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had my "second opinion appointment" with a senior consultant and it seems like things are going in the right direction. he agreed with UCLH that not doing a lap was the right way to go about it, and there is every hope that things will heal in about 6-8 weeks. seems like this could have happened to anyone, I was just unlucky. even then, the risks are still there until the blood is fully absorbed so i should be careful and take things easy. We should not TTC this month which is disappointing.

I went back to RMU today for a follow up and finally saw a consultant (not the usual junior doctors). apparently I was not supposed to go back to work... I need rest to ensure things do not get worse so i am back on sick leave for another week. they wanted to discharge me but I asked for another follow up appointment because I really want to make sure blood is completely gone and ovaries work normally. but so far so good, the blood is reducing, the ovaries have gone back to normal size but they still do not appear normal yet, there are cysts with blood but these should be resolved in a month or so. the pain is still there and surpassingly my right shoulder pain is also related to the incident. I feel a bit more optimistic but I guess I need to wait and see how things are going next couple of cycles.
 
Hi Ladies, still following & keeping all of you in my prayers always.

Briss I hope your recovery goes as well as possible & that these 6-8 weeks can be as peaceful and smooth as possible. There must be something that connects our right shoulder to our uterus as I know right shoulder pain is a symptom of an ectopic pregnancy.

I'm glad you got your second opinion and they believe you're being given the correct treatment. That must be so reassuring during such an anxious time.

Don't let your MIL get you down, they can be notorious for envy & selfishness. The effort and passion you have for a family is more than most in laws could fathom. You're giving it your all, no need to justify to anyone. Just keep looking after yourself & by all means indulge!

Things seem to be going on schedule but I never really got taken off the high risk radar & I've been getting various tests done throughout all this time. On one of my recent results it turns out that I'm a weak positive for antiphospholipids which could explain my previous miscarriages. Still waiting for another result on the lupus coagulant. This just means that I am susceptible to blood clotting & if untreated could cause harm to baby & myself.

The upside is that they have put me on treatment, which happens to be aspirin and a daily injection until labor which should prevent all complications.

Apart from that everything seems well.

Best of luck ladies.

:hug:
 
Briss - i am so pleased to read that you are on the road to recovery. I hope very much that you will be given the all clear to TTC next month. I hope whilst you have been at home you have not been working at home....you really need a break from work I'm sure.

i have been very busy at work and the week has flown by. Im still in some kind of numb limbo land not sure what to do...have you any plans formulating about next steps?

I feel the colder nights and darker mornings coming along and think about another year coming to a close. I have to remind myself that people do in fact get pregnant after many years of trying....and it could just happen for me. I am feeling quite ghastly this month so i have been knocking back the cough medicine...you never know!!!!

Glad that downtown is back and hoping that Lady Edith can get her baby back....also hoping her dashing boyfriend that disappeared in Germany will make a return!
 
Hi Kits,
I had no idea you were having problems. What caused them to test you for the antiphospholiids thinger? Super glad you have your injection. I bet that hurts though.

Blythe you are right it does happen to people after many years of trying. That is a great and very positive point. I run into those people people alot in fact one this morning. A couple of years ago she said she went on pill after trying for number two for a year and nothing was happening so she thought screw it I am happy life is easy. Her dh talked her into one more round of trying so she got knocked up first month of the pill has a four month old right now. Her daughter the old one is 7, quite a nice age gap she says.
 
Blythe, I was so looking forward to downton abbey but they all moved on, all have children one way or another and i am still here 34 episodes later... I resent them all, the younger ones, can't help it :(

my pain got worse yesterday, not sure maybe because I stopped antibiotics. DH had to go away so am on my own and feel rather scared. at times the pain just gets really bad, I can't walk properly again as every step is painful. it might be because of approaching ovulation? not sure but if it won't get better by Monday will have to call the clinic and arrange for an emergency scan.

I still have to work from home because we are super busy :( was supposed to go to Spain on a business trip but could not fly in my state so had to send somebody else and pick up their workload. I got really lovely flowers from my colleagues though to cheer me up, nice!

Speaking of next step, I still have not approach the clinic in CR. Being in plain makes it hard to even imagine going through enough EC. the doc said I actually lost about a litre of blood judging by my blood count before and after EC - so shocking! but I know I must take that risk because there is no other choice.

