CC/CIO Support and Information Thread

[CeeDee]

lysh, I started putting her in the crib during the day to play while we were still bedsharing. I thought she would be traumatized as well, but she didn't give me much trouble. I was totally surprised. My intial plan was to CC, but if it got to be too much I was planning on sleeping on the floor with her in her room.

 

[hulahoop09]

I thought I had posted in this thread already but cant find it.

We have co slept pretty much from the start due to cmpi and silent reflux. Lo goes in her cot in the day for naps pretty well. Put her down awake and she will go to sleep. At night is a different story. We can put her down about 7pmish and sometimes she will go off to sleep anything from a 2-5 hours approx. Then she tends to kick off and so she will come down have a bottle sometimes goes back into her cot for another couple of hours or in with is depends really. We have had nights where she has slept in her cot from about 9pm til about 8am but we hadnt done anything different for this to happen. I have tried getting her into a routine which didnt help any to he honest and with me and hubby working can prove to be difficult. We tried controlled crying but if she was going me going in made her worse unless I picked her up. I had tried pupd and this just didnt work, she was kicking off even before I lay her down and it seemed to distress her. There have been times where I have keft her for 10 mins or so whinging and she has gone off but then theres other times it has just escalated and been a nightmare. I hate hearing her crying and not tending to her really upsets me but co sleeping is difficult due to space and I am struggling with pains due to fibromyalgia but because my body isnt resting properly. She has a cold and is teething atm and wont even nap in cot but when she is better what would you suggest? Has anyone successfully gone from bedsharing to lo in cot sleeping well?

I think one the the main issues is getting her to sleep for long periods also as due to bedsharing she hasnt had a night feed from v early on. Also she hates me rocking ger etc and I cant get her to sleep then put her down as sge snaps wide awake!
Xx

I'm only on my 9th night, but it has not been so bad. I went from bedsharing to crib in her own room. I expected her to go crazy and she hasn't. The first night, I nursed her till drowsy than put her in the crib and I left the room and hopped in the shower. By the time I got out of the shower she was sleep. The second night same thing. The third night no tears and straight to sleep.

We had a little of a setback last night. We had to stay at my parents house Monday night due to the storm and she woke up twice last night, once after an hour and then 3 hours after that. I think she was hungry (EBF) so I just fed her and put her back in her crib. So far so good.

thats fab!!! Well done lo!! Will she sleep the whole night? I just dont know how to get her to sleep the whole night and when she wakes she doesnt tend to be hungry as she hits the bottle away but she just wants to be up and out. I cant rock her to sleep, she wont settle unless I take her out. Little madam!! Lol.

xx

 

[CeeDee]

Yep, she sleeps the whole night. That's hard if she refuses to cuddle when she wakes up. Just try and keep it quiet and keep telling her its night time. My daughter used to do that alot when we were bedsharing and I just kept it dark and tried to cuddle her.

 

[hulahoop09]

Thanks! Its great when we are bed sharing as she will sleep for 8 hours and theres been times when i have got up and she has stayed in bed for another couple of hours!! Lol.

xx

 

[libbylou]

Last night was our best yet!
She now appears to regularly be going to sleep within 10 mins of being put down at night, with little to no fussing.
and then last night she slept for EIGHT HOURS The most she's ever done before was 6 hours, it only happened once, and it was 3.5 months ago!
I brought her to bed with us when she woke up at 4am after her 8 hour stretch since we're still part time co-sleeping, but it was so nice to have the bed to myself for a good chunk of the night!

Our first nap today was our most successful too - I put her down and she talked to herself for 15 mins and then went to sleep...she's never gone down for a nap in such a short time and she's never gone down without at least a bit of crying!

We're on day 11, and I am SO happy we started this. Even though it did involve some CC/camping out, in the end we have significantly less tears than we did before we started sleep training. We used to spend hours every day crying/fighting over naps and bedtime, it was awful

 

[bananaz]

Last night was our best yet!
She now appears to regularly be going to sleep within 10 mins of being put down at night, with little to no fussing.
and then last night she slept for EIGHT HOURS The most she's ever done before was 6 hours, it only happened once, and it was 3.5 months ago!
I brought her to bed with us when she woke up at 4am after her 8 hour stretch since we're still part time co-sleeping, but it was so nice to have the bed to myself for a good chunk of the night!

Our first nap today was our most successful too - I put her down and she talked to herself for 15 mins and then went to sleep...she's never gone down for a nap in such a short time and she's never gone down without at least a bit of crying!

