Bumpkins & Babies Chat Thread

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Well, my elation at Megan's eating was short lived. She refused her dinner last night. I tried her on mashed potato, carrot, cauliflower and salmon that we were having and she hated it all. She has been having it pureed but I thought due to her new pincer grip I would try it just on her tray. Anyway she just mushed it all in her fingers and wouldn't even eat any of it if I gave it to her. I tried her on one of my purees after that and she just spat it out. Just don't know what to feed her anymore. She won't eat purees, won't eat lumps and will only eat cheerios, cheese sandwiches (if broken up and given to her), and toast (same as sandwiches). Oh and soy yoghurt. Why did I get one of these babies?????????????? Everything has been a struggle with her! :cry: :shrug: :cry: :wacko: :cry:


Hmmm, I can't remember whether you are BF or FF. Anyway, it doesn't really matter - the point I wanted to say was that I think even at this age, if your baby isn't eating too much solid stuff it isn't neces a HUGE issue. Of course you would dearly love her to wolf down her food, but it could just be that what with her various probs that she's been through she might be just a little delayed in terms of eating and digestive stuff compared with other babies. You know how some babies crawl early but others can barely shuffle even at age 18months? Well maybe that's the same for Megan in terms of eating. Soooo, what I am trying to say in a very long-winded fashion is maybe her little digestive system just isn't quite ready yet for 'real' food and she'd still rather have either formula or breastmilk. We've been through a few feeding strikes with Monty, either with him not breastfeeding or not eating solids - quite often it turns out to be a teething issue, so a few days after his refusal to eat a new tooth pops out or at least starts to appear.

My suggestion, FWIW (I'm defo no expert on the baby front, ha ha), is to keep trying her with solids each day, just let her play with the food, even if she doesn't eat it. I seem to remember Florabean saying she did this with Harry, am I right? I recall something about having a mad food-game session, where you covered the change mat with lots of yummy stuff and eventually he decided to start eating. So maybe that's worth a shot? In the meantime, just keep up her calories by giving her lots of lovely milk.

And hey, I bet we've all been there with thinking 'why me? Why my baby?' I certainly felt like that far too often in the early days. I bet in a few months time you will look with adoring eyes on your little bundle and think 'gosh, was it really that hard back then' - ha, you'll probably also be thinking 'Blimey, girl, are you trying to eat us out of house and home?'

Hope my waffling helps a little. Sorry, I can't help myself but write entire essays once I get going!
 
My suggestion, FWIW (I'm defo no expert on the baby front, ha ha), is to keep trying her with solids each day, just let her play with the food, even if she doesn't eat it. I seem to remember Florabean saying she did this with Harry, am I right? I recall something about having a mad food-game session, where you covered the change mat with lots of yummy stuff and eventually he decided to start eating. So maybe that's worth a shot? In the meantime, just keep up her calories by giving her lots of lovely milk.

yep, that was me; for about a week, he pretty much refused to eat anything & hadn't upped his milk intake so I was getting panicky about it all. I still dont know the reason for it... I literally anti-bac'd the changing mat & cut up loads of different batons of fruit n vege cooked so they were pretty soft, but not so they broke apart when he grabbed them, cooked some pasta twirls, mashed potato, soft bread fingers with things like cheese, unsalted butter, fruity jam, jelly etc... and did this 3-4 times a day & got right down on the floor with him & we just played like crazy fools with all the stuff...
First couple of days, he just looked at me like I was mental, then he started to get interested in smushing & throwing & generally just having fun & making lots of mess, then eventually he started picking things up & copying me with putting them in his mouth, which eventually lead to him actually sucking & chewing & gumming little bits & pieces & by about 10 days, he was eating just fine again... not long after that he mastered the pincer grip & since then there's been no stopping him.
Not saying it'll work for everyone, but it did for us.

