry the vit B complex is giving u horrible side effects...I only took it until FF confirmed O n I didnt get any side effects apart from the bright yellow wee! I do normally spot from about 10/11dpo but Im only 8dpo today so I'll have to let u know if it's helped with the spotting! I hope u start feeling better soon xxx

 

[Kellysmom]

Bubbles, thanks for the reply. I "think" I might have figured out the problem. Maybe you ladies can help verify? B6 is supposed to aid in the metabolism of Estrogen. This is how it raises progesterone. I've been taking 100mg since one week before ovulation, which is no where near the maximum dose, but is apparently too much? I think it has metabolized so much Estrogen that I am now progesterone dominant with very little Estrogen in my body. This is bad, because Estrogen also helps build the lining of the uterus. Now I'm trying to decide if I should stop the B vitamins for the rest of my cycle, or just lower the dosage to 50 mg from here on out. What do you ladies think? I'm sorry for all the questions!

 

[bubbles81]

Sorry I can't help u with that one Kellymom..I don't actually know wat the vit B does...I started taking the complex 100 this cycle as ppl on here said it might help with the spotting before AF so I thought I'd give ur a go! I stopped taking it when I O'd, partly as some ppl on here said they do that n partly as I was having my bloods took on CD21 and didn't want anything to interfere with the result. Some ppl do take them all cycle tho..I don't know I suppose everyone is different so if they are not working for u then try something else?? Where did u find the info on vit B? Could u post a link as I'm quite interested n I struggled to find info on wat it does whilst u r TTC.

Maybe someone else has some info?? xxx

 

[Faithlovehope]

Hey everyone, I took vit b complex from the day af started to the day I got my bfp then continued until I was twelve weeks. We also bd from day af finished to the day af was due (we did a test a few days later and as I said it's triplets!)

The clomid wasn't working before and this was the only thing we did differently so I'd reccommend it, fingers crossed for everyones bfp! Xx

 

[HWPG]

Hey everyone, I took vit b complex from the day af started to the day I got my bfp then continued until I was twelve weeks. We also bd from day af finished to the day af was due (we did a test a few days later and as I said it's triplets!)

oh my goodness, you two must have been exhausted! although i'm considering this strategy myself....

 

[Faithlovehope]

Lol yes but we'd been trying for what seemed like forever and thought atleast we'll definately hit ovulation time when needs must as they say xx

 

[bubbles81]

Hey everyone, I took vit b complex from the day af started to the day I got my bfp then continued until I was twelve weeks. We also bd from day af finished to the day af was due (we did a test a few days later and as I said it's triplets!)

oh my goodness, you two must have been exhausted! although i'm considering this strategy myself....

Lol I would love to try that strategy but it's bad enough gettin my OH to BD on my fertile days! He hates it when 'we have to do it' as its so much better when it's ur own choice xxx

 

[HWPG]

Lol I would love to try that strategy but it's bad enough gettin my OH to BD on my fertile days! He hates it when 'we have to do it' as its so much better when it's ur own choice xxx

yep, i was thinking the same thing.... also thinking about how to convince *myself* to go every night.... on another note, do people use FF? i'm using the free trial VIP edition, but wondering if i should purchase the next 90 days or just go to the basic edition... thoughts?

 

[bubbles81]

I use FF I think it's really useful...I think I purchased 12 months of it via a special offer on their Facebook page. That was prob 6 months ago but check on their page to see if they have any new offers..u could message them n ask...I can't remember wat I paid but it was alot less than wat was quoted on FF as I was considering not paying for it...glad I did tho xxx

 

[Faithlovehope]

Yes I agree that it can become a tad routine when your coUnting days an charting temps but I think that helped too when we bd everyday it was more about what else we could try ( sorry alot of info) it became about us an not baby making xx

 

[Khloeee]

Hi girls, I've been reading through this thread and think I will be joining you.

I have a luteal phase of 7/8 days. I have had two early miscarriages in the past four months, the last one happened this past weekend. I'm convinced that my short luteal phase means that my uterine lining has not had enough time to prepare for optimum implantation, and I am not able to hold on to a pregnancy because of this.