We're on day 11, and I am SO happy we started this. Even though it did involve some CC/camping out, in the end we have significantly less tears than we did before we started sleep training. We used to spend hours every day crying/fighting over naps and bedtime, it was awful

Wow, that's amazing! I'm glad it's continuing to go so well for you. I bet you feel like a new woman after all that sleep

 

[lysh]

So an update... Elsie woke crying at 1am so I decided to feed her. She fell asleep immediately after that and then she slept until 6:30! There were a couple of squawks on the monitor at 4 and 5 and I was going to go feed her again but by the time I got out of bed she had already resettled herself, which is pretty amazing for her. Most nights those kinds of yells would turn into full-blown crying within a couple of minutes. So, fingers crossed that this trend continues!

Yay! So glad things are improving!

 

[bananaz]

Yay! So glad things are improving!

Me too! How are you and your LO doing these days? Less fussy I hope?

 

[HopingFor2v1]

Last night was our best yet!
She now appears to regularly be going to sleep within 10 mins of being put down at night, with little to no fussing.
and then last night she slept for EIGHT HOURS The most she's ever done before was 6 hours, it only happened once, and it was 3.5 months ago!
I brought her to bed with us when she woke up at 4am after her 8 hour stretch since we're still part time co-sleeping, but it was so nice to have the bed to myself for a good chunk of the night!

Our first nap today was our most successful too - I put her down and she talked to herself for 15 mins and then went to sleep...she's never gone down for a nap in such a short time and she's never gone down without at least a bit of crying!

We're on day 11, and I am SO happy we started this. Even though it did involve some CC/camping out, in the end we have significantly less tears than we did before we started sleep training. We used to spend hours every day crying/fighting over naps and bedtime, it was awful

Congrats LibbyLou! That is fantastic! Good work LO I hope she keeps it up, because you deserve some uninterupted sleep!

 

[Noelle610]

Last night was our best yet!
She now appears to regularly be going to sleep within 10 mins of being put down at night, with little to no fussing.
and then last night she slept for EIGHT HOURS The most she's ever done before was 6 hours, it only happened once, and it was 3.5 months ago!
I brought her to bed with us when she woke up at 4am after her 8 hour stretch since we're still part time co-sleeping, but it was so nice to have the bed to myself for a good chunk of the night!

Our first nap today was our most successful too - I put her down and she talked to herself for 15 mins and then went to sleep...she's never gone down for a nap in such a short time and she's never gone down without at least a bit of crying!

We're on day 11, and I am SO happy we started this. Even though it did involve some CC/camping out, in the end we have significantly less tears than we did before we started sleep training. We used to spend hours every day crying/fighting over naps and bedtime, it was awful

Congrats LibbyLou! That is fantastic! Good work LO I hope she keeps it up, because you deserve some uninterupted sleep!

Ditto, so happy for you!!!

 

[megangrohl]

So I am starting to get Lily to nap without her swaddle me wrap as she has outgrown it being 6 months now and 20 lbs and very tall. She also hates it. So far for naps she only sleeps 25 minutes. She still has the startle reflex, not as bad as when she was a NB but I was wondering when they outgrow this?

Also, CC I was curious about - that is when you let them cry and go in every 10 minutes or so just so they know that you're there?

 

[bananaz]

So I am starting to get Lily to nap without her swaddle me wrap as she has outgrown it being 6 months now and 20 lbs and very tall. She also hates it. So far for naps she only sleeps 25 minutes. She still has the startle reflex, not as bad as when she was a NB but I was wondering when they outgrow this?

Also, CC I was curious about - that is when you let them cry and go in every 10 minutes or so just so they know that you're there?

In most babies the startle reflex extinguishes by around 6 months so it should be gone soon!

Yes, CC is where you let them cry but go in at increasing timed intervals to reassure them for a couple of minutes, then leave so they can fall asleep on their own.

 

[Noelle610]

We started doing some sleep training yesterday. Charlotte was continuing to flip onto her belly and waking constantly through the night and we were both becoming very sleep deprived. On Tuesday night, I must have flipped her 16 times, only to have her roll over again and start the process over! She would act angry when I flipped her too, like she really just wanted to sleep and I was disturbing her. I think she wants to sleep on her stomach, but is just having trouble adjusting to it. DH and I decided to let her cry for intervals and then comfort her while she was still on her tummy instead of flipping. We also decided to feed her at night if it had been a minimum of 6 hours (first stretch), then every 3 hours (following) per the recommendation of a lactation consultant I'd worked with in the past. Lately it's been hard to tell if she's actually hungry, but with a big feed before bed I felt comfortable with this schedule.

