42.3 and trying for #4

[maxxiandniko]

Congratulations to OP Fandabby on getting pregnant so soon after posting this thread and having a beautiful little girl, you give us all hope... so sorry to all still ttc and those who have lost babies since

Hi all, I have managed to get to page 24 so far I have a few to catch up on and will call back in a few days.. just wondering if I could join, I am 41,42 in Dec and Have 3 grown up children but had 5 chemical pregnancies since last Oct. Oct 20th 2013 was day of my 1st mc and came totally out of the blue... it was our first with my partner of 2.5 years. We are currently 6dpo and I chart like an obsessive loon... im also a poas addict and started with ic's today (why???) obviously blank...

Bit about my tests, apparently all is ok..I was told that no reason for my mc and next time I get a BFP to start taking 75mg Aspirin daily and contact the EPAU asap and my gp. 2 months ago I had day 21 test and it was 42 and that was a non pregnant cycle. Then last cycle I did not feel like I ov nor did my chart seem to really show it, this cycle I had a very painful ov and temp rise has been great, im now in agony with my BS and TONS of creamy cm Im thinking my progesterone was high again this cycle and just hoping I managed to catch my egg.

I went to see my GP monday(Exactly a yr to the day I lost my first baby) I was emotional and asked if I could just see my consultant once more to ask if I can have a scrape to help with implantation and his words were The consultant does not want to waste anymore of her time with people YOUR age, just accept it.

Im Gobsmacked! I've not even told OH, I have kept it to myself till just now and just repeating it here has made my heart sink again... how can someone be so cruel.. he knows about all my mc And they are making me REQUEST my 5mg folic acid monthly.. so I am now changing my gp surgery.

Oh my. That was not ok to say at all. I'm turning 43 and doing a cycle right now but then again I feel like they're doing one because they feel sorry for me ha ha. Can you find another consultant?

 

[maxxiandniko]

Maaxi, that sucks about missing the baby aspirin! Can you speak to something about needing better communication? Maybe just to make it clear that you don't want to miss something again.

Charlie, sounds like you are coming along. Hope you hear the heartbeat soon and that gives you some reassurance.

Happy Birthday Marathon! You may be 45, but you are one fertile woman. Don't stress, just take it easy. A friend of a friend just recently fell pregnant naturally at 44 and she'll deliver at 45

I'm very happy with the vitex. I took my blood pressure at work and it's normal. I think I was stressed at MD's office. The cited moved my ovulation date back to CD 12 this month so my cycles should be back on track. IVF is definitely NOT covered. Insurance company called back. It's frustrating because we spend several hundred dollars a month on insurance here in the States. Oh well! I still have an appointment on 11-11. I'm sure they'll suggest IUIs.

That really sucks about the insurance. I've had more mishaps since the baby aspirin but this time it wasn't the nurse. I started my Lupron 2 days ago (? - maybe the question mark is the problem ie my brain isn't working) and was supposed to start twice a day injections yesterday. Well it was chaotic here in the morning getting the twins to preschool and getting to work (should tell me something about why I shouldn't be trying to add a third I guess) and I forgot my AM dose. I do my PM dose, move on to the Follistim then on to the Menopur and realize that the insurance company didn't send me my needles. Now it's true that if they had scheduled my injection teaching at the right time maybe I would of caught this but honestly probably not. So I page the nurse on call and she helps me do a bootleg version of the mixing and injecting with instructions to go to the office in the morning to get the right syringes (why don't they just give you the syringes to begin with then?). Anyway at 3:30 in the morning I wake up in a panic and realize that I missed my AM dose of Lupron. I couldn't bring myself to page the nurse on call so I decide to do the injection and to also do the AM injection as planned to get back on track. I called my nurse who told me to forget this morning's dose since it's probably not a big deal (probably) and to just get on track. So I'm on track now but realizing that my potential future list for Reason For Cycle Failure is growing. Is someone trying to tell me something like let this whole thing go already?

 

[2plus1more]

Welcome Soanxious! I'm very sorry to hear about your losses. Secondly, it was NOT appropriate for your GP to say that to you. You and I are the same age and any appointment I've been to (midwife, acupuncture), everyone has been supportive. Is it possible to change your GP? I'm sorry, but that was a highly unprofessional response from your doctor.

Maaxi, I know exactly how to feel. I have a six and ten year old and life his very hectic with homework, activities, and work. Sometimes I ask myself why I'd bring more stress into our lives and how could we handle an infant? But I tell myself we'd get through it (like anything else we have to deal with) and I might as well at least try to have another one. I think doubts are normal, but remember, stay positive! Can you maybe write out your own schedule with the drugs? And everything you need? Sometimes I find a schedule written in my own handwriting helps me as opposed to someone else's schedule.

 

[Soanxious]

Thanks Both, I am changing my Dr's tomorrow as we have 12 Dr's in my practice and everyone of them are horrid, for one reason or another they are very bad dr's so I am changing to one that has been recommended to me.

My consultant was lovely to me saying im still young in baby making years just I will struggle a bit more, but the GP's have been well how can I say is.. Sickening is how I feel towards them.

Im 7dpo and feeling totally out..and done an ic arghh why? obviously white lol.

