CC/CIO Support and Information Thread

[Mummy Bean]

JillMc - this is a similar situation to ours. getting him to sleep is no problem. but like clock work he wakes at 11pm and refuses to go back to sleep in his cot. but if i bring him in to bed with us he asleep instantly. so far we havent minded but it started to really affect both our sleep as we dnt sleep well when he in with us. and i return to work soon.

tonight were gonna try putting him in his own room and go from there.

Can i ask do u do cc for naps times as well?

 

[Boo44]

Ah well it lasted nearly a day.....!

 

[JillMc]

JillMc - this is a similar situation to ours. getting him to sleep is no problem. but like clock work he wakes at 11pm and refuses to go back to sleep in his cot. but if i bring him in to bed with us he asleep instantly. so far we havent minded but it started to really affect both our sleep as we dnt sleep well when he in with us. and i return to work soon.

tonight were gonna try putting him in his own room and go from there.

Can i ask do u do cc for naps times as well?

MummyBean- I have no problem with nap times. Sometimes she may play for a bit or sing in her cot, but she normally goes right down for her nap on her own. Most times she sleeps for 1.5 hours, but on the rare occasions she does wake up after 30 minutes and is ready to go with no hope of her going back down to sleep. Our big problem is night time. Even if she has a good night, she still wakes at least once or twice just needing her dummy, and that has been since she was no age. But now with the fully waking up and crying I just don't know what to do. Also she is still in the rom with us and will be til we move in January, so I really dont have the option of putting her in her own room.

 

[ArmyWife1984]

I really hope this thread can stay positive and supportive for those of us who believe in this method.
I know there are people who oppose but for those of us for support it, its nice to have a place to come and talk to one another.
I know when I first started trying CC, it was nice to find other moms who have used it and can offer advice and share what worked for them.

 

[volley1980]

I really like how this thread has stayed positive for so long..I did CC with my son at 6 months..it took just a couple of days and he sleeps so well now It was taking us two hours to put him down..now it takes a minute! If he cries during the night I do feed him though..but he generally doesn't get up more than once...

 

[pinklightbulb]

Let's keep the positive vibes rolling please

 

[emsie_123]

Took a couple of days for us as well, and now she's had 2 days where she has "only" woken up at 5am, instead of the usual waking up crying and tired every 1-2 hours. It seems that CC taught her how to fall asleep. Rested baby= happy baby

 

[Randianne]

Fish can choose not to bite. Good job staying positive ladies.

Last night it took ten minutes of crying and LO slept 8 - 5! She ate and immediately went back to sleep for four more hours! Her sleep had been terrible, so I think she was catching up as she's never slept that long. When I went to get her she was giggling and playing with her feet. We'll see how it goes for nap time today, but it was so nice to see her in a good mood.

 

[lozza1uk]

Armywife - thanks. I actually gave in last night after about an hour of going in every 5 & 10 minutes. He did progress from standing crying to sitting crying but as soon as I'd lie him down he'd flip over and stand up again! He'd quieten down after a while and I'd think he was getting calmer then would suddenly wail again. I couldn't take it any longer so fed him to sleep again! He was his usual happy smiley self this morning so I don't feel like its upset him, however I'm going to give it a couple of weeks and try again (I'm away a few days so he'll r in a travel cot and I dont want to confuse things.

I really do need to help him to sleep though - he shows no tired signals at all during the day - its only because I clock watch and put him in the buggy in the dark that he naps at all during the day, he just finds it so hard to switch off from the world!

Hope this thread is still around when I try again!

 

[greenpear]

Thanks for the thread! I started this thing almost right away and even though my LO is only 3.5 months most nights she self-settles with me checking in only once or twice to stroke her head and shhhh her . Of course once in a while she has nights where she will cry more - then I pick her up, offer breast to make sure she's not hungry (sometimes she still is, and that sorts out problems. Sometimes not, then I put her back down) then she's out fast after that.

We have a great sleeper who's been STTN since 2 months of age. Of course all babies are different but this really worked for me and I'm glad there are other people here who support this. And she doens't seem stressed or insecure during the day or night but is quite happy. Just thought to add that

 

[Vickie]

Thread has been cleaned up. Please let's keep this thread for it's intended purposes which is to provide support to those who do want to/are using/have used these methods of sleep training.