With what Megan eats, it doesn't matter right now if it's not massively varied or even hugely healthy super foods or whatever. My HV said I should try to offer protein, dairy, fruit, vege & carbs each day... and things like yogurt cover dairy, non meat protein & carbs for example, so it's actually pretty good... one of my nephews only ate breakfast cereals & tinned spaghetti for 4 months... he just refused point blank to eat anything else & would act like he was terrified & scream as if we were trying to pison him... to be honest, he didn't start eating properly until a few weeks before he started school & even now is fussy & hates getting messy... and if you try too hard to get him to try something new, he snaps & breaks down & then refuses even the things he likes... I think a lot of that stemmed from the fact his father used to try to force feed him as a baby & toddler & it's really messed him up. And I think that's why I try to keep Harry's mealtimes lighthearted & fun & try not to worry if more of it ends up on the floor than in his tummy & to just 'go with it.' I honestly believe babies pick up on our anxieties, so if somehow you can make her mealtimes as stress free & kinda 'silly' as possible, she will be more inclined to experiment & try things & eventually get on with herself.

Maybe write a post in the weaning section of BnB, as I'm sure there must be other mum's out there with babies who are difficult eaters, and they might be able to help more?
 
oh, meant to say, I'm off to Norwich till sunday, so I wont be online till monday I imagine, so I hope everyone has a great rest-of-the-wekk & a super weekend :thumbup:

Oh and I have definitely got my 1st period back... Guess that means that when the sex drive decides to grace me with an appearence, we can officially say we're NTNP/TTC, so that's kinda cool.

Still having some 'issues' here; think it's gonna be a while before everything's sorted, but in the meantime, it's a case of 'put up & shut up' for me & OH... and he better start doing as he's bloody told, lol, or i'll cut his bollocks off. lol. (okay maybe not his bollocks coz I need them for future kiddies, hehe)

anyways.... better start cooking dinner.
 
Still having some 'issues' here; think it's gonna be a while before everything's sorted, but in the meantime, it's a case of 'put up & shut up' for me & OH... and he better start doing as he's bloody told, lol, or i'll cut his bollocks off. lol. (okay maybe not his bollocks coz I need them for future kiddies, hehe)

Goodness, it's issues all round at the mo! Hope you sort out ASAP. As for the sex drive, are you sure it ever comes back? LOL. Oh, and I see you say 'kiddies' rather 'kiddy' ... interesting ... :-)
 
Colsy - Thanks so much for your support especially when you have so much going on yourself. Megan is FF but also she has EBM too so best of both worlds. I try not to worry about the solids but when she was doing so great before and would try and eat absolutely everything I offered its so hard. I guess I find it hard because she drinks so very little milk too, only 10-14oz a day at most. She's also tiny and has lost weight in the past and didn't gain for months so I suppose I'm scared of that too. :cry:
Oh changing the subject completely...just wanted to say fantastic picture of Monty. He's so cute with his Rugby ball and looks like quite a chunky, cuddly, chappy. :baby:

Florabean -Thanks also to you as I know you have some issues going on aswell. I try really hard to make mealtimes fun. We've even done the floor picnic a few times and I always let her get her hands stuck into everything she's eating. Even the yoghurt which is sooooo messy. But nothing seems to work at the moment. OH and I both love our food so its gonna be really exhausting if she does turn out to be a fussy eater. What a mare!!! Its a good job she's cute :haha: Have a great time in Norwich!
 
Flora, AF returning sure does suck big time hey, I was disgusted that mine returned when Ethan was just 4 months old!!! I thought,hoped, with me BFing I wouldnt get them back for at least 6 months. And I'm another who has lost sex drive COMPLETELY! I've never had much of one to start with so it's no good!

Well, health visitor came and was rather taken with Ethan, wanted to take him home with her, he was on top form,showing off,showing her all his tricks lol. He weighs 18lb 10oz which places him on the 25th centile, and between 25th and 50th for his length.

