Vitex, Evening Primrose Oil, Progesterone Cream

[Blythe]

I'm 38 and my naturopath prescribed progesterone cream daily with the exception of CD's 1-5. So I take it while ovulating. Not sure the difference it makes?

I would be inclined to go back to your naturopath and check this! Progesterone will delay/stop ovulation. I use the cream but only after ovulation is confirmed, never before. Progesterone is used in some bc pills to stop pregnancy so this is duff advice unless she wants you to use it for a couple of months which is sometimes the case if you want to regulate menses etc

 

[2have4kids]

I'm 38 and my naturopath prescribed progesterone cream daily with the exception of CD's 1-5. So I take it while ovulating. Not sure the difference it makes?

I would be inclined to go back to your naturopath and check this! Progesterone will delay/stop ovulation. I use the cream but only after ovulation is confirmed, never before. Progesterone is used in some bc pills to stop pregnancy so this is duff advice unless she wants you to use it for a couple of months which is sometimes the case if you want to regulate menses etc

Unless she has severe PCOS, but it's still a bit odd that a naturopath would prescribe this over a fertility/gyno doctor.

 

[Blythe]

I'm 38 and my naturopath prescribed progesterone cream daily with the exception of CD's 1-5. So I take it while ovulating. Not sure the difference it makes?

I would be inclined to go back to your naturopath and check this! Progesterone will delay/stop ovulation. I use the cream but only after ovulation is confirmed, never before. Progesterone is used in some bc pills to stop pregnancy so this is duff advice unless she wants you to use it for a couple of months which is sometimes the case if you want to regulate menses etc

Unless she has severe PCOS, but it's still a bit odd that a naturopath would prescribe this over a fertility/gyno doctor.

Sorry i take back my advice then....perhaps there is a very good reason she has advised you take pre ovulation.

 

[2have4kids]

Blyth, when I first heard this I was really taken back. How they could make BCP out of progesterone and then put PCOS women on it and it helps them have a cycle. It's just that PCOS produces SO much testosterone, estrogen (I think) and almost no progesterone I've heard that some really struggle. Like they get facial hair and other things that testosterone is bad for.

 

[Blythe]

Blyth, when I first heard this I was really taken back. How they could make BCP out of progesterone and then put PCOS women on it and it helps them have a cycle. It's just that PCOS produces SO much testosterone, estrogen (I think) and almost no progesterone I've heard that some really struggle. Like they get facial hair and other things that testosterone is bad for.

Thanks for info...😃.perhaps that's the reason it's been prescribed. Hormones are so complex!

 

[notrustyyet]

Blythe, your cycles seem good, haven't shortened yet like mine. You say your temps are low all month, have you had you TSH/thyroid checked? What was it? My thyroid is still apparently functioning normal, but I do have high antibodies, so it's a matter of time...my TSH test before pregnancy bounced around from 2.5 to 2.7. I felt cold much of the time and had a lot of hair falling out, but maybe the DHEA contributed....

I usually began temping CD 6 and my temps Pre O (vaginally, MUCH easier BTW) averaged 97.3-97.5 F, sometimes were 97.2, and right after O would jump to 98, rise a bit and by 5 or 6 DPO usually got to 98.5-.6. The month of my BFP, temps stayed up at that level, and the times I tried Black Cohosh I also had triphasic temps.

I did try aspirin as well as other things esp. like L-Arginine (a nitric oxide donor) to aid implantation until I read this:


https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2009-0406-200411/boomsma.pdf

Go to the bottom of pg 27 where they discuss therapies to improve implantation and results, was very interesting.

 

[Blythe]

Notrusty.....that report is v.interesting. Many thanks for drawing my attention to it...im going to drop the l-arginine and only have 5 aspirin left.

I have just woken up and temped vaginally and orally with two different thermometers and got a much higher temp V.....so thats what m going to do from now on. It will make this months chart look a bit misleading but i dont care.

thank you

 

[notrustyyet]

I've also compared oral and vaginal temps. Oral always lower. Seems vaginally more consistent/accurate. You could have been sleeping with mouth open etc.

 

[2have4kids]

https://igitur-archive.library.uu.nl/dissertations/2009-0406-200411/boomsma.pdf

Go to the bottom of pg 27 where they discuss therapies to improve implantation and results, was very interesting.

Excellent read - thank you!

 

[Briss]

Notrusty, thank you for the link, that's a very interesting study. I have reconsidered taking arginine this cycle after reading it, I have been taking it last two cycles in TWW but it did not make any positive changes