Alternative Vaccine Schedule?

[sparkswillfly]

I'm not vaccinated bwahahaha!

Its something I'm going to look into, but at the end of the day I do place a lot of trust into medical research and professional advice.

But there isnt much medical research to suggest they are safe thats the point.

Mercury was in vaccines for 40 odd years before they realised how unsafe it was.

Theres actually no research on safety levels of aluminium in vaccines, but there is safety levels of it being ingested. Surely injecting something straight into your body is worse than eating it so why are there no safety levels? Why hasnt it been throughly researched?

 

[sparkswillfly]

Most of the medical profession are in agreement that more research needs to be done.

 

[Pyrrhic]

I meant research both ways, both for and against

 

[sparkswillfly]

I meant research both ways, both for and against

I read it as you put a lot of faith into GPs and department of health.

 

[Linzi]

interesting thread sam maddi's had her's on to schedule, except mmr, which i delayed for a few months, she hasn't had it yet, as i wanted to give her a few extra months before having her mmr, especially as she had been poorly.

with regards to my gp surgery, they've been pretty useless and never bothered to mention it or even perform the routine checks on maddi! so no hounding by hv's from here x x

Exactly the same here, Seth is 15 months and we've not even had an appointment for his MMR, although Ive kind of made the decision to wait until he's at least 18 months anyway, because he's been poorly, is underweight and gets poorly very easily. If he had been healthy for the time he's been here then Id have done it on schedule I just feel that if he's a little older he might be able to deal with it better.

x

 

[massacubano]

I know it is a much debated subject. My son has autism so... for myself I am feeling extra anxiety... I mean it is still in question. However, who wants to risk their child... either way (get toxins or get polio so on).. know? its horrible ... really

 

[Kitten]

You're damned either way tbh. I know a lot of people who got sick with the mumps at uni because they didn't have the MMR and it was an uber epidemic and it was ridiculous. I personally have had all the vaccinations and it hasn't crossed my mind not to have them, if he ended up getting something I'd hate myself, but then equally if he got something from the vaccines I'd be just as devastated so it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" for me. I get the flu jab because getting the flu 4+ times a year really was starting to impact on my life and I ended up in the high dependency unit in hospital before they even suggested giving it to me and I have to admit I have never read the pros and cons and stuff of that vaccine. I figured I'm an "ignorance is bliss" kind of person when it comes to this stuff or I'd never make any decisions, lol, but I do think it's a parents right to choose.

 

[princessellie]

i really didnt want to get leylas injections done, in fact i posted on here about it but pretty much just got ''why wouldnt you want to do something that helps your baby'' responses, then felt like a shit mammy and got her injected! i sooo wish i hadnt now though, she is definitely not getting the mmr, paul wants her to get it but i just dont! im lucky with my HV, everytime ive aid to them i dont want her to get this, theyve said oh i'll send u this dvd and u can decide whether u want it done, i said last time cos she asked me about the mmr and i said no i dont think i want her to have it, then said god i bet your sick of me saying shes not having owt, and she said all we can do as parents is weigh out the pros and cons, noone really knows whats best, we have to work out whats best, so shes pretty good

x

 

[sparkswillfly]

''why wouldnt you want to do something that helps your baby''
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I find that when people say stuff like that they generally dont have a clue what they are talking about.

Im not saying everyone should be anti vaccine but 99% of people just go ahead without a seconds thought. I was one of them.

I had a few friends get mumps at uni aswell but it wasnt that bad and they got over it.

 

[wishingonastar]

i'm also very concerned about the vaccine schedule and i'm pretty peeved that they're taken away single vaccines for MMR...especially as I (and many other parents) would be willing to pay for the single doses

isabel is due her first vaccines in two weeks and i'm really unsure whether to do it or if there's alternative routes

 

[mommyof3co]

I agree, I think when you get responses like that people don't really know what they are talking about. I def don't think that everyone should just be against vaccines, people need to do the research for themselves and decide what is best for their family. While I agree to an extent with the damned if you do damned if you don't statement....with us we also took into consideration that yes while there are def risks on both sides what are the chances of each. The chances of them contracting many of these illnesses is actually very low...but the chances of them coming into contact with the toxins from the vaccines is 100% if I vaccinate...therefore increasing the risk of something happening in the first place. Then you take into consideration that the bad side effects from the diseases they may or may not come into contact with...how high is the rate of that. For us that was alot of what made our decision for us. I was def one that went into it blind and just followed the recommendations with Landon, I had no clue no one didn't vaccinate, really had no idea there were real side effects...knew next to nothing about them, that information should be told just as much as the benefits of the vaccines so everyone can make a balanced choice

 

[wishingonastar]

thanks for the book link sam...i've now ordered it

 

