A group for TTC#1 and had more than one loss?

[Emmediva]

Sounds like a good plan, since you took the same amount for the 5 cd's I hope the doctors can tell you something or better yet, give you something to take. Is your OH taking anything?

 

[Nicki123]

Hi everyone - I'm back! So much to catch up on here.

Beach, how are you doing? You sound like a strong cookie and I'm sure you are going to get through this. I really hope that further tests uncover something for you.

Soop - welcome back from your hols too. Sounds like you had a fab holiday with lots of at the right time. So hoping for a lucky holiday / birthday bfp for you.

Emme - yay for team blue! It must be so exciting to find out the sex. Happy shopping

Thurl good luck with trying the 'natural' route. If the vits aren't working and are messing with your cycle it can't hurt to give it a try can it. Fx for you. I hope you had a lovely anniversary x

Monro, I know what you mean about being jealous about others. We all seem to be surrounded by pg peeps don't we. My brother called to tell me his wife is pg literally an hour after I got my last bfp. I don't think I'd have handled it so well if I hadn't have just seen that line. Some people do have it so lucky, my SIL only realised she was pg at 9 weeks and when she went for her 12 week scan was already 14 weeks. How lovely would it be if that happened. I'm at just over 6 weeks and going slowly mad!!

Ambi, I so know what you mean about not wanting to waste an ovulation, its so hard. but I think it comes to a point where missing one cycle might be worth it if it brings you some answers. I had tests after my 3rd mmc, all 'normal', but we took a break for about 6 months and I have to say it did us the world of good. Fx for you.

NTAT, how are you bearing up Hun? Sounds as though your holiday has come at the perfect time. Enjoy.

Wookie, horsey, ayclobes, NSNS, lady...eek everyone I've missed, hello lovely ladies.

Afm, Had a fab time in Italy, i love it there. Spent two nights in Rome then 6 nights on the coast staying with a friend's family. Lots of relaxing and beach time. The only thing that tainted the holiday at all was my big fat negative head. Unfortunately I had no symptoms whatsoever. Nothing. I did the usual google '6 weeks pregnant no symptoms' and it was full of of 'I have no symptoms, just sore boobs' or 'I feel nothing, just tiredness' and I wanted to yell at the ladies writing this that THEY ARE SYMPTOMS. I actually had none! Zilch.I spent pretty much the whole week convinced the pg has already gone wrong. I've had trouble sleeping for over thinking. I just wish there was a switch to turn my head off.

Anyway, feeling better now I'm back. Being at works helps as it keeps my mind off it, and I have had a teeny bit of queasiness yesterday and today just mildly but I love it. Dr is doing hcg tests so by next week we should know if things are heading in the right direction. Will try not to go mad between now and then. X

 

[thurl30]

Thanks Emme

Nicki welcome back hun good to hear you had a lovely hols, try not to worry about the symptoms, you were queasy so that's a good sign! Good to have you back

 

[Emmediva]

Nicki, welcome back, I'm glad you had fun on your vacation. Regarding the symptoms, I wouldn't worry too much, I had no symptoms at first, my boob soreness dissappeared around 5 weeks, I remember poking and prodding them trying to see if they were sore, then thinking that's what made them a little sore No morning sickness, queasiness for me till around 10 weeks or so, and then only like 3 or 4 times. No constipation either, I am as normal as ever. So you see, you don't necessarily have to have pregnancy symptoms for a pregnancy to be progressing
Welcome back

 

[thurl30]

Emme really sorry I didn't realise you asked about my OH, no he isn't taking anything, he used to take Pregnacare conception but he got fed up with that after a few months, he said they weren't worth it which to be honest I agree with after my experience taking them, he does have some macca in the cupboard but is yet to take it, I think he is a bit nervous about what it will do to him

I'm feeling a bit better today because my temp has gone back up, I feel a bit more normal again

How are you doing? is your infection getting any better?

Hope everyone else is ok

 

[Nicki123]

Thanks Emme your words are v reassuring.
Thanks Thurl.

Have noticed a teeny bit of spotting but I think it's linked to the progesterone. I don't push it in too far tho. It ranges in colour from light pink, to orangey (!), to light brown. Not that much of it but all mixed in with the progesterone gunk. I think I recall some of you ladies saying this happened to you.