Cute pic of Monty colsy, nice to see him at last! xx
 
Evening all,

How are we all? :flower:

Megansmum - What everyone else has said :thumbup: Try not to worry too much and let her find her way. I remember watching a documentary once about fussy kids who ate nothing but cheese and chocolate and they were healthy and happy children. Not overweight or malnourished or anything. I'm sure she'll find her comfort zone too but as long as she's getting her milk, she'll be fine.

Flora - not sure what's happened but I too noticed the 'kiddies' thing :haha: S'alright, we make the same mistake all the time and my MIL goes white at the thought of the babysitting duties! :haha:

Colsy - Glad that everything seems to be going in a positive direction. :flower: Try to get some rest if you can and take some more time for yourselves.

Quite exciting news - my interview is for a cashiers job at a bookies within walking distance of the house. I've just heard from the Museum and it's looking all the more promising (looking at arranging my 2nd interview for the next 2-3 weeks for a November start). I've got to sort out a few things but all good.

Hmmmmmm nothing much else to report except for a very hyperactive Earl who has learnt to throw and chase things! :wacko:

Flora - have a nice time in Norwich. I loved it when we went to have a look round. I'm so looking forward to living there!!! :thumbup:
 
Hi girls. Sorry I've not been around much but its been proper manic. Maffie - :hugs: sounds like you're having a time of it again. Hope things get better and you manage to sort Noah's temp.

I'm so sorry to not answer all the comments but im exhausted and can't remember half of what I just read! James eats huge amounts. He will have a weetabix and a piece of toast for breakfast with about 6oz milk, for lunch he has a stage 3 meal and 2 fromage frais usually followed by whatever we are eating cos he can't possibly not eat my food lol. Dinner he will have something like beans on toast, cottage pie etc. Followed by a fruit pot and then some of our food. He snacks on those organic snack things, biscuits, fruit, toast, all sorts. He generally has somewhere between 10 and 20oz milk and roughly 5oz juice or water.

I am feeling crap crap crap atm. This implant is playing havoc with my periods. I have had about 6 periods in the last 2 months. I literally stopped bleeding last Monday and was back on again by Saturday. I think I'm getting anaemic cos I feel really breathless and exhausted and people keep commenting I look pale. Can't even get a drs appointment til next week either! Just so fed up of it now. Tempted to get the wretched thing out but so not a good time to fall pregnant. Anyhoo I am skidaddling to bed before my brain explodes. Night night x
 
Hey LK, good to hear from you. Sorry you're having a tough time :hugs: Nice to hear about James's healthy appetite :thumbup:
 
Just back from 10month development check with HV. All fine. The only milestone he hasn't achieved is putting a cube in a cup. I pointed out that he can take objects out of containers but not put them in, and she seemed surprised, saying that taking them out is considered more difficult. Personally I don't understand this, because surely more coordination is required to put something into a certain space. Anyway, there you go.

OH and I continuing to work together very well and hold our silence when necessary rather than immediately snapping each time something goes awry. We are both pleased with how we've done so far. I think actually writing some of the things down made us realise a lot, and it has most definitely helped us move on a bit. We've even been chatting about this and that rather than constantly griping at each other, which is fab :happydance:

We had another bad night with Monty. It wasn't illness or teeth - in fact I am actually much more capable of dealing with those nights, because then I KNOW that he needs attention and fuss and cuddles. Last night was, yet again, him simply waking up for no reason whatsoever (barely even wanted to BF - just tried biting me on both sides:growlmad:) and then refusing point blank to go back to sleep. I lost it and simply put him down in his cot and walked away, so OH then took over and spent another hour by the cot lying him down every 30seconds because he kept trying to stand up or crawl. I think we got two lots of 3hours of sleep last night, with an interval of just over an hour. That's kind of pretty standard now. It's not the lack of sleep per se that bothers me, but the broken nature of the sleep. If I got those six hours combined every night, I'd almost be ecstatic with it now. I simply can't believe that at 10months, my biggest topic of conversation is still sleep! We are currently researching some sleep practitioners online - you know like the one Megewansmum recommended? Only she's in Canada, so I thought we'd try a little closer to Sheffield first ;-)
 
