Chinese Accupuncture

[Irish_eyes]

Oh forgot to mention though, despite the prolactin we are still categorised as unexplained as they don't see the prolactin a problem when taking the meds.

 

[Briss]

Irish_eyes, I do not know that much about prolactin but the first thing that immediately comes to mind is brain tumours so it's great that this was ruled out straight away. Do you have to repeat CT scans every year?

My prolactin is 194 mlU/L (ref 102-496). is it OK? no one raised any concerns.

You have been through so much, in a way it's good that you were naïve and did not appreciate the danger of your situation, it spared you some stress. Have you been checked for thyroid disease, polycystic ovary syndrome and shingles? these seem to be associated with high prolactin levels. I can understand why they treat you as unexplained cos if your prolactin levels can be managed with Bromocriptine and you have regular periods then theoretically you should be able to get pregnant. Maybe it's all down to shorter LP? have been taking progesterone in TWW?

re B100s, it's so surprising that some B vitamin can help with pre AF spotting? I know it must be so if it worked for us as well as many other ladies, I am just not sure how to explain it. I cant possibly have B vitamin deficiency having been taking tonnes of vitamins, including B, for years now. so what is it? I stopped Vit B now cos I started getting skin rush around my mouth and I think it was related to Vit B cos it disappeared a week after I stopped it. I also read that B 100 is not recommended for long term (maybe that's why) so take a break after 2-3 months.

I will look into Reiki, although I am slightly afraid of mediums and psychics, it's about the power of what they say, even if you do not believe it somehow their words still stay with you and you can unintentionally make them true. I am uneasy with that.

 

[Jazzbird]

Reiki is just healing through hands using a supposed life force. It is not related to psychic or medium practices

 

[Briss]

Jazzbird, thanks. have you tried it?

 

[alison29]

I have wanted to try reiki too. I actually have a practitioners card right on my work desk under my monitor. My hair stylist said it helped her get pregnant. Who knows though I think it would be neat.

 

[alison29]

Maybe I 'll try it in september once summer is over (i have more expenses in summer)

 

[kits]

Oooo.. Reiki, that sounds good. Never tried it though.

Briss, I'm not sure what to say. I wish I could hug everything away for you. Just wave a happy wand and boom, pretty preggie bump.

I'm still here for ya & all the other ladies, always will be. Just feel a bit guilty of my current status so am keeping quiet.

Irish, how long have you been trying?

Blythe & Briss, I hope your hubbies are OK.


Loads of

 

[kits]

By the way, I've had a couple of readings. I used to be scared of them but now I see them as very comforting & positive experiences.

My first experience (April 2004ish?)wasn't that great to be honest. I was told both me & my then boyfriend (now he's my ex husband) would find new beginnings. I can't remember anything else she said it all became a blur after she said that as I didn't want to believe it. Ahhh, the mistakes we make... If only I had listened!

My second experience (Jan 2011) was a bit odd, but she was a spiritualist & a close so maybe she cheated a bit, he he. But I found her so comforting because she assured me I wasn't alone. I have always felt alone living in the UK so that was the best thing she could've said.

My 3rd experience (march 2014) was the best. Complete stranger with a very good reputation. He told me loads about my present, past & future. It was actually a tarrot reading & he just kept blubbering stuff. The main things he told me was that I was going to change careers to do something with loads of babies, he thought I was a midwife or a teacher because he said he saw me surrounded by so many kids they couldn't possibly all be mine. Then he said I was going to have an announcement in June (I hoped everyday in June that the announcement was a bfp!), he did say I was going to have a little boy & a girl. Also said my mom will be fine (she had cancer a year ago). By the way he didn't really ask questions, as I'd turn a tarot over he'd just talk.

Point is, Yea a lot of what they doesn't necessarily work out or much less make any sense but I it gave me hope. And that alone is sometimes all you need. All that is said can just be words, but the hope is so comforting. You do keep few bits in the back of my mind, but nothing that'll cause paranoia, depression. At the end of the day it's just someone else's opinion.

That same guy told a friend some pretty unfortunate things that did occur but that's just life...

 

[Jazzbird]

Yes I've had reiki - my old acu who is a gynaecologist uses it after she puts the needles in. She swears by it - has worked on her brother in law when he was in a coma in hospital. I think she thinks it works with the same Qi as in acupuncture but in a less direct way. It's very relaxing.

I really don't know what I think to it. You can do level 1 training in a day for £70. This means you can treat friends and family.