[princess_bump]

i have to say i researched all the vaccinations when pregnant, and actually studied the mmr and autism link at uni, especially with regards to the government's and media's stance, and i have found choosing to give maddi mmr a really hard choice. what i was most angry with is the fact you cannot now get the single mumps vaccine. i was all set to pay for maddi's single mmr at a private clinic locally to us, but they have now stopped this as they are no longer producing the mums vaccine, i find this disgusting as i feel it takes away a parents right to choose, i, supposedly do not live in a dictatorship, so why is there such an obviously push towards to the triple mmr?

anyhow, after much soul searching and plenty of research maddi's is booked, all i can say is i hope i can be confident in my decision, and like us all, i just want the best for my baby xx

 

[reallytinyamy]

i have to say i researched all the vaccinations when pregnant, and actually studied the mmr and autism link at uni, especially with regards to the government's and media's stance, and i have found choosing to give maddi mmr a really hard choice. what i was most angry with is the fact you cannot now get the single mumps vaccine. i was all set to pay for maddi's single mmr at a private clinic locally to us, but they have now stopped this as they are no longer producing the mums vaccine, i find this disgusting as i feel it takes away a parents right to choose, i, supposedly do not live in a dictatorship, so why is there such an obviously push towards to the triple mmr?

anyhow, after much soul searching and plenty of research maddi's is booked, all i can say is i hope i can be confident in my decision, and like us all, i just want the best for my baby xx

I'm with you Carly, studied it at uni as I was specialising in autism at the time of "the" scare and I hav decided that Chloe will be having it.

This, for me, has definitely been the hardest part of parenting so far. How do you know you've made the right decision, and god forbid you make the wrong one. I hate knowing a few months/years down the line I could be beating myself up for making this decision, but the same goes for the other way too!

 

[sparkswillfly]

I think Ive decided to only do measles as a single vacine rather than all 3. Im going to give Meadow Rubella when shes 12/13 if shes not already immune.

Im not sure what I would have done from birth. I think I would wait till 6 months to start them definitely.

 

[wishingonastar]

can measles still be bought as a single one???

god this is a mine field for me

 

[princessellie]

why are you getting her the measles one? is that one theat's most safe or is it the only one you can get individually?

x

 

[sparkswillfly]

You can get both measles and rubella seperately. Normally about £100 each. I mostly decided to get the measles one because of where we live. If we lived in the country somewhere I probably wouldnt get it.

I think it is much safer than the MMR but Im still unsure. I need to look into it more.

 

[Angel2Fire]

Chaise has had his first ones but he's not having the MMR. His dad had a very bad reaction to the measles jab and I'm not risking the same happening to Chaise.
Once Chaise is old enough he will be kept healthy by the food he eats and vitamins if needed. He will also be given a childs dose of echinacea to help strengthen his immune system for if he did get ill.
A lot of people say I'm being selfish because if no one had their child vaccinated then there would be more illness around but thats not strictly true. If you are kept healthy you have a better chance of fighting off illness.
I don't get on with my HV anyway because I go by what I feel is best for my child and not what a textbook says.

 

[PeanutBean]

This is an interesting thread.

For Byron's first three lots we delayed them all by a few weeks so there was a bigger gap between and he was older when he had them. He was fine with them all and I'm glad I did it. It's a lot to take on for a small baby and he was a couple of weeks early so I wanted to compensate for that.

Is for the MMR I have no doubt about the absence of a link to autism and am surprised people are still discussing that when it is entirely refuted. Considering there still to be a link based on one kooky piece of rubbished research is not entirely logical though of course I understand people being concerned about their baby's safety. I am concerned about the MMR in terms of getting so much at once. I would prefer to go for the single vaccines but we won't be able to afford to do that. If we were getting the single vaccines I would still get them all. I've had mumps as a kid and it's mostly not a big deal however I don't think DH has had it and I would want both him and Byron to be protected by its damaging effects on men. For Rubella I am less concerned but if we have a girl in the future the same applies for the whole family's safety (not to mention others we comeinto contact with). As for Measles, well it is a critical time for the measles vaccination programme with measles moving towards eradication then people suddenly stopping the vaccination (because of that crap research and media scare) it's making a comeback and there's the risk now that it will be a stronger mutated form. Hm. I think it's important to progress with the measles jab in the hope of winning that particular battle. It's a bandwagon thing and with mass vaccination there comes a time when everyone needs to be on board, like with smallpox.

I didn't have the BCG (I'm the only person I know outside my family who doesn't have that scar on their arm) and I don't think I'll ahve my kids have it either. On principle I am for people getting illnesses and developing a strengthened immunity however I have to temper that stance with consideration for what society is doing and also how severe the illness can be.

Does that make sense? Bit of an essay! lol