Bumpkins & Babies Chat Thread

[florabean1981]

milosmum & welcome back mellie

Harry's pretty chatty, although most of it is random babble that outside of that particular setting, woiuld probably not make any sense, lol. I get what he means most of the time, but not sure anyone else would. He's always been a noisy one though!

How was everyone's mother's day?

How accident prone are all your LOs these days? Harry's going through a seriously clumsy patch. I'm wondering if he's having a growth spurt or something, coz he's constantly bashing into things, banging his head, launching himself off the sofas, running about & falling over, etc. He's gotten kinda chubby again, so wonder if he'll suddenly shoot up like last time? Either way, I hope he's less accident prone soon as I'm starting to worry all the banged head will kill off his brain cells!

anyways. Hope everyone had a nice weekend. It's out 1st wedding anniversary on the 8th, so hubby has a 4 day weekend next week, so that'll be cool... altho we'll prob just spend the time to sort the garden out, which is hideously over run with weeds at the moment. then the week after, we're going to see Avenue Q again & going out for a nice meal; we won free tickets, so may as well use them!

 

[Fraggles]

Morning all

We get some accidents mainly head bumps when he doesn't realise how tall he is. I have to go buy new pjs today as the 9-12 month ones are too small. (They are still fine in body but length is just silly)

Colds hitting us all I'm bunged up and looks like J has a little cough, N cough is bad.

 

[colsy]

Morning all, although it could be night for all I know ... we've had some serious setbacks with sleeping, and I feel like we've got a teething 6-month-old on our hands. He won't go to bed on his own - me or OH has to lie on the floor and pretend to sleep. When (and it's always "when", not "if" at the moment) he wakes in the night he cries for us immediately and the only solution is to lie on the floor pretending to sleep next to him. He's waking several times a night. He's waking for the day earlier than usual. He's severely upset when he wakes in the night. Calpol doesn't seem to settle him. Blah blah blah blah blah blah. Oh, and then to top it all, he was sick three times on Saturday night - a shock for us, because this is only the second time he's ever vomited properly. Poor sweetheart didn't know what was going on, and boy did he make some right proper grown-up pukey noises

So we have all of that, and then each day he wakes up and he behaves entirely normally, like there's nothing wrong at all and like he's had an entirely normal night.

This has been ongoing now for almost ten days. Each night is a little bit worse, and last night was the worst yet in this phase. It's really odd. I don't get it. Surely if it's his teeth they would hurt all the time, not only in the middle of the night? But also surely if he was ill, he would be ill in the day as well, not only at midnight?

OH is going to take him to the doc this morning, while I try to get some work done. We are both pretty zonked, but I've got to finish this project, so don't have much option.

To finish on a happy note, despite all of this night-time stuff, we had a really lovely weekend - farmer's market, ice-creams outside, a new playground, and a lovely walk.

Mellie, welcome back :wave: and MilosMommy7, hello and welcome :wave:

 

[Kaites]

Morning ladies!

Hope everyone had a good weekend Ours was busy as usual. We went out to my bil's place on Sat evening. Emma played shy with him for about 15 min but then he put some kids programming on netflix and she settled right in like she owned the place. Yesterday I got an insane amount of gardening done while Emma napped (cleared out all the beds that are snow-free and started a pile of seeds in the house for a veggie garden this year- insane for me anyway, lol). Hubby is talking about clearing me out a big patch of the lawn, turning it into a big veg garden and installing irrigation- that'd be great since not only would we have fresh veggies but I wouldn't have to mow as much grass and wouldn't have to water the garden Yesterday my parents and brother came over for dinner too- nice way to end the weekend

Emma only says Mama if she's sick- I guess it's a comfort thing. She's definitely a daddy's girl atm though! She does this daddy chant that cracks me up.

Mellie & Milosmommy-

Colsy- Sorry to hear you are having a crappy time with sleep again Emma's teething again too and it's always 100% worse at night. It's like during the day she's too distracted to notice them bothering her (well, most of the time anyway) but at night they seem to really play up. I hope they come through quickly and Monty's sleep resumes back to normal for you Sounds like a lovely weekend though

Fraggles- Hope you are all feeling better soon

Flora- Sounds like a growth spurt to me- Emma and friends all get clumsy when they get longer. It drives me crazy because they like to bring toys into the kitchen and don't realize that they are too tall to stand up under the table so I spend the day comforting bumps on heads I think we might be starting a growth spurt too- hubby and I were commenting last night that Emma's starting to get a bit chubbier too.