We are currently researching some sleep practitioners online - you know like the one Megewansmum recommended? Only she's in Canada, so I thought we'd try a little closer to Sheffield first ;-)

Hi Colsy - So pleased that the 10 month check went well and if putting a cube in a container is the only milestone Monty hasn't reached, well that's absolutely fantastic. :happydance: Megan has never hit any of hers. She didn't sit unsupported until she was 8 months! She still doesn't crawl, doesn't make any attempt to, doesn't pull herself up to standing and never wants to walk anywhere with support. The peds put it down to her being so poorly for so long when she was born. But she's very inquisitive and always busy at something so nothing wrong with her in that way thankfully. Just slow with her gross motor skills.

Pam Nease, the sleep consultant, is based in Canada but helps parents and babies worldwide. I know she's helped couples in Hawaii, UAE and England too. She will give you a 2 hour consultation by Skype, do a personalised routine for you and will follow your progress daily or every couple of days via Skype or e-mail. Honestly I wouldn't have recommended her if I thought she couldn't help you. I put a post about her on the Baby Whisperer site and she helped loads of people at wits end like we were. I still get e-mails now. It is definitely not a crying it out method but I warn you there will be some crying involved. The only difference is that one of you will stay whilst Monty learns to fall asleep on his own without needing mum or dad to do it. I will be honest, the first couple of nights were bad but in less than a week it was amazing. I only wish I had found her sooner as like you we went through nights of hell for months. Do you have a nap and bedtime routine? This is one thing that really helped us. Both routines are exactly the same except bedtime involves a bottle whereas naps don't. She has her bottles when she wakes from the naps. I change her diaper, read a book with her (which she picks herself now and turns the pages...really cute), sing her a lullaby (twinkle, twinkle as it's all I know and I sound awful but she doesn't seem to mind) then she settles into her cot with her blankie and falls asleep. Its really amazing considering how it used to be. The one thing you need to watch for is that you shouldn't nurse to sleep. I give Megan her bottle before the book and lullaby so that she doesn't associate falling asleep with bottle or boob. That is where our issue was before. Following Sleepsense it is easier if OH does all the nightwakings that way Monty will know that nursing isn't an option. My OH was none too pleased at the prospect but it helped so much and made the process so much quicker. Hope this helps.:hugs:
 
Colsy - Sorry to hear about monty's bad night. I know it seems a bit simplistic but if he wants to stand up leave him to it. We have done CC with Earl for 3 months now and I know you tried CC and it didn't work for Monty but the Sleep Sense stuff is a bit like the CC except you stay in the room and monitor them more andgo to them if you think they're getting too unhappy. If Earls having a bad night now (as we're lviing with MIL I don't like to leave him to cry too much) I'll sit on the bed opposite his cot and ignore him until he starts to get tired. If he stands up or starts to get unhappy I'll cuddle him then lie him back down. He'll drop to his knees and start to lie with his head on the mattress (bottom in the air lol) and start to groan and throw himself around a bit. I often lie down and pretend to be asleep or sit on the floor next to the cot and try to get him to lie down next to me by tapping the mattrss (limited success with that for us but I'e heard other people do it well). I find if I keep going in to lie Earl down he gets worse rather than better....much better to let him figure out that you've 'committed to the cot' and it's time to sleep. I know it's probably unwanted advice but it worked/works for Earl and he can be a right little Monkey at times. BTW I'm glad to hear that you and OH are ok :hugs: Hope things continue to improve. :flower:
 
I know it's probably unwanted advice but it worked/works for Earl and he can be a right little Monkey at times. BTW I'm glad to hear that you and OH are ok :hugs: Hope things continue to improve. :flower:

Not unwanted at all. Thank you for any advice you give - it all helps to make me come to some decisions. That sentence doesn't make any sense ... that's cos I've just had another bad night, I'm knackered, and I've just realised I've made a huge cock-up re a deadline for the project I'm working on at the mo, and I've just had to send a huge grovelling note to the project editor ... I just hope I managed to make sense in that, LOL!
 