 

[Irish Eyes]

I haven't used CC yet but how do you ladies make sure that there's no other reason for the crying? I always pick him up as soon as he cries, mainly because I'm worried he may have wind, sometimes he does burp. I also have a little worry that he may have filled his nappy, it's hard to smell through his sleepsuit. Then I worry that it might be his teeth hurting! How do you make sure they're not crying for those reasons? Would I just need to trust that there's nothing wrong with him?

 

[Saphira]

I haven't used CC yet but how do you ladies make sure that there's no other reason for the crying? I always pick him up as soon as he cries, mainly because I'm worried he may have wind, sometimes he does burp. I also have a little worry that he may have filled his nappy, it's hard to smell through his sleepsuit. Then I worry that it might be his teeth hurting! How do you make sure they're not crying for those reasons? Would I just need to trust that there's nothing wrong with him?

I know what you mean, I also worry sometimes she could be teething. It's really hard to be sure. When she has extra difficult nights we put teething gel on her gums since we're unsure but no teeth as of her first two at once at 7.5 months. She's very easily consoled when picked up, but I unfortunately can't carry her all night and she wouldn't sleep that way. :/ So, what's nearly always worked with her is offering a bottle, which she usually takes even if not much. She's never fallen asleep without a bottle right before. As for the rest, she's started solids for some months now so poo has been very noticeable. Plus, she has a regular schedule when she goes, always in the late morning/afternoon. Can't remember the last time she pooped in the night. She burps well on her own now but I always get at least one out of her after her bottle.
The approach taken really depends on the baby and what settles him or her best, so it's a lot of trial and error, so to say.
You naturally read their cries so of course a frantic one will be tended to immediately, versus the "I don't want to sleep" on/off complaining cry, which doesn't need to be rushed to. I know that makes the situation worse if we continually go in every few minutes when she's complaining because she gets more worked up so we judge the situation how it comes every night and take it from there.

 

[CeeDee]

At first I opposed this method mainly because I heard “Cry it out” and it sounded cruel, but now after doing more research I feel confident that it’s not so bad. I do think you should wait till your child doesn’t need a lot of night feedings. We currently bedshare and now that my daughter is more mobile and not waking as much at night, I want her to start sleeping in her crib. I’m not sure if CIO will work for us, crying makes her stay awake. I was thinking about PUPD or CC. She typically falls asleep on her own after a few times of cuddling. I’m hoping to read a lot of stories from others to get some encouragement.

Has anyone gone from bedsharing to CIO/CC/PUPD?

 

[jessicatunnel]

I have a question. When I feed Lilly before her naps or before bedtime she ALWAYS falls asleep without fail. When I put her down in the crib she wakes up. I shh her and pat her back and it works about 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time I pick her back up and settle her again before putting her back down. If I were to do CC, would I start when I put her down after her bottle? Or settle her and get her to sleep first and then start the CC crying when she wakes up later in the night?

Sorry if it's a daft question.

 

[The Alchemist]

At first I opposed this method mainly because I heard “Cry it out” and it sounded cruel, but now after doing more research I feel confident that it’s not so bad. I do think you should wait till your child doesn’t need a lot of night feedings. We currently bedshare and now that my daughter is more mobile and not waking as much at night, I want her to start sleeping in her crib. I’m not sure if CIO will work for us, crying makes her stay awake. I was thinking about PUPD or CC. She typically falls asleep on her own after a few times of cuddling. I’m hoping to read a lot of stories from others to get some encouragement.

Has anyone gone from bedsharing to CIO/CC/PUPD?

My lo wouldn't sleep in her crib for long. She had gotten used to sleeping with us in our bed at first as it made her feel comfortable between us (we have a king size mattress so there is more than enough leg room). Once I started putting her in her own bed (I didn't want her getting used to sleeping with us), that's when I started doing cc. But I had a nightly bedtime ritual as well (play, bath, sleep). It took her just a few days to get used to her own bed. But I think because we co-sleep (meaning sleeping in the same room, but not bed-sharing) made her feel comfortable and safe that we're still in the same room. The next thing I worry about is having her sleep in her own room once we move out of this place.

My suggestion is to start at the bare minimum with sleep-aid interventions, such as bedtime rituals, and then seek other alternatives if that alone doesn't work.