Last night was interesting. She only cried (really fussed) for a total of 13 minutes at bedtime. She then woke at 10pm and cried for 5 minutes and went back to sleep. We didn't even have an opportunity to sooth, but checked on her after she was quiet and she was on her tummy sleeping peacefully. She then woke around 1am and I fed her. She rolled onto her tummy after the feeding, but didn't fuss at all. She then slept through the rest of the night until 6:15am, with some minor fussing after 5:30am that I honestly would have ignored before starting this plan. It's more restless whining and I've mistaken it for an awakening in the past and only made her mad.

One thing that helped was turning off our monitor. I left our door open and our bedroom is right accross the hall from hers. I was nervous to do this, but I am so keyed into my baby that I always know when she needs me. In the past I've found I wake just before she does, like I KNOW when she's getting up. But without the monitor on, I didn't hear small noises that only served to wake both of us.

I guess I would call the night a success. There was only 18 minutes of crying total, which is quite frankly, much, much less crying than we experienced when I was flipping her over a million times. In my gut I truly felt I was doing the right thing.

Unfortunately, I had a VERY hard time sleeping and maybe got 2 hours. I kept waiting for he to wake up. I'm also so sleep deprived after the past few nights that it's almost hard for me to fall asleep, as if I'm running on adreneline. Has anyone else had this issue? I feel like I walking zombie today and my fingers are all tingly! Tonight DH is going to care for Charlotte and I'm going to take something safe with breastfeeding, like Tylenol PM, so I can get some rest.

 

[bananaz]

Day 2 of modified CC and it was better in some ways and worse in others.

It looked something like this:

• 8:00pm - Bedtime
• 10:40pm - Waking #1, crying with checks and shushing for ~15 minutes
• 1:30am - Waking #2, fed her and straight back to sleep
• 3:30am - Waking #3, fussing off and on with one check for ~15 minutes
• 5:00am - Waking #4, actually crying and sounding hungry so I fed her again
• 7:20am - Up for the day

So it took less time to get her down after her first waking, but she had two more crying sessions than the night before and I ended up feeding her twice instead of once. I do worry that I'm being inconsistent by continuing to feed her at night but I think she needs it and if she sounds hungry I'm not going to deny her food. She is dealing with so many new things right now (being in the crib, being unswaddled, etc) that trying to reduce her night feedings would just be too much I think. Hopefully we will still be able to make progress.

 

[Noelle610]

I do worry that I'm being inconsistent by continuing to feed her at night but I think she needs it and if she sounds hungry I'm not going to deny her food.

I worry about this too. I've spoken with many moms and some have told me I should just not feed and that she'll make up for it during the day, but I guess I'm not ready for that yet. I know consistency is key, so does feeding negate it all? I don't think it does, personally, but I guess we shall see.

 

[bananaz]

We also decided to feed her at night if it had been a minimum of 6 hours (first stretch), then every 3 hours (following) per the recommendation of a lactation consultant I'd worked with in the past.

That's pretty much exactly what I did last night, so it's reassuring that a professional actually recommended it to you. I think I'm going to stick with those guidelines as well.

It's great that you are already having success! Have you been able to put her down awake before or is that a new thing?

 

[Noelle610]

We also decided to feed her at night if it had been a minimum of 6 hours (first stretch), then every 3 hours (following) per the recommendation of a lactation consultant I'd worked with in the past.

That's pretty much exactly what I did last night, so it's reassuring that a professional actually recommended it to you. I think I'm going to stick with those guidelines as well.

It's great that you are already having success! Have you been able to put her down awake before or is that a new thing?

It's been hit or miss putting her down awake, but she's been fighting it lately! Night wakings are honestly our biggest issue.

 

[I-want-1-2]

We're only on day 3, but so far have seen a HUGE improvement in terms of going down for naps and at bedtime. Every time used to be a battle, with tears and Alannah arching her back when I tried to put her down, but since starting CC she cries for maybe 2-3 minutes before settling herself to sleep without me in the room.

