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[bann1126]

Wow, I had a lot of catching up reading to do!!

Irish - I am soooo excited for you!! Please don't be so hard on yourself! (Easier said than done, I know!) I have always heard that our little unborn babies can withstand a whole lot more than we give them credit for. One glass of wine should not do any harm. And you needed the workout to relieve the stress. Just think the stress and being upset could have affected you and your baby even more than one glass of wine and a good workout. Good luck at the doctors. Keep us posted!

Leeze - so I have never heard of a fertility show. Wonder if they have them around my area? You have given me all kinds of ideas and things to look into. Thanks.

ttc1st - Thanks for asking about my promotion! I start my new position on November 22nd. That is why I was kind of thinking we might want to wait this month out. I don't want to start a new job and then tell them I'm pregnant. But then I thought better of it. I would love to be faced with that situation! I have not tried the preseed yet. I have it, just have not tried it yet. I'm glad to hear you like the CBFM. Our plan is to invest in one next month if this month does not work out for us. And the 2WW, I wish I had some good advice for you but I don't. I think those 2 weeks are agony for us all!

So I got a positive OPK on Saturday. A day or two earlier than I was expecting. Caught me off guard actually. So we just got Saturday and Sunday in and we are going to try and get tonight in if my OH is not too tired when he gets home from work.

We had another little falling out last night. Not an argument but he was tired and I just got all upset because of the positive reading Saturday and how important it is for us to be BD'ing right now. We had a nice long talk. Come to find out he is still upset about the MC we had in June. He said he saw how much it took out of me and he is worried. He has been hiding his feelings. He is scared and does not want it to happen again. He is one that you have to drag his feelings out of him. It was nice to see him show his feelings last night.

In the end we got last night in thank goodness! I am hoping and praying it worked this month!

Nice to catch up with everyone. Take care.

 

[ttc1st_at_40]

bann... my +OPK came later than normal.. actually by like 2 days... I was expecting it on thursday pm...so I already had my hubby on the "have to do every night..since thrsday" but I never got my opk on thrs or fri.. then sat am I got the on the digital and was going to be out all saturday evening... so when I tried to "get him into bed" in the AM... he was adamant NO WAY!!! and I got really upset... peed on the darn stick and showed him the : ) on the digital with tears in my eyes " see this is what I have been waiting for and now you dont want to "

he gave in and text me (keep in mind I was down stairs he was upstairs) " lets go" ends up after we BD he ended up telling me he didnt "know if he could produce" since we already did thrs and fri....that was why he was an adamant NO WAY..

I just told him... ok I understand that....but its worth trying at least !! I am not going to be upset if you cant "produce" so it was kinda like he didnt want to be embarassed if he couldnt "follow" through... my poor guy... Im wearing him out !!! both physically and emotionally it seems...

 

[Irish9yo]

Bann a MC can be very traumatising and we forget alomost about our DH's but they feel it too even if they don't say it I think mainly b/c they are so devastated for us and how it affects us. You will soon be in the cruel 2WW and I have all my fingers and toes crossed for both you and TTC1st. The pressure of having to perforrm on cue can be gruelling on them and I suppose they do their best but they are not getting up each morning hoping and praying for a or a BFP they just don't process time like we do. Little update when to the nurse this morning for my Beta bloods and she did a HPT it was super faint so she was not very enthusiastic which was quite upsetting. I rang the fertility clinic and told them I had a faint positive this morning but that it came up almost immediately and was clearly visible they said to consider this a positive. I also told them about the dark discharge and they said they would only be really concerned if it was red so I am reluctantly going to accept that at the moment I am pregnant. I am feeling every twinge in my body feels like everything is magnified. Since the MC I am scared to even think this might be it - back in on Thursday for 2nd Beta's to make sure my HCG levels are rising totally petrified that they will be falling but lets wait and see. Will probably be next Monday before I get the 2nd test and that will tell a lot. In the meantime the Fertility Clinic has me booked in for the 2nd of Dec for an early scan to determine all going well that everything is progressing as it should be. Guys hang in there your OH's will come around they know how much it means to yee I am honestly praying for yee all - extra baby dust to you all.