 

[maxxiandniko]

Welcome Soanxious! I'm very sorry to hear about your losses. Secondly, it was NOT appropriate for your GP to say that to you. You and I are the same age and any appointment I've been to (midwife, acupuncture), everyone has been supportive. Is it possible to change your GP? I'm sorry, but that was a highly unprofessional response from your doctor.

Maaxi, I know exactly how to feel. I have a six and ten year old and life his very hectic with homework, activities, and work. Sometimes I ask myself why I'd bring more stress into our lives and how could we handle an infant? But I tell myself we'd get through it (like anything else we have to deal with) and I might as well at least try to have another one. I think doubts are normal, but remember, stay positive! Can you maybe write out your own schedule with the drugs? And everything you need? Sometimes I find a schedule written in my own handwriting helps me as opposed to someone else's schedule.

By the time I make my own schedule this whole thing will be over ha ha. I think I've got it down. It won't change until Saturday. Then I'll have to figure it out again.

 

[Soanxious]

can you set alarm reminders on mobile phone? I do for my meds.

 

[maxxiandniko]

can you set alarm reminders on mobile phone? I do for my meds.

I may do that if the protocol changes Saturday.

 

[maxxiandniko]

Another mishap! I injected myself with the Menopur mixing needle. Do you know how big that needle is?! I'm guessing the stuff got in but you should see the bruise. I'm really nervous for Saturday. Thankfully my life is so busy (why I distractedly used the wrong needle I guess) that Saturday will be here before I know it.

 

[charlie15]

Welcome soanxious, I have met you before in other threads I am sure. Sorry about all of your losses and the way you were treated by your GP was disgusting. Glad you are changing practices.

Maxi, hope things settle down with your schedule soon. How long do you have to inject for?

I have had an exciting morning in that I have found baby's heart beat. I am 9+5 today and now very but still not quite believing it. With my dd I never heard her HB until in the 2nd tri as I had an anterior placenta and then obviously last time there was no HB. So still pinching myself and will try again next week before I do it with oh. Don't want to get his hopes up an then no be able to find it!

Hope all other ladies are keeping well x

 

[maxxiandniko]

Welcome soanxious, I have met you before in other threads I am sure. Sorry about all of your losses and the way you were treated by your GP was disgusting. Glad you are changing practices.

Maxi, hope things settle down with your schedule soon. How long do you have to inject for?

I have had an exciting morning in that I have found baby's heart beat. I am 9+5 today and now very but still not quite believing it. With my dd I never heard her HB until in the 2nd tri as I had an anterior placenta and then obviously last time there was no HB. So still pinching myself and will try again next week before I do it with oh. Don't want to get his hopes up an then no be able to find it!

Hope all other ladies are keeping well x

Awww congrats! No idea how long. The injections go between 8 and 12 days and then you trigger. Monday will be Day 8. I have an ultrasound tomorrow and Monday for sure but beyond that I don't know anything else.

 

[maxxiandniko]

I'm losing my mind. I did my Lupron shot this AM at work and left the bathroom with my pants unbuttoned and unzipped. Now granted I had a sweater poncho on but still. This whole thing just needs to be over soon. I was reading my protocol a little more carefully and read that average stim days is 10 so forget my dream of ending Monday. Let's just hope it doesn't go to 12.

 

[maxxiandniko]

Not great news today. I have follicles but they only like 3 of them. I continue with everything until Monday and go back for another sono and hope that a few more are likeable.

 

[maxxiandniko]

Getting worse. I was told to prepare for an IUI. I go back Wednesday for more bloodwork and another sono but I was told not to expect to get to retrieval. I'm sad. I kept saying that it wouldn't work but a part of me was hopeful.

 

[charlie15]

Sorry maxi. I don't understand though, what about the 3 follicles? Why IUI instead of retrieval and IVF. Sorry for my questions, I just don't understand all of this.

 

[Soanxious]

Im so sorry to hear that Maxi

 

[maxxiandniko]

They don't like to do retrievals with less than 4 follicles because there won't be enough eggs. So as of now I have 2 good sized follicles and a bunch of others that are either slowly growing or really slowly growing. If at Wednesday's appt they still see only 2 good sized follicles they will convert me to an IUI. I got the feeling from the dr that if there's 3 good sized follicles then there will be a debate and if there's 4 they will definitely go ahead with the retrieval. It is possible for a follicle to have a growth spurt but the dr was telling me to prepare for an IUI this weekend. Now could that work? In theory yes but obviously ivf is the better way to go. It's better that I have the 2 follicles otherwise I wouldn't be able to do anything but still.

 

[Soanxious]

What is IUI...

 

[2plus1more]

Sorry to hear your news, but there is still hope either way. I assume if you go the IUI route, then you can try for IVF again, right?

 

[charlie15]

Hoping at least 2 more follicles grow by Wednesday Maxi x

 

[maxxiandniko]

Oh my god it got worse! No I wouldn't do ivf after IUI. This is it for me. But IUI isn't an option anymore - my nurse emailed and told me that my bloodwork from today showed that I ovulated. So I'm in the 1% of women for whom Lupron doesn't do it's job of suppressing ovulation. So as I understand it I will have to start another cycle. I don't know when yet. I have to stop all my meds and will bleed at some point shortly but I'm not sure if I'd start then or wait till the next cycle. I'll hear more about it tomorrow. All that work...