I am thinking of my innocent TTC months (years) with nostalgia actually, this is such hard core with blood, severe pain, real damage to my organs that whether to take any particular vitamin seems such nonsense now. I do not take anything except for iron.

On a positive side, despite the pain my sex drive is back!
 
Baby 'n Bump team - just in case you ever read these messages - please sort out your onsite advertising. I have had to click away from 4 large screen sized aptimil babies and I'm getting sick of it!!!! - Just in case you had not noticed TTC isn't always exciting and fun!!!!!!

Kits - sorry to read you have been experiencing some issues with your pregnancy. It sounds like you are in very safe hands and are being carefully monitored though. I hope the pregnancy continues with no further complications and you are able to relax a bit and enjoy this special time :flower:

Alison - You mentioned your friend and her DH persuading her to try another round....was that a round of IVF? People always go on about age gaps and some being less ideal than others....i am much closer with my brother who is 16 years younger than me than the other who is 2 years younger than me. All i can remember about growing up with a sibling so close in age is fighting....all of the time!!!

Briss - yes you are right re DA...i had not really noticed as they only wheel the kids out occasionally....

yes please do get the pain checked out if it gets worse.....the fact you have stopped the AB should not really effect that....i thought that was to ward off infection rather than mute any pain.

Your increased sex drive is certainly a good sign that your hormones are doing what they are meant to be doing at this point in your cycle. Im so glad i did not take clomid this cycle as i am monitoring everything this cycle and i really notice that i have so much more ewcm when that stuff is not in my system. Its just bullshit that we have these normal cycles with all the fertile signs occurring but its just not working :( not yet anyhow.

a litre of blood is quite shocking....you have been through so much recently. Once the pain goes it will be much easier to tackle whatever is ahead.
 
that onsite advertising is a nightmare!!! I was about to give up trying to load this page after 4th attempt! cos I can't stand this advert with this annoying child and it takes up the entire page so you cannot see the content of this site and it crops up on every page, and there is no escape - this super annoying, particularly on a saturday morning!
 
I think the pain may got worse because the remaining blood is thickening, it was a sort of jello on Wednesday so it might be harder now and is pressing on my bowels causing pain?? I fond it hard to imagine how it all going to disappear but I suppose they know better, I've heard it from 3 difference consultants - all 3 said it will disappear without a trace, most likely. but in the meantime if I get temp above 38 I should rush to A&E for intro-vein antibiotics but again the risk of infection is very low now. I am checking my blood pressure, pulse and temp daily just in case.

my CBFM is still on low which is unusual, maybe it's outrun its useful life? It's been 3 years.

it's so funny how a lot of gyno practitioners cannot read a scan properly! I've been seen by so many in the last few weeks and only a few could really tell me what's going on with my ovaries, most cannot distinguish between a follicle, a cyst and a yellow body!! they can only see it during an IVF cycle when they watch you regularly and can see the changes. the private doc referred me for a scan but he was very particular about who I need to see as he said this guy can really tell all the differences on the scan and if it's a cyst what kind of cyst etc. amazing, I would have thought they all should be able to do that, apparently not.

my most recent discovery is that brown blood/spotting is not necessarily old blood as we thought. also TCM seems to think period should be red and brown means uterus does not evacuate the remaining blood properly. Now, I had this painful dillapam inserted into my cervix (btw, total waste as we never got to ET stage) on CD 3 and the AF was red, not a drop of brown, it ended with red and the same thing this AF. so my conclusion is that brown is just the remaining blood that takes a while to get through the cervix because it's narrow. once they dilated my cervix a little bit it helped blood go through quicker so it stayed red. nothing to do with my uterus. the effect of dilapam wears off in a few months though. interestingly this cycle I got pink spotting! never had it in my life and always wondered what it looks like, well now I know.
 
Blythe the lady just did it natural. It does happen. She can't be that young either hard to tell though at skin clinic. I wish o could afford filler for my upper lip (;
 
Hi briss ! Isee your online. Interesting about spotting I get dark color at beginning and end of cycle. I don't really buy TTC vitaminns either. So sorry about your pain this has gone on far to long.
 
alison, I usually start and finish with brown and red in the middle but after dilapam it's all red from start to finish so i guess it's all about the cervix.