 

[Leeze]

Hi everyone

Sorry it's just a quick one from me as I'm not feeling too good today. I've been taking such a crazy combination of stuff this month - increased dosage of maca tablets, evening primrose oil, pregnacare vitamins and also the cough medicine like robutissun. My stomach has been totally churning the last couple of hours and I really thought I was going to be sick. It's settled down now so I'm going to go to bed soon to have some energy for what I think will be our big night tomorrow night. No positive O yet but I did have some very noticeable EWCM just a few minutes ago - so I'm feeling pretty excited about that and hoping that it means O is just around the corner.

Irish - sending you a hug and lots of positive thoughts. I bet you're on a real emotional rollercoaster. Don't give yourself a hard time for having a drink the other night, I think as long as you didn't overdo it then it wouldn't have any impact.

Bann and TTC1st - let's hope this 2WW brings some very happy results for you at the end of it!!

xx

 

[Leeze]

just realised my status said "happy" - had to change this to "sick". This made me smile as I then thought about how amazing it would feel to be able to change it to "sick" when that lovely sought-after BFP comes and the morning sickness sets in. please let it be soon for us all!!!!! xx

 

[Irish9yo]

Leeze you poor thing you are juggling a lot of balls there hang in there it will all be worth it. Hard to think that we get excited by EWM but alas it is true. Thanks for the well wishes I am still paranoid I took a cheapie Tesco test and it also came back positive tonight so I am now just praying that the 2nd Beta goes in the right direction. Bann I was on to the Fertility Clinic to tell them I got a positive and asked them about progestern as I had a MC she said she would consult with the doctor and get back to me. She has put me on 8wks of progestern to help with the pregnancy - don't think they do this unless there is a history of MC or your progestern is low but if you get your it may be worth asking your Doc about. Will let yee know how I get on once I get the results of the Beta - - Baby Dust to all

 

[ttc1st_at_40]

Irish... loads of prayers and baby dust to you !!! good news on the cheapie coming back positive tonight..hope those beta tests come back with fantastic news on thursday!!!, just think positive!! that is the best thing you can do at this point ya know!!

Leeze-yes rest up sister, you got some Oing to be nice an energized for. Isnt it true that, that is the LAST thing on your mind when not feeling well... but we dont let ANYTHING stop us when its O time huh?

so Bann looks like we both got our +Opks on Saturday... I think I O'd Sat night... so am counting today as 3DPO.. and AF would be due next Wed/Thrs... as I have a kinda short LP phase (typically 11/12 days (yes I know kinda on the short side...hopefully not TOO short though) I may actually have to start looking into that cause actually last month it was only 9/10 days, hoping that was a fluck cycle and it doesnt continue like that, as then I will def have a LP deficency... baby cant attached in 9 short days thats for sure) well crossing fingers for at least a 11 dayer this cycle... anyway back to my original point I was going to make which was.. so AF for me is due like Wed/Thrs typically... and I will hold off testing until Friday if AF doesnt show... what about you... when is AF due and when do you think you'll test ?

 

[chysantheMUM]

ttc1st - i'm the same as you, my last 3 luteal lengths have been 11, 12 and 10 days, as I understand it just long enough

I haven't ovulated yet through, been looking at the figures for the past year and my cycle is now on average 3 days longer than it was before i began ttc, obviously the stress I am now a fairly late ovulator, I'm on day 15 today and still no sign but the last 3 cycles I ov'd on days 18, 20 and 19 so not expecting to for a few days yet Still made a start on the BD'ing every over day though, just in case

Irish 9yo - that all sounds pretty positive to me, fingers x'd for Thurs, hope your doing ok and looking after yourself, it looks like you've had a bit of a rollercoaster ride this past week good luck, hope its good news