LOVING this thread, btw. Great to know that this is purely for support and information and not a place of debate. This will surely benefit those who really need to use this method.

 

[Randianne]

I have a question. When I feed Lilly before her naps or before bedtime she ALWAYS falls asleep without fail. When I put her down in the crib she wakes up. I shh her and pat her back and it works about 50% of the time and the other 50% of the time I pick her back up and settle her again before putting her back down. If I were to do CC, would I start when I put her down after her bottle? Or settle her and get her to sleep first and then start the CC crying when she wakes up later in the night?

Sorry if it's a daft question.

I'd start with after the bottle. Do your normal shush/pat, but then leave the room instead of picking her up. My LO tends to do this with her naps. She fusses when I put her down, and sometimes she'll settle with a little reassurance and sometimes she won't. I don't know about others, but so far I've found that if I can get her to follow a nap routine it's much easier for her to settle because she expects it.

 

[Shadowy Lady]

This is a great thread and thank you for making it. My LO is still very young but I hope this thread is made into sticky and available when I may need it in the future

 

[CeeDee]

At first I opposed this method mainly because I heard “Cry it out” and it sounded cruel, but now after doing more research I feel confident that it’s not so bad. I do think you should wait till your child doesn’t need a lot of night feedings. We currently bedshare and now that my daughter is more mobile and not waking as much at night, I want her to start sleeping in her crib. I’m not sure if CIO will work for us, crying makes her stay awake. I was thinking about PUPD or CC. She typically falls asleep on her own after a few times of cuddling. I’m hoping to read a lot of stories from others to get some encouragement.

Has anyone gone from bedsharing to CIO/CC/PUPD?

My lo wouldn't sleep in her crib for long. She had gotten used to sleeping with us in our bed at first as it made her feel comfortable between us (we have a king size mattress so there is more than enough leg room). Once I started putting her in her own bed (I didn't want her getting used to sleeping with us), that's when I started doing cc. But I had a nightly bedtime ritual as well (play, bath, sleep). It took her just a few days to get used to her own bed. But I think because we co-sleep (meaning sleeping in the same room, but not bed-sharing) made her feel comfortable and safe that we're still in the same room. The next thing I worry about is having her sleep in her own room once we move out of this place.

My suggestion is to start at the bare minimum with sleep-aid interventions, such as bedtime rituals, and then seek other alternatives if that alone doesn't work.

LOVING this thread, btw. Great to know that this is purely for support and information and not a place of debate. This will surely benefit those who really need to use this method.

Thank you! I was wondering where to start.

 

[ArmyWife1984]

At first I opposed this method mainly because I heard “Cry it out” and it sounded cruel, but now after doing more research I feel confident that it’s not so bad. I do think you should wait till your child doesn’t need a lot of night feedings. We currently bedshare and now that my daughter is more mobile and not waking as much at night, I want her to start sleeping in her crib. I’m not sure if CIO will work for us, crying makes her stay awake. I was thinking about PUPD or CC. She typically falls asleep on her own after a few times of cuddling. I’m hoping to read a lot of stories from others to get some encouragement.

Has anyone gone from bedsharing to CIO/CC/PUPD?

Hi CeeDee, I have gone from bedsharing to the crib with CIO and CC.

We bedshared until 4months. I asked my doctor about CC and he said we should wait until closer to 6months when he will no longer need a night feed.

Bedsharing was becoming too uncomfortable for all of us so at 4months instead of letting him cry in the crib, I gave him a bottle in the crib and he would drift off to sleep easily.
Then once 6months rolled around, I had to cut him off from the bottle in the crib. So I would give him one right before bed, and when i noticed him starting to drift off, I would burp him and sing a soft lullaby and place him in the crib.
1st night was rough, it was 1hr and 45min of crying, I did to CC the first hour and did CIO the last 45min because each time I went to soothe he would become more hysterical. I tried giving him a paci to help soothe him but he would just spit it out.
2nd night was only 40min and 3rd 10min, and now its a breeze.
Now i place him in the crib, and maybe go in once or twice to say shhhh and give him a paci which he loves now, and he is off to sleep quickly.
I think he likes the sucking motion to help sleep since he was BF until 4months.
You will find out what works for you and baby and make adjustments to fit your and baby's needs.