 

[Irish_eyes]

Briss - no I don't need to do the scan again. I think they were certain that there was no tumour so I just go for a check up every year. They just tests like me covering one eye then they put their hand in the air then they start to bring their arm down moving their fingers and I have to tell them as soon as I see it (hope that made sense). Also have to read some small text covering one eye and then they send me in to do another blood test. That's it really.

They measure my prolactin in a different unit to yours, mine is pmol/L and I just read somewhere that it should be under 700 pmol/L for it to be ok but I think it was a bit lower than that according to my consultant. I will have to check the range. I take it ref 102-496 is the ok range in miU/L so I think you don't have anything to worry about with your prolactin because if you did your fertility doctors would pick up on that straight away. Prolactin is apart of your CD3 test. I think to convert miU/L you multiply it by 2.043 to get pmol/L.

My LP has been 13 days so they haven't been that bad but just have notice since temping again they have been shorter. The only time I took progesterone is during the TWW in my IVF cycle. Do you have any recommendations were I can get some? Anything is worth try.

As Jazzbird says Reiki is not related to mediums etc. My practitioner did highlight that she doesn't claim to be and it's also your option if you want to hear whatever she has to say afterwards. You can just go for pure relaxation purposes only which I do recommend. I have been to a medium twice (same one) in the last two years. I always said I would love to go to one but didn't feel it was right until 2 years ago and it was because my daddy passed away 5 years previous to the first reading. It does give me comfort even if it isn't true but this medium as told me so much that she could not have known.

With Reiki for example she told me there is definitely no reason why I can not have a baby. She has told me things like my hips being sore (I am a runner) and she has even been able to tell me that I have my AF without me telling her. She would also tell me I would need to eat more celery or drink hot lemon water etc.

When I was going through IVF, one of my colleagues in work was going through FET the same time. We were days apart with our ETs and test dates. It turned out it failed for both of us but it was good to have that support but also nerve wrecking at the thought of one one if us getting our BFP. This girl had already had a wee boy through IVF and she went to the same Reiki practitioner. After her FET her AF was being weird and coming every two weeks. The RP told her she was pregnant and even her husband got so annoyed with the RP for telling her this as if she tested and it was negative that would have set her off. So she wouldn't test but it was until another colleague and I were saying our AF arrived (we all seemed to get it together) that made her realise hers still wasn't there. So she finally tested and got a natural BFP. She was so shocked because she said she went off on a knicker spending spree, determined to get pregnant naturally that next cycle. She now has another happy little 1 year old boy. I think the Reiki changes her mindset but not sure if it did help her.

Kits - I have been trying for over 5 and a half years but in all fairness there has been a lot if months in that time were we haven't tried at all.

 

[somedayisnow]

Hi everyone. I hope the universe is treating you all kindly.

Had my second acu session today and it was a bit of a workout. Most of the needles I could hardly feel as they went in but the ones over my right ovary OUCH. I knew he was going to concentrate on my right ovary/fallopian tube because I had an HSG test on Tuesday and although both tubes are open, the right one was slow to let the dye out. Once the needles were in, the pain went away but then the doctor came in with 10 minutes left and adjusted the needles. OUCH again.

This time he asked me about temping and was concerned that I haven't ovulated yet. Today is CD12 and my cycle is 25 days long. Hopefully, ovulation is just delayed because of the HSG and not because I don't ovulate at all. This is my first cycle temping and using opks. I've always assumed that I ovulate but I don't know that for sure.

And finally we talked herbs. He wants me to start taking them beginning CD3. What these herbs will be I have no idea but I guess I'll find out in a couple of weeks.

A friend of mine recommended reflexology. She raves about how relaxed she feels after a session and thinks it would help keep my stress levels down.

Babydust to you all.

 

[kits]

Well, here it starts again.. Had my first bit of brown spotting when I wiped this morning (I also had a ton of cm)

Rang my epu but they said not to come in since I'm already booked in for a Scan on Friday.

Really trying to stay positive, I know there's a good chance it's nothing but spotting has always been bad news for me. Last night I had a bit of 'oh that's not good' pain but it was only a little bit & it went away when I rubbed it.

Won't go in to work, no way I'd keep it together, at home i can cope.

Here's to hoping it's nothing & that it goes away quick sticks.


All the best ladies

 

[Briss]

kits, I am so sorry about spotting. you must be so nervous. I just hope it's nothing, so many women spot throughout their pregnancies, some even continue having periods and yet deliver healthy babies. I wonder if there is a specific acu points to help keep the baby in place in these situations? My first acu doc said she helped women with spotting during the first trimester when western doctors said there is nothing they could do, what will be will be, she did acu and gave herbs and some women managed to get through this with their pregnancies saved

somedayisnow, I also found the point over my right ovary is very painful but it depends on the practitioner. my current one does not pain me at all – no idea if this is good or not but I like it better. My previous doc also used electro acu on my tummy points and have to say I was struggling with pain for 30 min every time even when the current was on the lowest possible level.