Leeze - sorry to hear you've not been feeling so good this week and as for the white lie to the doc, I say go for it, I've been tempted myself and we've only been ttc for 5 months I won't, I'll hold on a bit longer but sometimes I think whats the point of putting myself through all this every month when I don't even know for sure that our equipment is capable of pulling it off for sure Anyway hopefully you'll get you're this month and won't need to

Anyway good luck everyone, we've had some good positive news on this thread over the past month, lets hope this month brings lots more

 

[Leeze]

Hi ladies

I got my positive O this morning and had a really positive visit to the fertility clinic where they even gave me a short acupuncture treatment because it's O day! I felt great afterwards so have signed up for acupuncture twice a month and am going to see a nutritionist next week too. We met with Zita West at the clinic (has anyone heard of her) - she's written a few books on how to improve fertility. She was really nice and very encouraging - says she thinks with a few changes to our lifestyle and nutrition that we should get that BFP again naturally within the next few months. She suggested we go back and see her in Feb if we haven't got it by then, that made me feel hopeful. Also, it's quite expensive so I'd like to not have to go back there!

ChysantheMum - great to see you on here and well done that you've made a good start on the BD-ing. Zita said to us today that we should really be doing it 3-4 times a week all the way through the month and make sure that we change our lifestyle in order to prioritise this. My OH seems to be committed to this, definitely there was a big smile on his face when he saw the benefits of making those lifestyle changes!!! (like not staying at work so late or eating a light meal in the early evening so we're not feeling too full and tired to BD later or staying up too late to do it!)

Irish - it's all sounding great still. good idea re the progesterone, I'm guessing this will help you stay positive. Remember, that little bean inside you needs you to be strong and positive right now!

TTC1st - I'd definitely recommend maca to try to get your cycles in order (and also helped me with stress levels)

Bann - it's funny, isn't it - that men can sometimes hold back more but underneath be just as sensitive as us? I had a bit of a row with my OH a few months ago around O time when we didn't BD because he had too much to drink. I got quite annoyed with him and said he had prioritised drinking over our baby-making and he ended up saying he felt really sad because he hadn't meant to do that but he could see why it looked like that.

So, I'm expecting to see lots more BFPs on this thread - not bad that we've had 2 already. let's be encouraged by this and then we can be bump buddies too!!

 

[Irish9yo]

Guys sounds like you are all well on your way, TTC1st hang in there for the 2WW, Cmum I used to ovulate late too I know it can make the wait feel even longer but it will come around. Leeze great news about the FC sometimes the extra advise can be very empowering, best of luck with the BDing - have fun hopefully you will all have news in the next 3wks or so . So it is official I am pregnant I got my 1st Beat back today and it was 25.1 bit low on the averages but Doc said really doesn't mean anything until the 2nd Beata is done to ensure that it is rising sufficiently should double ever 48-72hrs should have the results on Friday - totally crapping it but also excited trying to stay positive but feeling every twinge and off to the loo every 20min just in case there is spotting or blood - it doesn't get any easier but it is so worth it. Guys just wanted to say thanks so much for all your support and words of encouragement it has really helped me. Unless you are going through it you just don't understand this is the case with all my close friends so having this forum has been a God sent really look forward to seeing all your posts. Best of luck and baby dust to you all - keep you posted on Friday on how I get on!!!!!!!!!!

 

[chysantheMUM]

Yay, Irish0yo, thats fantastic news try not to worry too much about the bleeding / spotting, a friend of mine had the same during the first month but is now well into her 3rd trimester and has had a problem free pregnancy other than that. I'm so excited for you, all the best for the next 9 months and beyond

 

[bann1126]

Hi Ladies! This has to be super quick for me. Been crazy busy today! Which is not a bad thing. I had no time to think at all!...

ttc1st - I am not exactly sure when exactly I ovulated. I got my positive Saturday early afternoon. I am thinking I probably did on Sunday. Who knows. My cycles have been 30 days but last months was 28 days. If this month is 28 days then AF is due November 22nd. I am going to start testing next Wednesday.

Woohoo Leeze for your positive OPK!! Now get to work! LOl.