Haappy belated Mother's Day UK ladies Hope everyone was spoiled by family

I better get going- Emma dragged more mud into the front hall so I better mop before the munchkins start arriving. Hope everyonen is having a good day

 

[Kte]

Afternoon ladies,

A quick one from me as I aren't feeling too well - still so I managed to get a doc appointment at ten to six! The last one, I was on the phone none stop trying to get through from 8.30 for 20mins. The receptionist / secretary said they may be full as there is somone just deciding on the last slot and could she help - er no, I need a doctor! Thankfully this someone decided to say no and I managed to get the last slot.

So that means I have Chloe off with me, I have been desperate for her to go for a nap so I can re-coup a bit, I could do with a nap myself! One of the reasons I am off to the doc.

Welcome back Mellie I remember you as you have a Halloween baba too

Flora: Sounds like some nice anniversary plans Random sort-a related fact, Chloe has been at her nursery a full year on the 8th! lol

Fraggles: for you all and hope you all feel better soon

Colsy: Sorry to hear Monty's sleep is getting worse. Chloe also seems to get more grief with the teeth at night, as Kaites finds with Emma - however, not come across sick with teething before, just when she had a random bug once. Hope the docs help / helped

Growing wise, if she has she is always falling over, can't get used to her longer legs, generally no head bumps but she doesn't really do much / go near anything at home to be able to bump her head. She is good at falling off of things like her ride on car too. I'm hoping no growth spurts lol We put her in a 2-3yrs top yesterday and minus the sleeve length been a tiny bit too long, and I mean a tiny bit, it fit perfectly I noticed all her 12-18 month vests are starting to stretch a bit now too length wise.

Arrrrrrrr accidental delete key!!!

Chaos: Hope no accidents today

Milo's mummy: Glad your OH has been helping out Speech wise, Chloe only just decided to say Mama last weekend so for about a week and she has only said it a handful of times. Mostly babbles but she can say Dada, ta, yeah, uh-o, cat, doggie and see-saw. She can make animal noises such as roarrrr and sssssss and she tries a few other too but she knows these and which animals they belong to.

LK: Oh dear about the hayfever, my flowes are currently trying to kill me too, they are really pretty. I have had to pluck out a few offenders and the hayfever seems to be settling now. Hopefully, if he does have it, he gets to grow out of it

Kaites: Glad Emma was finally okay with BIL! We are supposed to be getting a veg patch at some point but Nij keeps changing the garden plans - I just want somewhere Chloe can run around in come summer this year at the very least, would be nice if we could though. We planted a sunflower, tomatoes and strawberries yesterday from some little kits for Chloe so fingers crossed they grow!

Aimee: I know how you feel without the Mummy word. Still, they sure can let you know when your wanted They do seem to like fancy dress! At least all the staff take part too - I think its an excuse for them Any luck hunting one down for Earl?

 

[colsy]

I'd forgotten what CIO was like. Just done it for half an hour. Not sure whether Monty or I was crying hardest. I'm done, off to bed, miserable and feeling sorry for myself and for doing this to my baby.

 

[Kaites]

Colsy

 

[MilosMommy7]

the past couple of days Milo has started smacking and biting. i knew that it wasnt going to never start, but i was really glad that he had made it to 17 months without being a hitter. it just sucks that it started right before i'm about to have DD

 

[Nanaki]

Hi girls. Hope you all are well.

MilosMummy - welcome! I cant seems to remember you, have you changed the username?

Yesterday morning, Billy has climbed over the cot and fell and had woke me up at 8.30am as he rarely cried but he did that morning. It has shocked me because he knows he is capable of climb over the cot again! But he is fine within 5 mins when Mummy got to him.

Tomorrow is my hospital appointment to see my consultant and my mum is coming with me to watch Billy while I am able to concentrate on the interpreter without Billy distrubs me.

Hope your weekend were good for you all? Xxxx

 

[Mumof42009]

hope everybody is doing ok
Happy belated mother's day to you all didn't come on Sunday was a bit of a hard day for me but it's getting easier.