When I have a 25 day cycle usually ovulate on day 11 but my problem is a shorter follicular phase. maybe you will have a longer cycle this time? keep temping it will give you a good idea about your cycle. the main thing is to take your temp at the same time every morning, otherwise it will appear erratic.

I absolutely love reflexology! if it's mild it's sop relaxing but I like it strong even painful because after the procedure I feel like my feet were reborn. I am still not sure if doing reflexology in TWW is a good idea because it seem to have a bit of cramping every time after the procedure (again, no idea if that's related).

Irish_eyes, I did not know eye sight is related to prolactin? I cannot see any small text even with glasses and both eyes opened! 13 day LP is very healthy. I am actually not sure where you can buy progesterone I think ladies were posting some links where you can buy it on line but I did not save it. I also have some left from my IVF cycle but I did not use it in natural TTC. Have you checked your 7-10 DPO progesterone levels? are they high enough?

Blythe, I hope you are OK

 

[somedayisnow]

kits, I have all my body parts crossed for you. Hopefully the spotting amounts to nothing.

Briss, the only other thing I can think of is that I ovulated super early but that doesn't sound right, either. The only major spike in temperature happened on CD7. To be honest, I don't trust my temping. This is my first month doing so and except for the first two days (CD1 and CD2) I've woken up at the same time each morning when the alarm goes off. That said, for most of those days I've also woken up at odd times during the night and had to will myself not to move until the alarm goes off. Hopefully I'll have this temping thing sorted by my next cycle.
How are you doing today?

 

[kits]

Thanks ladies, really appreciate it. That whole 'you're used to the losses, this is just another one' is kicking in.. But I promise I'm trying to stay positive.

Someday, I know what you mean about the temping. I tried to always within the same time frame but still kept getting mountains. In the end I was convinced this wasn't my cycle & we bd randomly because my temps had me baffled. I think my thermometer was just crap tbh. I've kept my ovulation chart just because it still baffles me.

Sorry to hear that your ACU hurt. I've only had it a few times in my abdomen but I think I'm too chubby for it to hurt. It hurts on other parts like feet, legs, shoulder & head. I'm not sure how else to tell if you ovulate other than by temping (even though I don't fully trust it) or by doctor tests. To be honest only until recent months did the notion even occur to me. Sorry hun, I'm sure you're pretty worried now.

Briss, how are you doing? I'm sorry you were struggling so much with your early o, I do pray your time comes soon.

Hope Blythe & Allison are doing well.

My ACU said she's focusing on settling the baby & reducing my nausea stress but I can't honestly say it's helping. Even feel like canceling my next ACU.

Sorry ladies.

 

[somedayisnow]

kits, it's interesting that your Acu promotes treatment in early pregnancy. Mine said he doesn't do acupuncture during the first trimester because it can bring down a person's temperature and that's not good for the fetus. Or at least that's what I think he said.

I'm not saying that my Acu is right or wrong. TCM is so new to me that I don't know what to believe. Maybe someone here with more knowledge can shed light on the ins and outs of acupuncture while pregnant.

I'm not really a religious person but I am sending up a prayer to the gods, spirits, mother nature and everything good for your babydust to keep sticking.

 

[Blythe]

Thinking of you all ladies and reading your posts. I will post again when I have sorted my head out.....in a horrid hole which I'm struggling to get out of.

Kits. I hope the spotting stops soon. Always such a worry but so common in early pregnancy. Thinking of you x

 

[kits]

Hang in there Blythe, sending lots of love

 

[kits]

I've read good things about ACU in pregnancy including first trimester but I can be pretty impulsive so I wouldn't be surprised if I do quit it especially since the thought has crossed my mind.

Thanks ladies, appreciate the comforting words genuinely made me feel a bit better.

 

[Irish_eyes]

Kits, keeping my fingers crossed for you and hope that the spotting is pregnancy related.

Briss, they do that test for brain function rather than testing the eyes. Yes I did have the progesterone test done with was a few years ago. My doctor was happy with the result. Just checked and it was 38.7. Not sure what that was measured in but that was a CD21 test. What's the test you get CD7-10? I did get a CD3 test done which is FSH etc. Is that the one?

Blythe just wanted to let you know I am thinking of you x