CC/CIO Support and Information Thread

Lysh - that is great! My girls were always grumpy between last nap and bedtime when young babies. Jordan has gotten much better about that recently but she needs lots of attention after dinner.

Megan - I honestly don't believe in wonder weeks. No one can convince me that when no kids learn to roll over at exactly the same time, crawl at the same time, first word at exactly the same week. They all learn different things at different times. Megan had stranger anxiety by 4 months. Jordan didn't have it that early. Jordan clapped before Megan did. Megan rolled before Jordan. Whenever Megan learned anything - whether it was something obvious like crawling or something less obvious it always affected her sleep. She was a very early talker and many times has had bad nights sleep because of practicing talking in her bed or crib. A few nights of horrible sleep and then we realize she was in the process of learning something.

Certain - up to you which way you want to go, if you want to tackle bedtime first. Do you do a nap routine?
 
Ahhhh ok, yeah that is a good point that every baby/child learns at their own pace.
 
Lysh - that is great! My girls were always grumpy between last nap and bedtime when young babies. Jordan has gotten much better about that recently but she needs lots of attention after dinner.

Megan - I honestly don't believe in wonder weeks. No one can convince me that when no kids learn to roll over at exactly the same time, crawl at the same time, first word at exactly the same week. They all learn different things at different times. Megan had stranger anxiety by 4 months. Jordan didn't have it that early. Jordan clapped before Megan did. Megan rolled before Jordan. Whenever Megan learned anything - whether it was something obvious like crawling or something less obvious it always affected her sleep. She was a very early talker and many times has had bad nights sleep because of practicing talking in her bed or crib. A few nights of horrible sleep and then we realize she was in the process of learning something.

Certain - up to you which way you want to go, if you want to tackle bedtime first. Do you do a nap routine?

I agree that Eleanor sleeps badly when she is learning something, rolling was particularly bad!

I think we will stick to just bedtimes for now, we dont really have a nap routine :( I do make the room dark and put her in her sleeping bag, we also still use white noise so I put that on. I have started to find that she needs a nap 3 hours after waking and then about 3 hours after waking from that nap so I have been trying do that a bit. It tends to work for the morning one but not the afternoons very often. She generally has 2 30min naps a day but i know she needs more :(
 
I've found with Jordan that she takes way longer naps after she can fall sleep in her crib by herself vs on me and me laying her down. I would think the afternoon nap doesn't work as well as she is overtired. Jordan doesn't make it 3 hrs in between naps and she takes longer naps. So on 1/2 hr nap she is probably tired.

How is she falling asleep now for naps? As sleep sack and white noise is part of a nap routine! If you do it every time for naps then they get used to that as a sleep cue. It helps them get ready for sleeping. The timing of it I think of more as a schedule vs routine. Like bedtime routine would be pjs eat bed, or bath, books, bed, or whatever. It doesn't matter what the routine is as long as you do it the same in the same order every time.
 
Question for you ladies:

My daughter is 7 months old and we co-sleep. She started out sleeping in her bassinet until she out grew it maybe a month or so ago. I tried putting her in her crib, but it was too tiring for me to keep going up & down the stairs to what seemed like every hour because she can't find her passi and I have to be at work early in the morning. Plus I didn't mind becasue I liked to cuddle with my little princes.

Now, were at the stage where my daughter moves in her sleep. I mean she will sit up and just fall over while sleep. She can now find her passi while she is sleep. I just need some advice on how to transition her to the crib. She is just too active in the bed while sleep. I know I have to stop being lazy and tough it out and I am willing to do that. If I could have some help or advice without judgement would be AWSOME. Thanks ladies.
 
I personally would start transitioning slowly. Get her starting the night out in her own bed and then after whatever time period you feel comfortable with, bring her into bed with you. Slowly increase the amount of time she's in her bed until she's there all night.
Some people might say that cold turkey is the best route, but I prefer a slower approach for my family

We part time cosleep. LO goes down in her own crib between 7:30-8pm and usually comes to bed with us between 12-2am depending on her wake ups. I'm happy with this because it gives me some alone time in bed and some cuddle time with her. That said, she's still easy to cosleep with as she doesn't move much
 
Night 4 of little girl in her own crib....no tears and she slept better. She had a 3 hour stretch and then 2 hour stretches. She also took 2 naps in her crib today...one was an hour long and another was 50 min. This is huge for her as she is a 30-40min napper!
 
Thanks Libby, I tried something like that about 2 weeks ago. When she fell asleep I put her in her bed and she slept in for a few hours but then woke up and I ended up taking her back down stairs with me.

Would you suggest putting a stuffed animal in there with her?

I am going to try and start transition her again Friday night.
 
Night 4 of little girl in her own crib....no tears and she slept better. She had a 3 hour stretch and then 2 hour stretches. She also took 2 naps in her crib today...one was an hour long and another was 50 min. This is huge for her as she is a 30-40min napper!

That is so awesome! :hugs:
 
Thanks Libby, I tried something like that about 2 weeks ago. When she fell asleep I put her in her bed and she slept in for a few hours but then woke up and I ended up taking her back down stairs with me.

Would you suggest putting a stuffed animal in there with her?

I am going to try and start transition her again Friday night.