I have decided to get a private scan on Sunday. I really don't want another internal one if poss, or to spend hours waiting like you have to do on the nhs, I find it such a horrible experience. So am splashing out. Feels good to have it lined up but I'm very nervous. Will be 7 weeks 2 days on Sunday.

 

[ayclobes]

Nicki yay to be back from your holiday! and i remember i spotted for a week or 2 at 6w and i was on progesterone until i was 13w. if you are spotting brown, it is usually old blood. It depends what kind of progesterone you are on too, i was on the gel stuff when i got pregnant in september and mmc nov--and i had the salmon colored discharge. I felt like i'd never get out of the 1st tri! and now, im almost halfway done with this pregnancy...time flies!

 

[Emmediva]

Thurl, I haven't really read up on Macca and male fertility so don't know much about it, I do know L-Argenine is great for sperm.

I am liking the temp spike chick!! I hope the dip was implantation, fingers crossed for you!!

I'm not sure about my UTI getting better, you see I never really had symptoms, but I have noticed today my urine is flourescent yellow weird LOL.

Nicki, I had spotting (pink/red) at 7 weeks & 9 weeks, then some bleeding (red) at 11+2, mine was related to a sensitive cervix. Ask your doctor if you may have that.

AFM, 22 weeks today!!! and feeling the baby move more every day, he is so active after I eat it's crazy! I felt him move on the outside for the first time Monday morning, and I've felt him off & on since then, he doesn't cooperate when I want to tell OH so he can feel

 

[monro84]

Emme--Both are great names any reason you picked them (family names, or just liked them ). Af might have arrived I went to the bathroom a few hrs ago and wipped and there was red but not much I put in a light flow tampon though. Hopfully this is cd 1 so I can get started with this cycle. I am going to take EPO and maca root. I'm not sure how effecive the maca root will be b/c it is GNC brand (I heard you need alot of the pills if it is not pure ). Thank you for all the info. I heard good and bad things about mucinex. I did try the robatessum (the right kind with only the ingrediant starting with a G). It did not do anything different. I tried last cycle to drink alot of water. I was dryer then then I have ever been. I tried the Fertile CM pills off amazon but only tooke them a month becasue it gave me bad cramps and heavier af. I guess we will see if EPO works. What all effects does Maca root do. I know it balances hormones, boost sex drive, and maybe gives you energy Good luck with the round ligament glad that is all it is. So great yo can feel the baby move. So funny about the bed I lol'd.. My mom actually bought something for a baby girl a little bit ago. It would be nice if that could happen. I have not bought anything though. Not pregnant yet

Did not know that about artichokes I love the hearts but like stuffed artichoke better.

Lexi--thats great not long now 15 wks or less

Thurl --thank you but I don't think it is turning into anything this month I have a good feeling about next though. Yeah your temp went back up. When are you suppose to start? FX it was the eggy getting cozy.

Nick--That is great you got a scan lined up I bet you will see your little beans heart beating away.

 

[thurl30]

Hi everyone :wave:

Nicki sending you lots and lots of luck for your scan Sunday, I don't blame you at all for getting a private one it will be much nicer, can't wait to hear about it

Emme that's great you are feeling baby move alot, lots of my friends said that when they tried to get dh to feel it the baby stopped moving, cheeky monkey hey

Monro I am 11dpo today and I don't actually know how long my LP is (this is the first cycle ever that I have been able to call myself dpo!) and my temp dropped this morning, if it's anywhere near normal then hopefully af will be here by Monday, and then I can start again. Has your af arrived yet?

I got my ultrasound appt through today, it's on 8th October. I also got a letter from my gp today to say my blood results are back and they want to discuss the results with me, I have made an appointment with them for 13th so they should have my ultrasound results as well as bloods.

Hope everyone has a lovely weekend

 

[monro84]

Thurl--Oh thats great for you finally some answers. I think by tonight if not then definitly tomorrow it should arrive. I used a light flow tampon and it was not to much on it last night. I used one this morning also and used a q tip to check and there was some red on it but not alot so if I don't start today then I guess I did O on cd 14 and that would put 15 dpo tomorrow which is the day I usually start I have been having beginning cramps I am thinking it will happen tonight. I tested the morning of 13 day or 12 dpo and nothing so I doubt I will get a bfp I guess if I have not started by tomorrow night I will test Sun moning but temp is still low so I am 99.999% sure I am not pregnant. . I am postive about next cycle though.

