but as you say there are so many people who dont have that or family cant give it for whatever reason. And those people have paid into the system for so many years, why should they not get the help now? Why should they sit at home poorly, wondering if they should go to the doctors and face the cost or sit at home getting worse and worse?
I don't think it is fair to lump all people together, there are always going to be the ones that do cheat and lie but most really need it and deserve it, so they should not be made to suffer cause of the idiots..JMO
I have no doubt it happens, but I am not the sort of person who think oh the minority of people on welfare are milking the system so lets punish the majority.
Your MIL is lucky to have your support
Sorry for the rant, it isnt aimed at you just a general sort of reply to the thread
It's so embarrassing when I see people equate socialism with every person having access to at least basic medical care.
And I can't believe how incredibly selfish someone can be that they'd deny another person the right to live simply because they don't have enough money. It's not just lazy, purposely unemployed people who don't have insurance, plenty of employed people are uninsured as well. The same applies to many college students. And even if you are lazy and don't want to work? I'm still not comfortable with letting you die because of some unfortunate personality traits and lack of ambition. And more importantly, I'd rather see my money go towards saving someone's grandfather or daughter or brother than funding some ridiculous wars
So you think paying for them to have 10 kids (that all grow up to be the same way) would be better. That's probably the majority of the reason we have the welfare mess. I've seen it equated many times to the signs to not feed the animals because they become dependent (and then can't take care of themselves nor their offspring). If we continue to let people have as many kids as they want and pay for them to live in basically the same lifestyle as the working middle class (minus the working part) we are doing NO ONE any favors. They need to have motivation to better themselves. If everything that those that work have is given to them (and sometimes more) what motivation do they have to better themselves or teach their children to be independent adults?
I don't think it is fair to lump all people together, there are always going to be the ones that do cheat and lie but most really need it and deserve it, so they should not be made to suffer cause of the idiots..JMO
I don't think it is fair to lump all people together, there are always going to be the ones that do cheat and lie but most really need it and deserve it, so they should not be made to suffer cause of the idiots..JMO
Private organizations (churches, other social programs like Salvation Army) can help out those that truly need it. They are better at screening people and making sure people are only getting what they need and not scamming the system to pay for big screen tvs and game systems (and designer clothes/ jewelry/ cars/ etc.). Build shelters for multiple families where those that can't afford their own housing go to live (there is no reason for private housing). Provide soup kitchens and food banks to give out staples that people need to eat, so they don't trade their card benefits for cigarettes/ booze/ other things. People would never go truly without in the country even if there were no welfare system (I don't consider SS a welfare system if you've paid into it for years before you draw it either). The local church near me packs bag lunches and passes them out to the homeless. I try to give them a check at least every couple of weeks because 1) I feel the people aren't going to scam for a bag lunch as much as cash (especially when someone is going out and handing it directly to them on the street) and 2) they truly do need it and aren't being helped at all by our current government "social programs".