So I don't feel so positive about this month. We only got 2 days in, Saturday night and Sunday night. Got last night in but I am fairly positive that last night was too late. It only takes 1 little swimmer though so I am holding out hope.

and

 

[ttc1st_at_40]

Irish-what fantastic news… so happy your values came back good; you must be over the moon huh ?? and keeping my fingers crossed that they double on your next results too… gosh I cant wait until I am in your shoes!!!

And I know what you mean about the difficultly discussing all this with your friends, unless they are exactly going through this, they really do NOT understand. I have some close friends (and I am sure you guys do as well) that care about me and “ask” “hows things going” but I would torment them if I talked to them every day and tell them “well… my temp was XX this morning…I got a positive OPK or I saw CM or am worried about my CM and my LP etc etc etc. So this site actually keeps me sane so to speak… So I thank you girls too!!!

Bann … appears that FF changed my O date to Sunday now ? well this is my first month temping and I guess as soon as I had 3 days of high temps it gave me the cross bars and said I O’d on CD 15 (Saturday) but then when I put more high temps in, it adjusted my O date to now CD16 (Sunday) …. Oh well, I guess I trust FF to a certain point BUT to be honest the best I think I’ll go with is I either O’d on Sat OR Sun….but I feel Ok because we BD on both those days … and so did you… so your right… it only takes 1 little swimmer… lets hope 1 got through !!!

Leeze… I am really going to look into the Maca… I did start another thread in the 1st tri section asking girls who went on to get their BFP with short LP how short. it was… got a lot of responses from girls that are right around 10 days. So made me feel a little better… but I know what would make me feel EVEN better…really having more than 10 days.. haha….so I will look into that Maca. Sounds like you had a great Fertility Consult. So was that basically to sit down and talk to a FS about TTC, and they give you advise mostly on lifestyle changes ? any tips you can share? Was it mostly nutrition and exercise tips ? and the making time for BDing etc…

CMum- I am actually opposite of you… I went back and looked at my cycles over the last year… and for a whole year my cycle days where avg 28-29 days,(now back then I wasn’t necessarily charting…so don’t know when I was Oing or what my LP was..I just kept a record of when I got my period) now for the last 7 months they are avg 25-26 days… so my cycle has actually shortened… hope they don’t go any shorter

So I am 4DPO this AM… pretty much zero symptoms, perhaps I feel a little twang in the belly area, but think its my imagination, other than that nothing…I have to be honest girls… I don’t even think I know exactly where my Ovaries are ? also my temps are up so I guess that means I did O, so that’s a good thing. But no sore boobies yet, which I normally get every cycle, but they haven’t started yet.

So a little more update on me: So as I told ya earlier, I went to see my OB/GYN last week, and he prescribed me 3 months of Clomid to start next month, but didn’t put me on any types of testing/monitoring, just to take that and have “sex”…(pretty much his exact words ) And he also gave me a script for SA for hubby, and hubby agreed to do that next week!! Which is good news he agreed to that…I thought for sure I’d have to fight him!!

BUT I started to get a little anxious about taking the Clomid, and wanted to see for my self how my body is reacting to it… SOOOO I called my Dr back and asked him for when I start the Clomid next month if he would prescribe me blood tests again. So, so far he agreed to do the CD3 Blood FSH/LH tests again (my last set was 5 months ago and those values came back good-average) which as ya Prob know these CD3 tests give you and idea of the "quality" of your eggs. So I’ll do that on CD3 next month then I start on Clomid days 3-7 THEN I will go back and take the same FSH/LH tests again on CD10 to check what my eggs do on the Clomid (this is all called "The Clomid Challange" I had to Google it to find out more info)

anyway I am excited that I was able to talk him into these tests... I also talked him in to giving me the 21 day blood tests (which measures your progesterone...to tell if you have Ovulated, or how well you Ovulated) I pick up the scripts for this blood work today, and will actually go get 1 of these progesterone blood test done next Monday (to see what my progesterone levels are this month...to tell how good my O was without taking Clomid, then I will take them the next two months on Clomid to see how my O was on it as well)

