whos wrong?

[TriChick]

I agree that it's the mother fault for allowing her daughter to do it.....

However I think she has a point about individuality. Growing up is a tough and exciting time. Why shouldn't people express themselves and experiment whilst their still young? As long as an individuals behaviour is good and they work hard then I don't see the issue with a little individuality. Better that than a 'natural' looking student who bullies others or is continuously disruptive in lessons (just an example) behaviour is more important than appearance in my opinion.

As for someone saying one of the rules was that males couldn't have hair past their shoulders is just ridiculous don't understand that at all, to me that's just sexism.

Unfortunately, in the US many of the dress codes enforced in schools are due to either gang activity or other disruptive behavior.

Edit to add: Most public schools here do not have uniforms, so the dress code tends to be a necessity.

 

[Dragonfly]

School where you are encouraged to be yourself except you arnt allowed to. They done this whole suspending students here for their hair to short in the boys school. I never understood how your hair effected your education. But that is school, conform and be all the same. Plenty of times I was told to remove my make up and told off for platform shoes. We never had punishments though. Personally I think this is silly but it does go against their rules. She will just have to accept she cant do stuff like that while in school.

 

[omfgski]

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[Dragonfly]

They had a box of spares in our school for people who didnt wear the right uniform. They where lost and found jumpers , ties etc no one claimed. Ours was the only school that accepted the gypsies so they where not fully dressed sometimes. I lost my tie once and had to borrow one from the box. I think school punishments are weird though as we never had them. Well only if you didnt do pe you had to do a work sheet. And I was isolated to do my exams only because they thought I was going to protest the grades they would only allow lower classes.

 

[Tasha]

I agree that she should of followed the rules.

I really dont get the point of this rule though.

 

[faun]

If the rule is natural hair only then the mother and child must have known and deliberatley chanced it thinking nothing would happen. If she has to spend 8 weeks in isolation "disrupting" her education she could just trim the pink tips off its only an inch soon grow back. I can understand the school can't let her get away with it as even though it is only the tips the next child will go all over or rainbow coloured etc thinking they will get away with it too. It is a shame she can't "express" herself but i'm sure out of school she can wear what she wants also if she wants pink bits get some clip in extensions and fake it till she can have the real thing.

 

[smileyfaces]

Although I agree that rules are rules, I dont agree with the fact she was put into isolation, ready to be kept there until the colour is gone.

When I was at school, I was put into isolation on a few occasions and it consisted of being put into a 'booth' that was painted black so all you could see were black walls. You were not allowed to turn around or speak to anyone. At break ti e you stayed in your seat in silence and at dinner you were escorted to the canteen to pick your lunch and then taken back to your seat in isolation to eat in silence.

That would never ever have been used for a bit of hair dye. Detention? Yes, maybe. But not isolation. It is too far.

 

[mum22ttc#3]

Although I agree that rules are rules, I dont agree with the fact she was put into isolation, ready to be kept there until the colour is gone.

When I was at school, I was put into isolation on a few occasions and it consisted of being put into a 'booth' that was painted black so all you could see were black walls. You were not allowed to turn around or speak to anyone. At break ti e you stayed in your seat in silence and at dinner you were escorted to the canteen to pick your lunch and then taken back to your seat in isolation to eat in silence.

That would never ever have been used for a bit of hair dye. Detention? Yes, maybe. But not isolation. It is too far.

But if she had just been given detention then she would have gone back to school the next day with the hair dye still in for another 8 weeks. Other kids would have then thought 'well if she can then so can I'. Where does it stop?

I think Isolation is acceptable if either the kid or the Mum isn't willing to rectify the problem, which as another poster said isn't hard, either trim the ends of or re dye to a natural colour. (Which the Mum has now done so that her daughter can now go back to school normally.)

I'm not saying that I agree with the rule because personally I don't see it as I big thing myself, what I agree with is following the rules that the school have in place, rules that the parent would have been well aware of.

 

[smileyfaces]

Oh no, dont get me wrong, I agree with you. Rules are there for a reason, she has broken the rules (more than likely trying her luck, I dont believe for one minute that she didnt think there would be any implications) and so needs to be punished.

I just think that there should have been a more suitable punishment. Isolation should be reserved for more serious cases (IMO). What I did in school would more than warrant a spell in isolation because I was really quite naughty.

But to me, personally, a bit of pink hair dye shouldnt be punished this harshly. In my opinion I think she should have maybe had daily detention (dinner time and after school) until the dye was gone. Isolation means that she is missing her lessons which is unfair.

 

[special_kala]

Dentention wouldnt be a real deterrent though and would encourage other kids to ignore the rules.

I wouldn't send the girls to a school that wasnt strict on uniform/hair. I think keeping appearance the same helps keep bullying down. We still had the normal groups chavs/grungers etc but the segregation between the groups was nothng compared to my DHs school which was non uniform. We were still individuals just in the same uniform and no one had crazy hair.

 

[TriChick]

Although I agree that rules are rules, I dont agree with the fact she was put into isolation, ready to be kept there until the colour is gone.