Hi to the newbies
Colsy- Sorry Monty's not sleeping well your not the only one hun, 6 times last night Adi was up makes you feel so crappy in the morning doesn't it?
Kte- Hope your ok x
Nanaki- Hope your appointment goes ok

Adi went through a few weeks where he was forever banging his head and tripping he has got much better now tho, touch wood

 

[colsy]

6 times last night Adi was up makes you feel so crappy in the morning doesn't it?

back to you, Mumof42009. Any idea why Adi keeps waking? Is it teeth? Illness? Separation anxiety? Or is it the case (like me!) that he now has you doing exactly what he wants, and he hates it when you try to do anything different? I am sure this is totally what's going on with us - Monty has realised that if he yells, I cave in and go and see him ... so of course he yells big time, because he knows what the end result will be. I need to break the cycle. Sorry if none of that makes sense - I am so tired it's untrue. I feel like I'm back in the land of feeding a newborn every two hours at night.

 

[Mumof42009]

6 times last night Adi was up makes you feel so crappy in the morning doesn't it?

back to you, Mumof42009. Any idea why Adi keeps waking? Is it teeth? Illness? Separation anxiety? Or is it the case (like me!) that he now has you doing exactly what he wants, and he hates it when you try to do anything different? I am sure this is totally what's going on with us - Monty has realised that if he yells, I cave in and go and see him ... so of course he yells big time, because he knows what the end result will be. I need to break the cycle. Sorry if none of that makes sense - I am so tired it's untrue. I feel like I'm back in the land of feeding a newborn every two hours at night.

Not sure what's wrong with him, he crys out in his sleep and then don't settle for ages. He sleeps with me most times because he climbs out his cot into my bed not ideal but only way I get some sleep. He has never been a good sleeper.
I went through everything is he hungry, is he hot/cold, teething but after doing everything to make sure wasn't those I think he just doesn't like sleep lol.
Have you tried to leave him and see if he just settles back off himself? x

 

[colsy]

I went through everything is he hungry, is he hot/cold, teething but after doing everything to make sure wasn't those I think he just doesn't like sleep lol.
Have you tried to leave him and see if he just settles back off himself? x

LOL, Oh yes. Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at you, I was just thinking how you obviously don't know the full story here! Basically, like you, we had a child who just didn't like sleeping. We eventually hit rock bottom, and both OH and I felt like we were so tired that we were incapable of parenting, and we were so run down that we were constantly ill and it felt like our relationship was falling to pieces. At that point we needed to do something, so we used a sleep clinic, and after a very short time we had Monty going to bed at night in his cot without us, and then sleeping through the night most nights. He has never done other people's houses very well, and he is still an early-bird, but they are the only two negatives. Everything else sleep-related was just amazing. So, to get to that point, we did have to some horrible controlled crying sessions, but although they seemed to last forever, they worked their magic in less than a week.

So back to your question - yes, we do leave him to self-settle. And until this past week, he's been great at waking in the night, whingeing for a minute or so, and then going back to sleep. I guess the longest we'd leave him to cry in the night would be about five minutes, maybe ten when we were sure he wasn't ill, and he would almost always go back to sleep. Suddenly however, he can't (or won't) go to bed unaided at night, and when he wakes in the night he just cries and cries until he reaches fever-pitch, at which point we obviously can't leave him. This has basically happened over a period of ten days. It started just before we went away for a weekend, wasn't too bad while we were away, and then by the time we were back home it got worse every night.

So last night I put him into bed, laid on the floor until I thought he was asleep, left his room and bang on cue he yelled. I went downstairs, listened to him screaming and bawled my eyes out like I didn't know was possible. (I had to put my jeans in the wash because they had so much snot on them from me crying, TMI!) This lasted half a bloody hour. It was torture for everybody. Then in the evening he woke at 10.30, cried for 4 minutes, then went back to sleep. Then woke at 6am, cried 1 minute, then back to sleep. Then woke at 6.30am, cried 1 minute, then back to sleep. And then finally woke entirely happy at 7am.

So you tell me - did my cry-it-out work? Was it a fluke? Will we have to do it tonight?

Sorry, I have totally rambled on here. Enough from me. xx

 

[florabean1981]

i personally don't have the nerve or stomach for CC or CIO, but i guess you gotta do what you gotta do for a happy household.
Has anything changed in his life right now that could be making him feel anxious? Could it be bad dreams? Has he got more teeth coming or trapped wind? Is he too hot or cold? Could he be hungry or thirsty? What time does he go to bed? (i ask coz if i was to try and put harry to bed at 7pm, for example like most kids his age, i am 100% sure he would scream the place down, but when we put him down when he starts to show signs of tiredness at about 8/8:30pm, he goes up, has his teeth cleaned, we give him a kiss, pop him in his cot with his nightlight on & he just lays down & falls asleep with no fuss at all...) What have you replaced his bedtime BF with? Does he still nap well during the day?