 

[Emmediva]

Monro, I just liked the names, my OH does not want our child to have his name, he doesn't like his name I wrote down some names I liked and OH said he liked how those sound, he also liked Jeremy but I didn't like it. We picked out names awhile back, boys and girls names since we didn't know what we were having, for girl I wanted Sophia Elizabeth or Amberly Rose/Grace. I got Macca root from GNC and it worked good for me I think Sorry you think AF is arriving, but happy you are so positive about the next cycle.

Thurl, good that you got your ultrasound appt, I hope everything's ok. Not long till that appt and the one with the results time flies.

Nicki, wishing you lots of luck for Sunday's scan!!

Hope everyone has a good weekend

 

[Ambivalent]

Beach--Thanks but I doubt it is. I think I am going to try EPO and maybe even Meca root next month I just got to find out when to take both. My fertial cm seemed no exsistant this cycle so that might have been the problem, and so did my sex drive and usually around O I am all for it so I heard meca root can increase sex drive. Tested this morning and still neg so even thought it can happen I am pretty sure I am out. Should start af Fri if I O'd on cd 13 or Sat if 14 but I am pretty sure Fri. And temp is up that high b/c I took the left over progestone this cycle start at 9dpo so I am quiting that b/c it is giving me gas cramps and bloating.
How are you doing?

I went through a phase a couple of months ago of buying pretty much any supplement anybody mentioned on this forum, including EPO. I haven't really been taking it much though until this cycle and have noticed ABUNDANT EWCM. Which is confusing as I am only 9 days in to my cycle so I should have a week to go until ovulation. Still though, it seems to really work.


I got my hormone profile test back this week. The nurse was happy to tell me my results were 'very very good' which is a) great! and b) so frustrating as it means we are no closer to finding and fixing the problem.

 

[Nicki123]

Sorry guys, selfish post today.

I'm back from the scan and totally more confused than when I went.

The good news was... There was a heart beat, a fetal pole, yolk sac etc, and everything was in proportion.

The bad news (from my point of view) is that the measurements are all in line with a baby that is 6 wks 3 days. I KNOW that I am 7 wks 2 days today. The sonographer kept saying maybe I'd got my dates wrong, it was quite common but I'm pretty sure about when I ovd give or take a day so to be a whole week out has totally freaked me out.

DH is delighted cus he saw a heartbeat. I on the other hand think this was a bad outcome and am waiting for it all to go wrong. I am not sure what this means and am totally confused.

I thought this scan was going to reassure me but am feeling worse than before. We have cancelled going to see DHs family and I'm back home on the sofa. Blurgh

 

[wookie130]

Oh, Nicki...hmmm. The only thing I can say, is this happened to one of my best friends in real life. The baby was measuring about a week behind, and she also kept having these mysterious bleeds at 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 12, and I think even after that. Each time, baby had a heartbeat, and the baby is now here, and she's about 2 weeks old. What was your baby's heartrate, by chance? Was it between 120-160 bpm? That would be typical for a baby in the 7 week range of gestation. At around 6 weeks, if a heartbeat can be seen, usually 100 bpm or above can be expected...

It may not end badly. Pray, and then pray some more. Good luck, honey!

 

[Nicki123]

Thanks wookie. That helps. I am so annoyed that I didn't ask about the heartbeat. I was just sent in a spin by the size of the baby and my mind went blank of questions to ask. I'm looking through the notes and it doesn't mention bpm. Kicking myself for not checking.

DH is being so positive and I feel like such a cow for being so negative but I'm finding it tough to think this is going to end well.

EDIt: feeling a little better after checking google. Seems its very hard to date pgs this early, lots of examples of people being told up to 2 weeks smaller than expected and good outcomes. Sometimes the babies make up days as they grow. Going to try and calm down a bit, nothing I can do but wait for the next scan....that 2 weeks is going to seem like FOREVER!

 

[BeachChica]

Nicki- I know it's hard not to worry when you're PAL but measurements can still be off by a few days at this point and everything could be ok. Are they going to scan you again in 2weeks? I would insist on it just to see how things are progressing.