We do :) LO has a snuggly little dog that she cuddles while I'm nursing her and then he goes in the crib with her. She often plays with and snuggles him when she's trying to fall asleep
 
Megan did very well with a transitional object. She used a very small taggie blanket for a while and when she was a bit older she started liking a bigger fleece baby blanket that has been "blankie" ever sense.

I say go with whatever seems to work for both of you, china girl. If you are able to go slowly it might be easier on both of you. But if you try that for a little while and don't get the results you want, then you can step back and look and see what might work better.

Lysh - so glad it's going better! Any progress is good progress I think!
 
Hi girls.

How does cc work if the child is still in your bedroom? I'm currently say up with poppy while she's watching replays of giglebiz on tv :dohh: this used to bean occasional thing but since she's had a cold it's gotten to be every night now. I know she's okay she's not hungry, nappy okay, not feeling I'll (I know the cry) she's just got into this habit of waking up and once she's awake she wants to be down stairs I'm knackered lol I just sit here until she's ready to go back to bed and even then she doesn't usually go right to sleep, she cries and fusses a bit.

I'm thinking the problem is she wakes up and sees us so automatically thinks well get up with her (which of course we have) we can't put her in her own room just yet as its not ready is cc an option for us still?


:help:??? X
 
Mommy brain at its finest- I posted this in the wrong thread last night.:dohh:

Night 5 and she is having a setback. The minute I put her in her crib she started crying.:nope: Mommy's nerves are shot tonight. I have tremendous mother's guilt about returning to work in 2 weeks and right now her crying is like a knife in my gut.

This is after having an awesome night last night and an amazing day with naps. Her mood was excellent today too, probably because she slept so well!

Not sure where all of this is coming from....hopefully it is a minor setback and not going to last all night. I feel like it is day 1 all over again!
:cry:


*** So as an update, the rest of the night was not amazing. I am not sure why we went form such a better night/day to this! She did get a few 2 hour stretches, but she cried a few more times during the night and then woke up at 5. I brought her to the couch again and we fell asleep together while she nursed until 6:30. I just needed sleep!!!! DH and I were snapping at each other last night too- ugh. It was one of those nights. All I could think when I woke up at 5 was that in a week and a half that is when I have to get ready for work. I am not sure how I will survive if this does not consistently improve. My job is high pressure this year and if I do not do a good job it could potentially make keeping this job difficult. ugh again.

Sorry for the long vent- I am just frustrated today and hoping it improves again tonight. I went from feeling confident yesterday about everything to feeling like crap about it all today.
 
Hi girls.

How does cc work if the child is still in your bedroom? I'm currently say up with poppy while she's watching replays of giglebiz on tv :dohh: this used to bean occasional thing but since she's had a cold it's gotten to be every night now. I know she's okay she's not hungry, nappy okay, not feeling I'll (I know the cry) she's just got into this habit of waking up and once she's awake she wants to be down stairs I'm knackered lol I just sit here until she's ready to go back to bed and even then she doesn't usually go right to sleep, she cries and fusses a bit.

I'm thinking the problem is she wakes up and sees us so automatically thinks well get up with her (which of course we have) we can't put her in her own room just yet as its not ready is cc an option for us still?


:help:??? X

Hi,

Im not too sure about the 'rules' of CC on them being in with you but I imagine as long as you still leave the room or ignore her in the crying intervals then I guess it would work. I expect it is harder with an older child though. As you say its not great at the moment if she knows you will get up at any time. Sorry to not be more help. Maybe you could ask your health visitor too?
 
Well after 3 hours of sitting down stairs In the middle of the night last bit, I've had enough lol got DH painting her room as I type I'm gonna get this sorted if it kills me! X
 
lysh- :hugs: Im sorry you have had a bad night again. I have read somewhere though that there often is a setback after a few days and then it calms down again so fx tonight is better for you. It must be horrid to have the worry of work but you will cope no matter what :) and she will improve with age. Are you still going to be bf when you go back?

AFM- we have had 2 really good nights now. So the 3rd night of CC it took 2mins of crying and she slept 10 hours. Last night (4th night) it took less than a min and she slept almost 12hrs!!!! couldnt quite believe it. since doing CC she hasnt been waking for the night feed :) so so pleased its worked so far. fx it continues!!
 
Gemie- is she in a crib in your room or in your bed?
 
Gemie- is she in a crib in your room or in your bed?

A crib. We wanted to co sleep but she likes her own space so she dictated that she wanted to be on her own lol
 
Gemie- at this age she knows the pattern. She knows if she does xyz then you will let her get up. I wouldnt be bringing her out of the bedroom at all. No matter whose room she is in, she is getting up and gets to watch tv... So why stop waking if you get rewarded for waking? And tv is so stimulating for them, and screen time makes it harder for everyone to sleep ( even adults) close to bedtime.

Lysh - I'm sorry you've had a setback. :hugs: Not sure what to even say to help. But I'm here for you!
 
Gemie- at this age she knows the pattern. She knows if she does xyz then you will let her get up. I wouldnt be bringing her out of the bedroom at all. No matter whose room she is in, she is getting up and gets to watch tv... So why stop waking if you get rewarded for waking? And tv is so stimulating for them, and screen time makes it harder for everyone to sleep ( even adults) close to bedtime.

Yeah I understand this, what do you suggest to break the cycle?
 

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