and pretty much this is the extent that my OB/GYN can do on the fertility side of things, everything else I would have to go see a Fertility Specialist. Typically OBs don’t do scans etc, they can prescribe the Clomid and Blood work but that’s about it. And from what I understand typically the first thing a FS would do anyway, is put you on Clomid (BUT they monitor you more closely with scans and blood work) But I figured if I have to go to a FS at least I will have these Clomid cycles already under my belt with some Blood results for them to look at? ….and doing this with my Regular Dr is exempting me of having to pay the HIGH HIGH price of FS to prescribe the exact same Clomid and Tests.

Because to be honest I am very scared that my hubby just wont go to a FS at all... for a few reason… first I know it is SUPER SUPER expensive... and to me you can not put a price on a family...I would pay the money...but dont think he will... Also I don’t think he would be on board with IVF/IUI if that is our last alternative..… as it is all too artificial for him…he thinks it should happen naturally and also on the Religious end of things as well. Hey I am as religious as they get.. but he is a hard core Catholic… and me I am Episcopalian but Catholics, they are against IVF/IUIs (hey Episcopalians as a whole may be as well… but not this one hahaha) As I am sure you Prob already know for the Religious side of thing they are saying that it is taking God out of the whole conceiving equation. And I am not sure where your girls opinion is on all that, and I do respect everyones opinions…..But my thoughts are opposite, I really do feel that God gave us science and talented Drs to help where our bodies need it..ANYWAY….dont want to go too far down that road… that’s probably room for a whole different thread huh ?? haha So very long story short, I hope and pray hard every single night that this all happens for us naturally (well naturally with some Clomid would be fine as well) .

Sorry for the SUPER LONG post girls… I am a super quick typer, and hammered this all out in 5 minutes, so it didn’t seem so long when I started… anyway feel free to ignore me at any time !!! haha

HAVE a great day, and talk to ya ladies later.

 

[Leeze]

Oh no, I just wrote a really long post and then lost it just as I wanted to submit it!!! AGGGGHHHH

This will need to be a quicker version as my OH is due home any minute and we got another positive on the OPK today! So, sorry if any of this seems abrupt - it is very rushed!

Irish - great news re the BFP and doctor confirming this!! Happy happy times.

TTC1st - I read on one of the other threads that Vit B is meant to be good to help make the LP longer

Re the fertility consultation yesterday, here's the main points:

- sleep 8 hours a night
- exercise regularly 3-4 times a week 30-60 mins
- eat lots of fruit and veg
- don't eat late in the evening (we do a lot)
- BD 3-4 times every week
- try to relax more, she gave me a relaxation CD to listen to every day for 20 mins
- see the doctor about a referral for a day 21 progesterone test
- see the doctor about getting a vitamin D test as that's meant to be a common deficiency
- see if I can get the doctor to refer me to the local fertility unit at the hospital to do a test on my ovarian reserves
- drink minimal alcohol - no more than 3 units a day and in total no more than 5-6 units for me and 8-10 for him - per week
- see how I can reduce stress at work too
- go for acupuncture twice a month (just before O and just after)

I'm going to post this quickly now to make sure I don't lose it!!!

 

[Leeze]

I just remembered, she also said drink 2 litres of water every day

and we're both going to see a nutritionist (individually) to see what other changes we can make to our diets and to get an individual plan

she was really reassuring and said it was positive I got pregnant (even though had m/c) and said that 11 months TTC wasn't that long. So it did make me feel a lot better about things xx

 

[Leeze]

Also - I got this free ebook from the fertility show I went to on Saturday. I haven't really had time to look at but thought I would share it with you guys (then if one of you says it's good it might encourage me to read it!). I've read so much over the last 10 months about TTC and how to improve it - I don't feel i've got the stamina to do it today! Mind you my OH goes away next week with work so I'll probably have lots of time then!!

https://www.naturalfertilityexpert.co.../nfg-ebook.pdf

xx

 