When I was at school, I was put into isolation on a few occasions and it consisted of being put into a 'booth' that was painted black so all you could see were black walls. You were not allowed to turn around or speak to anyone. At break ti e you stayed in your seat in silence and at dinner you were escorted to the canteen to pick your lunch and then taken back to your seat in isolation to eat in silence.

That would never ever have been used for a bit of hair dye. Detention? Yes, maybe. But not isolation. It is too far.

Holy crap! I'be never seen a booth like that in the States. Were you sitting in the dark??

 

[smileyfaces]

Dentention wouldnt be a real deterrent though and would encourage other kids to ignore the rules.

I have to disagree. Daily detention would be enough to teach me a lesson. Think about it from their perspective, they will be losing their dinner hour (the only part of the day they get to socialise properly) and then also have to stay after school. This way she would also still be attending very important curricular lessons. Isolating her would mean she misses her lessons which is not right.

However, in this situation, it seems as though the mother wouldnt have agreed to detentions either seeing as though she actually encouraged her daughter to dye her hair in the first place

 

[smileyfaces]

Although I agree that rules are rules, I dont agree with the fact she was put into isolation, ready to be kept there until the colour is gone.

When I was at school, I was put into isolation on a few occasions and it consisted of being put into a 'booth' that was painted black so all you could see were black walls. You were not allowed to turn around or speak to anyone. At break ti e you stayed in your seat in silence and at dinner you were escorted to the canteen to pick your lunch and then taken back to your seat in isolation to eat in silence.

That would never ever have been used for a bit of hair dye. Detention? Yes, maybe. But not isolation. It is too far.

Holy crap! I'be never seen a booth like that in the States. Were you sitting in the dark??

Nooo! It was a row of booths facing the wall and had sides going right up to the ceiling so you couldn't see the next person. The back of the 'booth' was open so that the teacher looking after all of the kids in isolation could peer over your shoulder to make sure you were doing whatever you were supposed to be (writing lines, reading a textbook etc etc).

 

[mum22ttc#3]

Dentention wouldnt be a real deterrent though and would encourage other kids to ignore the rules.

I have to disagree. Daily detention would be enough to teach me a lesson. Think about it from their perspective, they will be losing their dinner hour (the only part of the day they get to socialise properly) and then also have to stay after school. This way she would also still be attending very important curricular lessons. Isolating her would mean she misses her lessons which is not right.

However, in this situation, it seems as though the mother wouldnt have agreed to detentions either seeing as though she actually encouraged her daughter to dye her hair in the first place

I get what your saying but would it not work the same then if another pupil came in wearing a tracksuit and trainers? More than likely they would be again put into isolation or sent home to change into the correct uniform, I'm not sure why her hair should be treated any differently, her and her Mum both choose to disregard the rules and should therefore face the consequences.
As for missing school work, when we was at school the work was sent with us and there was always a teacher around to help out. It might not quite be the same but I really don't think it is going to do no harm for a day or two, which is what it would have been had her Mum just sorted it in the first place rather than selling her 'story' to the press and trying to hang it out.

 

[smileyfaces]

But she was to be placed in isolation for as long as she had the color in her hair? And I totally disagree that having work sent to you in isolation is adequate. It is not the same as having a teacher trained in a specific subject stand in front of you for 50 mins every lesson and actually teach the subject and guide you through the work.

Yes, if it had been tracksuit or trainers then that is much easier to come by a resolution. Unfortunately for the school, they cannot physically do anything about the hair colour therefore punishment is required and quite rightly so. I just dont think that the punishment chosen was the correct one, and that's just me speaking on a personal level after being placed in isolation for things much more serious.

I'll never forget in highschool, me and my best friend thought we would look nice to plaster loads of bright pink blusher on our cheeks and wear loads of red lippy to school The first teacher to see us was my incredibly strict dance teacher who quite literally frog marched us to the loo's to make us wipe it all off! Not the same as the hair dye situation but thought I would share anyway

 

[special_kala]

The school were passing the responsibility back to the parent (where it should be in my eyes). The mum first off should have looked at the school rules before okaying it and if the girl did it behind her back then she should have made her sort it out rather then calling the daily mail.

Ultimatly the parents were choosing to keep her in isolation that long

 

[special_kala]

Going to a strict school has probable made me have high expectations of what a school will and will not allow.

We were not allowed make up, our head of year had wipes in her office if they could tell you were wearing makeup you were made to take it off. We had to stand up when a teacher entered the room, always call them sir or miss, proper tie/skirt length, only natural hair, boys couldnt have hair too long or too short, blazer on at all times unless summer.

That all seems normal to me so the punishment for this just fits what i would expect

 

[AP]

I disagree with the rules tbh. What has hair colour or anything physical like this have to do with education?
It's hair?! It baffles me, it baffles my mum too. Uniform, ok, I get that. It's a security thing for a start. But hair?

I don't really have an opinion on who is right or wrong, but I do think schools go OTT

Then again my school was all cool about these things

 

[Tasha]

For me isolation was much less of punishment, I use to enjoy sitting out of the classroom with no teacher nagging at me. Detention would of been a whole lot worse.

I also dont see the point in the rule. How does it improve your education not to have pink hair dye on the tips of your hair?

 

[AP]

I mean I am proper clever now