Morning all,

Colsy hope you find a way to get Monty to settle I must admit nothing seemed to work with Noah then he just seemed to figure it out.

Just had a call today and we have a date to see a surgeon, thankfully only a few weeks away, he's still not himself though so if temp keeps going and his bowel habits keep playing up it will be another doc's appointment.
 
***WARNING, RANT AHEAD***

Can we please just catch a FUCKING BREAK????

So, because Missy has had a cold, as per normal after she's been sick, she now has an upset tummy, which in turn has given her an absolutely horrendous yeast nappy rash again. She couldn't even sit on her butt last night because it was so sore, never mind get a nappy on her!! I'm so SICK of this shit. So now she's back on the anti diarrhoea soy formula- liquid only diet for the day while we try and get that to clear up.

I tell ya, its nuts here. Its got to end soon right? I've never know such a run of bad luck!!

And breath.

*ahem* Mornin' Girls :)

On the plus side, Missy took 3 steps on Tuesday by her self! Then later in the day she took another 2 steps at Gymboree!
 
Really sorry about your run of bad luck Chaos! Hope things get better soon. Well done to Autumn on taking her first steps x
 
WTG Autumn, she's coming along so well. Hopefully the bad luck will piss off to put it not so politely hugs:
 
Well I called the Dr and had a chat .. she seems to think it could be a dairy intolerance .. Gotta cut out all milk products .. that means cheese, mac n cheese, yoghurt .. my kid is gonna starve lol, she loves all that stuff!!
 
Maffie - Great that you have an appointment with the surgeon. :thumbup: Hope Noah feels better soon.

Chaos - So sorry to hear that Autumn is so poorly. Fingers crossed your luck will change soon. Megan has a cows milk protein/dairy allergy and its really hard to find stuff that she can eat. Even bread contains trace elements of milk. Also milk isn't always labelled as milk it can come under whey, casein etc. It sucks having to read labels all the time and not letting her have nice stuff that other babies can have!!! You can get soy or tofu cheese and soy yoghurt but admittedly not too nice but Megan doesn't know any different. Not sure how Autumn would take to it now she's had lovely, proper tasting stuff though. Also did the doctor say that if you are BF then you must cut out all dairy too? Not sure if you still are or not at the moment. :hugs: Fantastic that she's taking steps on her own at such a young age. :happydance: Megan isn't even crawling yet!!!
 
Hey Chaos, sending you :hugs: Sounds like you're having a crap time:nope:

On a good note, Monty has been superbly happy ALL day. Like, stupidly happy. It's bizarre, I mean he's usually a pretty happy kid in the day (ha, not at night though when we're almost pinning him down to go to sleep!), but he's pretty much spent all of today properly laughing at what seems to be nothing at all :wacko: I ain't complaining, I just think it's totally random. :haha: Makes us laugh as well, though, which can only be A Good Thing. Plus OH and I are sooo getting on better after our massive discussion. Bit of another crap night last night, but I tried a new technique for his morning nap. I decided to sit in his room on a chair but not touching him, a bit like on that Ch.4 prog last week (we watched it last night on 4OD, after everyone told us we should!). Anyway, each time he tried to sit or stand up, I simply laid him down again. Sooo... after laying him down 49 times (yes, I said 49! Seriously!), he got the message and went to sleep. I did the same thing this evening for bedtime, and I didn't have to lay him down once - I just sat in the chair while he drifted off. Now we shall see what happens tonight ...

I may be incommunicado for the next week, but I'll fill you in on any goss once I'm back online.

Bye for now xx
 

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