(sorry for all the dumb questions!)

 

[colsy]

Has anything changed in his life right now that could be making him feel anxious?

Not that I can think of.

Could it be bad dreams?

Yes, I suppose it could be. I wonder how we know whether it is that? But Q: would that make him so reluctant to go to bed in the first place?

Has he got more teeth coming or trapped wind? Is he too hot or cold? Could he be hungry or thirsty?

I don't think it's temp or hunger/thirst. However, yes, it could be teeth. I've mentioned on here before: how come if it IS teeth he's entirely fine all day and then the MINUTE I lean over the cot with him he screams?

What time does he go to bed?

Bed routine starts about 7pm. Nothing too rigid, but roughly we go upstairs at 7pm, and he's in his cot by about 7.30pm. Been this way since Sept of last year, so nothing has changed there - apart from of course the clocks going forward (but then this all started before the clock change, so it can't be that).

What have you replaced his bedtime BF with?

Tried chamomile tea but he wasn't bothered by it. Now has a mug of warm milk.

Does he still nap well during the day?

Depends what you mean by 'well'. Yes, in that he sleeps for 1-2hrs in the pram or the car. No, in that he flatly won't sleep in his cot in the daytime (been that way for aeons now).

Thanks for asking these questions - they're not dumb at all.

 

[florabean1981]

in that case, i have no idea then!!! Those are all the 'obvious' things that can contribute to dodgy sleep... oh and growth spurts i guess?



I am having a shit day today.... My back is killing me again. My insides are killing me again. I have also just come on, grrrrr. Had some pretty weird comments aimed at me yesterday from some stupid woman who had some very, very odd interpretations of baby led weaning, self weaning & what is apparently normal for all us mum's to be doing 7 when i stood up for some ladies saying the general populations would not consider those things normal, nor abnormal, but in saying the things she did, would've upset a lot of people who had not done it her 'superior 'true' way,' so that annoyed me. then today on Facebook i put as a status that i wished i had a housecleaning fairy & a grocery shopping elf to help me out.... then a girl I used to go to school with put as her status a big rant about SAHM & skivvy housewives sitting on our arses all day moaning about cleaning. Try getting a job & fitting all that in & being able to spend more time with your kid etc etc etc. usual rant from her really. i knew it was aimed at me & then loads of her friends started going on about people they knew who did the same.... then she said, it just annoys her that she isn';t lucky enough to have a husband who earns loads, so she has to work & would rather spend time at home with her son than working & commuting all the time & people like 'that' (meaning me) should think how lucky we are being able to stay home & do whatever we want.... It's really gotten to me.... I nknow i'm really lucky to be able to a SAHM, but that doesn't mean i dont have the right to ask for some help every now & then, especially on days like today when i'm in so much pain & can hardly walk coz of my stupid back.... When did we all get so judgmental? i know i'm guilty of judging people all too often, but whatever happened to supporting eachother's decisions & not having cheap digs via social networking sites rather than having the guts to say it to your face?

i dunno, i'm waffling. back to reality I suppose. Need to get harry up (he's still asleep!!!) & go shopping.

 

[colsy]

FloraBean. And thanks for working through the sleep with me Yeah, growth spurts ... I think there's defo a lot of development going on at the mo ...

 

[Kte]

Flora. I think she has the case of the green eyed monster. I think I have said it before, FB has a lot to answer to! Some people just think its okay to do and say whatever on there and social, hmm rules perhaps, not sure on how to put it but common courtesy and things like just seem to not apply to some people on there. Its really rather odd. I don't think either occupation in life is easy, working mum or SAHM.

Colsy: Hope you have a better night tonight.

Argh I best go, I made the mistake of letting CHloe play a game on my laptop and if I so much as glance at it she wants to come on so thats me buggered for 5mins R&R whilst she plays by herself.

 

[Fraggles]

Colsy N wont go in the room he's in, he used to in the old house and he seems wary of this room be it day or night.

Im soooo tired tonight, it keeps hitting me that I need a break.

 

[MilosMommy7]

nanaki - nope, this has been my first time chatting in this thread. and i dont chat much around BnB.