I think vitamins are good, it's just compare to the damage of EC and considerable blood loss it all seems insignificant somehow. although the doc told me that my diet is very important for recovery. unfortunately it's still daily coffee + pastry (or 2... or 3)
 
Hello ladies can I ask a question? I started acu before my last ivf cycle. We were unsuccessful but think acu helped me relax. Took a break afterwards but havw niw gone back. Came home with a bag of stuff... looked like twigs and leaves..... after boiling this I know have lots of tea to last a week... have had 2 cups so far.... not sure if I can stick this out for 2 months.... can you let me know what form your herbs came in. Xxxx
 
nobump, i was taking raw herbs for a while, was boiling them once a day so i had enough to take morning/evening. I boiled just enough for two cups and did not leave them for more than a day. raw herbs were supposed to be the most potent form of herbs but so time-consuming to make. I was also taking powered herbs which you just dissolve in hot water and take twice a day - so much easier. they are also supposed to be quite potent.

I've been taking herbs for 4-5 months before this last IVF and regular acu (every two weeks) this was specifically designed to reduce my FSH levels but it did not work, my FSh went up even higher and my IVF was a disaster as you know, my ovaries did not respond well to stims so herbs did not really help with FSH/ovarian function. eggs were of poor quality but I think it was to do with stimulation process.
 
Hi nobump,
I got bags of herbs that looked like sticks and other unidentifiable forest looking items. I did acupuncture 2x a week for 3 months until my bfp - my tcm doc told me in advance not to try for the first 3 months, I obliged but tried on the third & glad I did :)
The herbs are the most disgusting thing, but it's worth it!.. mine I was supposed to boil down to1 cup then reuse the herbs for afternoon dose, boiled again to 1cup. I found that drinking it with a straw was easier so the taste doesn't touch your tongue lol.
Good luck!!
 
nobump, my herbs ranged from a fine powder to a grainy/sandy concoction that ends up looking like dirty muddy water. They all taste horrible but some more-so than others. The best thing for me is to mix the herbs with as little water as possible and then chug them.
 
As I work FT they gave me all the herbs in one bag to boil all
Together keeping it in fridge and microwaving. Think if I get more will split up more. They said not to try this month. Awaiting AF next week so should be good to try next O.

The taste I can just about handle just it's the smell. Might try a straw though.

Briss not sure if we will go down ivf route again. Just want to get body back to normal.

Mandi21a thats fab it worked for you will try to read back more.

Xxxx
 
Sameday think I may have added to much water second boil. First I boiled the water to long... if I continue next week hopefully get easier. Agree looks like muddy water x
 
Sameday think I may have added to much water second boil. First I boiled the water to long... if I continue next week hopefully get easier. Agree looks like muddy water x
 
no bump - do be sure to report back on any changes. I have not taken herbs since my IVF in June/July but the ones i have taken have nearly always been in powdered form. the ones you have are the most potent form. I used to pinch my nose with the fouler concoctions. How much did they charge you?

Alison - very few women get away with lip filler.....although i am sure you would be one of them. I like the idea of jolie type lips but know i would look more like pete burns [google it].

Briss - are you going back to your TCM man?

AFM - since my IVF i have been ovulating at different times. The month after was normal and then month after that 2 days later than normal [but had clomid that month] and last month and this month 3 days earlier than normal. Still i am confident i am still ovulating so i will hold onto that and I'm happy that CD10 is not too early. I still have a chance.

On the squirrel front they have all now died but i fear most of them in the loft. Unfortunately i saw one collapse in the hole in side of roof [visible from my bedroom widow on first floor of property] he now is dead but looking like he is sleeping and the first thing i see is him in the morning when i open my curtains. He looks so peaceful although i have noticed flies congregating around him. He probably came to the entrance to worn other squirrels to keep away. Its all very watership down in my roof and i cannot help but feel sad. The landlord paid 150 to the vermin chap but he says he cannot collect the dead bodies as too far up. I live in an old victorian house not the shard! Very disappointing.
 

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