Monro- I took a peak at your chart and I see the damn witch got you!!!

AFM - i had my followup appt with my RE on Thursday. We spent a lot of time talking about my questions and my results. My tissue results were in and unfortunately the result was another chromosomally abnormal baby - this time Turners Syndrome. I am a little surprised and disappointed as I feel like some of the things that I thought of trying next time would not have even made a difference in either of the MC's that have been tested. Right now we are at 100% with the chromosomal problems (for the MCs that were tested), with no answers as to what is causing this. My doctor still really feels like its just been really bad luck for us. My RE says this is one of the most common results in pregnancy loss. DH also had his SA results back and everything was normal except morphology/shape was just barely normal. My doc still feels like it is very unlikely that this would have caused the chromosome problems.
At this point he feels our best option is to do the IVF with PGD. DH and I have a lot to think about with this as the procedure is very expensive and the success rate is only about 30%. Its a hard pill to swallow for those odds. My doctor is going to write a letter for me to send to my insurance to see if this is something they will cover given my history. If it is I think we will probably definitely go this route, if not I am leaning towards trying 1 more time on our own. What do you girls think if you were in this situation? The odds of another chromosomal problem are high but could there be a normal one in there??? Its so tough, I don't know what to do. During my pelvic exam he took a sample to send for another test that some people believe could cause RPL (I can't remember what is was), just to dot our I's and cross our T's. He is also checking into a few things and may want to do a uterine biopsy next month. I have not had one of these yet in my testing. I also brought in some articles about some of the immunology testing done for RPL and NK cells. A lot of the tests I have already had but he is going to look into the others.

 

[Nicki123]

Have managed to catch up with you other ladies now.

Monro, sorry if AF has arrived but loving your PMA for the next cycle.

Thurl i hope the time flies before your apt, ttc is such a waiting game isn't it.

Ambi - so pleased your hormone tests were good. I know what you mean about it being frustrating though, all my RPL testing came back normal and I was kind of glad but just wanted some answers. I agree about EPO too, it also helped me a bit.

Beach - I'm so sorry about your tissue results. That's such a lot to digest. I really hope your insurance comes through for you. As for what to do next if not... Such a tough call. I too would also be inclined to give it one more try naturally ( remind me, do you get pg relatively quickly?) as you could get lucky this time. But only you and Your DH will know if you're feeling strong enough to do that, and cope with the outcome if it doesn't end well. I really feel for you having to make that choice.

Afm, the scan today was a private one as I just hate having them at the EPU and also I wanted an external tummy scan rather than an internal one (epu only seem to do internal scans this early). Feeling lots better now 1) recalculated my dates and I'm actually 7wk 1 day meaning its only a 5 day difference from the scan and 2) one of. The lovely ladies on my journal had the exact same thing - 5 days difference at her 7.5 week scan but soon caught up and her little girl is over 2 years old now So will focus on that x

 

[thurl30]

Nicki, your little baby has a heartbeat That's fantastic news I don't know much about measurements at scans etc, I have never got to that stage, but I have heard many people saying they were measuring behind at the very beginning, so for the next 2 weeks just focus on the heartbeat and have lots of PMA, so pleased for you hun

Beach you are so strong to have gone through all that you have, I have a friend who is going through IVF with PGD at the moment and it certainly is a big decision, it could be a decision that really works for you though. That said you are totally right and none of this means that you will definately have the same problem next time if you conceive again naturally. I can't really give you advice on what to do, but anytime you want to talk about it then we are here. The biopsy could be good, and a test for NK cells, the results might hold other suggestions

 

[wookie130]

I would call where you had the private scan performed, Nicki, and ask how many bpm your baby's heartrate was...perhaps they can tell you.

I'm actually suprised they could do an external scan this early on you...the internal is just about the only option from where I'm from, that early on. And yes, early on, there can be quite a variance on measurements...sometimes it can vary drastically from nurse to nurse too.

I just ordered a Sonoline B doppler from ebay, and it should be arriving either tomorrow or Tuesday. I'm pretty excited. My DH didn't get to go to my 12 week appointment, so he SAW the baby's heart flickering at 7 weeks, but didn't get to hear it on a doppler during my last visit. So, this should be good piece of mind for me, and neat for DH.