[bann1126]

ttc1st - that is good info about what the OBGYN can do. I did not know about all the blood tests. I am seeing a new OBGYN next Wednesday and there is a fertility specialist in her practice. I am hoping she will give me more insight on what we can do vs. what they can do to help us. I prefer the natural way myself but if it comes down to it we will consider IVF/IUI. LOL about your religious comments and it being a topic for another thread. I work with a guy who is Catholic. Him and his wife tried to have a baby for years. She had a lot of complications. Deep down he wanted to try IVF/IUI but would not because of his religion. He just said that as much as he wanted to it would be frowned upon by his family and his church family so they ended up adopting. I personally agree that God is in charge regardless of how conception takes place.

Leeze - yay for another positive OPK!

I am on pins and needles. Can wait to POAS!! The 2WW is brutal!

Take care ladies!

 

[ttc1st_at_40]

THANKS for the list of tips Leeze, very informative tips to keep in mind. I eat too late I can tell ya that, I need to exercise a little more, we only bd like crazy during O week, other that that its 1, or 2 max times a week, my last years physical told me I was low on vit D so I had to take supplements...for 8 weeks..thought it was really wierd... whole big blood test, and it came back with your vit D is a little low, everything else was ok..hmm weird..said apparently that is a new found theory in peoples health is to make sure to test for VitD...I hadnt heard of it before.

Also Good Job on the +OPK again.. then you will be joining Leeze & I in the TWW... FUN TIMES.. NOT !! haha hate the TWW period..

Bann...ya if (and thats a really big IF) hubby agreeds to IVF/IUI, it will be a sure thing that we do not tell his parents. First of all I dont think it is any of their business...and his whole family is so Old School, they would be so terribly judgemental of all it. So nope NOT tellin them.

Cmum looks like your up next for your +OPK, then you will jion me, leez and Bann in the TWW period..

Irish...can ya tell I am already counting you "off the market" for any further TWW periods HAHA.. good luck cant wait to hear your news from your Friday Tests..

 

[Irish9yo]

Howdi Girls my Goodness you have all been super busy the 2WW can be such a stressful time I am sending yee all positive vibes. I on the other hand am going nuts my 1st test results went to the local pathology office but the ones I did on Wednesday went to another district so now have to wait till Monday for the results - Aghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

Leeze brill news about the tests I would definately push for some kind of monitoring it is both reassuring and allows you to change direction if needs be.

TTC1st I think the only thing you can do is cross that bridge when it comes to it no matter how good your man is they just cannot understand the drive for a woman who wants to have a baby, I am sure that if it comes right down to it he will support you.

Bann & all hang in there I have all my fingers crossed for yee I have a positive feeling!

Just as a side-line told my boss today that I was pregnant I know it is super early but they wanted me to do a customer visit on the 24th - 26th of this month which involves flying - I spoke to the speciliast they said that there was no conclusive evidence of any harm being caused by short-hall flights but they would support me so I told them I can't fly until the next trimester (fingers crossed all goes well) at least - well she was not happy!!!! Bascially she said how am I going to do my job if I can't travel - I was a bit upset with her reaction. Anyhoo I just said calmly that it was only one trip that I had to do before Chrimbo and that I would be able to travel (all going well) after Christmas. Guys I am just not taking the risk - my husband was strongly against me saying this to them but I made a call and did it anyway. After everything we have been through I would never forgive myself if anything happened while flying at this early stage. Will post on Monday to let yee know how I get on - Have a great weekend!!!

 

[bann1126]

I would have done the same thing Irish! I would not take ANY chances on anything possibly happening!!! Sorry to hear you got no support from your boss. If yours is anything like mine they live and die for their job. My job does NOT come before my family! I feel very strongly about that! And having to wait till Monday regarding your test results... Ugh!... you are now somewhat part of the 2WW. Haha. Just a little bit shorter.

Well ladies as every weekend I am going to try and keep myself busy and off the internet. I hope you all have a wonderful and relaxing weekend!