I have ordered a 100mg B vit complex. Am also going to try Agnus Castus for the first part of my cycle, and am taking a low dose aspirin every day too. Also considering progesterone cream on top of all of this but might see how I get on with the vitamin B complex first.

Had no problems conceiving my son. I have a feeling my hormones have been out of whack since having him. I had a LOT of postnatal hair loss starting from when he was 8 months and lasting over a year (it's only just got better really). Should have had my thyroid, etc tested ages ago but I just put it off because it didn't seem too much of a problem. GP has ordered these tests now, will have a blood test next week once miscarriage symptoms have settled.

After two miscarriages, I will be terrified when I next get pregnant. I really want my progesterone levels to be monitored, but GP says they won't do that unless I've had 3 miscarriages.... so self-diagnosis and self-treatment with B6 and (maybe) progesterone cream it is then!

 

[bubbles81]

Hi Khloeee
Really sorry to hear about ur losses..big hugs to u xx
It's good that ur GP is finally doing some checks for u..is he going to check ur CD21 bloods for u? I think that checks ur progesterone level...I had it done last wk but not had the results yet..GP is also taking CD3 bloods as well - I don't really know wat this is for but she said she will be comparing the results. xx

 

[Kellysmom]

Hi girls, I've been reading through this thread and think I will be joining you.

I have a luteal phase of 7/8 days. I have had two early miscarriages in the past four months, the last one happened this past weekend. I'm convinced that my short luteal phase means that my uterine lining has not had enough time to prepare for optimum implantation, and I am not able to hold on to a pregnancy because of this.

I have ordered a 100mg B vit complex. Am also going to try Agnus Castus for the first part of my cycle, and am taking a low dose aspirin every day too. Also considering progesterone cream on top of all of this but might see how I get on with the vitamin B complex first.

Had no problems conceiving my son. I have a feeling my hormones have been out of whack since having him. I had a LOT of postnatal hair loss starting from when he was 8 months and lasting over a year (it's only just got better really). Should have had my thyroid, etc tested ages ago but I just put it off because it didn't seem too much of a problem. GP has ordered these tests now, will have a blood test next week once miscarriage symptoms have settled.

After two miscarriages, I will be terrified when I next get pregnant. I really want my progesterone levels to be monitored, but GP says they won't do that unless I've had 3 miscarriages.... so self-diagnosis and self-treatment with B6 and (maybe) progesterone cream it is then!

You know, I'm really starting to wonder about this whole estrogen/progesterone thing! Post-natal hairloss is normally due to an imbalance of estrogen.... or the lack thereof to be precise. As such, it would sound more like you have a progesterone dominance issue, instead of an issue of too little progesterone. I only say this because I've tried self diagnosing myself because my doctor won't do anything either. I've tried progesterone cream and it does NOT work. I've also tried depo, and it made me bleed for 6 months straight. The B-100 has turned my hormones upside down and now seems like I also have a progesterone dominance issue. I'm starting to wonder if its because my estrogen has been too low, and not my progesterone. In fact, in my research I found that low estrogen can also lead to mid month spotting and bleeding due to a thin and weak uterine lining!

So.... now that I'm off my soapbox I'm staring to think we know more than our doctors!

 

[Khloeee]

bubbles81 - I asked about checking progesterone, but they won't do it unless I've had 3 losses.

Kellymom - that's interesting stuff. I haven't looked into Estrogen dominance at all, but I will now. I'm nervous about self-medicating due to the things you mentioned. I don't want to further muck up my cycle, but at the same time, if I do nothing, then nothing will change so I feel I HAVE to try something. I've been looking a lot into short luteal phases, progesterone, and prolactin over the past few days. This seems like the most likely problem, especially as I'm still breastfeeding my toddler and I know that can affect prolactin levels too. Also, I never have spotting or irregular bleeds, I just have a short cycle overall. But I will look at estrogen symtoms now too.

The hair loss has stopped now. One other gross thing that I've only just linked to possibly having a hormone imbalance is that since my son was born, I've started getting thick hairs growing on my neck (under my chin)...yuck!

So for now, I will give the B vitamins a go, try and cut my son down to 2 BFs a day (as opposed to 4 or 5) and cut down on all the sugary junk food I've become accustomed to eating. I HAVE to feel proactive about this otherwise I think I will have a breakdown, the miscarriages have been tough.