However, the nighttime wakings are worse than ever Last night she cried on and off for 1hr 20 mins after waking at 1.20am. She used to settle after a few minutes, but last night looked like this:

Bed @ 19:50, asleep in 4 mins;
#1 Cry @ 20:38, asleep after 3 mins;
#2 Cry @ 22:30, settles after a couple of visits from me (stroking her face) asleep by 22:45;
#3 Cry @ 23:40, asleep in 3 mins;
#4 Cry @ 00:23, picked her up after the first 2 mins because she was getting hysterical, asleep after 8 mins;
#5 Cry @ 01:20, mammoth session that included her crying, me crying (in my room), her shouting, nappy change (only wet), bottle (2.10am). Finally asleep at 02:40.
#6 Cry @ 03:50, cuddle and gave teething powder just in case.
#7 Cry @ 04:11, settled after 3 mins;
#8 Cry @ 05:00, settled after 5 mins;
#9 Cry @ 07:00, first bottle of the day.

Mummy is exhausted! Had a falling out with DH, who picked her up and brought her into bed with us at 3am because I was upset - put her back down, and he apologised for doing the wrong thing. He thought we needed to stop and start again tonight. I just feel like although this has worked for bedtime and naps, she's not getting the message in the night. Has anyone else gone through this and it's got better? I don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong I know last night was only night 2, but I don't want to get this completely wrong.

DH had some flowers delivered to me at home this afternoon, with a card saying he appreciates everything I do . He's not the most romantic or gesture-y person, so this really cheered my day up

Sorry for rambling!! Just looking for a bit of reassurance that we're not on the completely wrong track.

 

[Noelle610]

We're only on day 3, but so far have seen a HUGE improvement in terms of going down for naps and at bedtime. Every time used to be a battle, with tears and Alannah arching her back when I tried to put her down, but since starting CC she cries for maybe 2-3 minutes before settling herself to sleep without me in the room.

However, the nighttime wakings are worse than ever Last night she cried on and off for 1hr 20 mins after waking at 1.20am. She used to settle after a few minutes, but last night looked like this:

Bed @ 19:50, asleep in 4 mins;
#1 Cry @ 20:38, asleep after 3 mins;
#2 Cry @ 22:30, settles after a couple of visits from me (stroking her face) asleep by 22:45;
#3 Cry @ 23:40, asleep in 3 mins;
#4 Cry @ 00:23, picked her up after the first 2 mins because she was getting hysterical, asleep after 8 mins;
#5 Cry @ 01:20, mammoth session that included her crying, me crying (in my room), her shouting, nappy change (only wet), bottle (2.10am). Finally asleep at 02:40.
#6 Cry @ 03:50, cuddle and gave teething powder just in case.
#7 Cry @ 04:11, settled after 3 mins;
#8 Cry @ 05:00, settled after 5 mins;
#9 Cry @ 07:00, first bottle of the day.

Mummy is exhausted! Had a falling out with DH, who picked her up and brought her into bed with us at 3am because I was upset - put her back down, and he apologised for doing the wrong thing. He thought we needed to stop and start again tonight. I just feel like although this has worked for bedtime and naps, she's not getting the message in the night. Has anyone else gone through this and it's got better? I don't know if I'm doing it right or wrong I know last night was only night 2, but I don't want to get this completely wrong.

DH had some flowers delivered to me at home this afternoon, with a card saying he appreciates everything I do . He's not the most romantic or gesture-y person, so this really cheered my day up

Sorry for rambling!! Just looking for a bit of reassurance that we're not on the completely wrong track.

That's so sweet of your DH. Having a supportive partner makes all of the difference.

Has your LO always woken this often at night, or is it a new development? Also, when she woke at 1am, it sounds to me like she was hungry and that's why she wouldn't go down quickly. Are you planning on night weaning while sleep training?

 

[I-want-1-2]

I wasn't going to, and I don't mind if she wakes for a feed, it's just all the messing about in between. I didn't feed her at 1am because I thought she couldn't possibly be hungry - she had some pureed carrot & baby rice at 5pm, and 8oz bottle at 6pm (we were amazed she took it all), then had a further 4oz when I put her down at quarter to 8 - she doesn't usually drink this much, but was looking for her bottle before bed so I gave her a small one. Maybe that was it? If she hadn't had that last feed, I would've offered a bottle at 1am.

She's always woken up a few times (4 or 5), looking for a missing dummy usually - she whinges but once the dummy is in she'll go off again. She doesn't usually wake up and cry for minutes at a time like she did last night. And there is usually a wake-up around 3am looking for a feed.