Chinese Accupuncture

[alison29]

lol Blythe! Yeah I not even in the same universe as AJ. I have such white girl lips. My dh has great lips, and both my kids got mine! Poor things.

 

[Briss]

been watching panorama on stillbirth in the UK, quite shocking as most can be avoided with the use of doppler. it got me thinking that at Create they always used doppler so could see my blood flow but at RMU/UCLH they did not have that. I also wonder if CRGH used doppler at EC cos it would certainly help avoiding puncturing a blood vessel. I still can't quite understand what happened to me: was it a blood spill from a follicle or a blood vessel? you can't really get a litre of blood from a follicle, it must have been like a fountain in there I am also not sure if steroids I was taking played any role in what happened. should I be considering suing them?

I am not ovulating; no highs no peaks nothing, I am really concerned cos I usually ovulate on CD11 and now by cd 11 I do not even get oestrogen rise. clearly no oestrogen rise no follicles grow. what's going on with my ovaries? sex drive is my only comfort and a reminder of normality of my cycle, still there

the private doc said my right ovary is most likely not working properly not because of the cyst but because it's running out of eggs. I thought it happens simultaneously on both sides but apparently not. so my high FSH can be due to right ovary function and poor left ovary is normal but because it's getting so much FSh it ovulates early... so screwed up.

Blythe, day 10 ovulation is obviously early for you but it's still within norm. I also noticed that my FSH is lower when I O later so you may get a bit raised FSH after IVF (hopefully not).

surely they must collect the squirrel somehow, they can't just leave them there?

I do not know if I am going to dr E yet. probably not until I get the blood absorbed, I am terribly concerned about any possible infection going in there with a needle, probably not likely but considering my luck I should not risk it. also the whole point was to prepare my ovaries for IVf, get FSH lower but clearly it did not work, FSH went up and ovaries did not respond well to stims. I am getting convinced that I am just not suited for TCM. although if I get problems ovulating I may have no choice but to carry on with TCM cos western medicine is unlikely to help I mean they are just going to suggest climid or something.

I was feeling so low yesterday, it was 3 years since my father passed away and I could not be with my family cos I could not travel because of the blood. When we started IVf I though it either fails and then I can go or if it works then I won't go but then i will be doing an incredibly important thing for my farther being pregnant and all so it's justified. but what do I get? neither, something worse I am not pregnant and yet I can't go.

 

[alison29]

Sorry about your Dad Briss. My father passed away too 5 years ago. I am sure your father knows what is going on with you, probably even more now then when he was alive.

I agree with your conclusion that TCM was doing more harm then good for you. Maybe you can continue acupuncture but get rid of the herbs?

 

[Blythe]

Briss - just before EC i had to sign a form to show i understood risks...these being possible internal bleeding...puncturing bowel and other organs nearby. They said very rare but i needed to be made aware of risks. Did you sign something similar prior to EC? I think you need some more answers/explanations from this unit...it is the absolute minimum they should be doing for you. You need to be able to move forward with any further treatments knowing what happened in the last one....well at least as far as is possible.

you may end up with a similar diagnosis to my own...ie..."its just one of those things"...which does not help at all.

a later than usual ovulation is not uncommon post IVF, particularly when taking the higher doses. I notice that some ladies post clomid ovulate around one week later. Hopefully you will see a high in a day or two.

I'm sorry you could not be with your family at this time...anniversaries can often be the most painful times. I am thinking of you

I just don't know about TCM anymore. I feel the best way forward for me is to get fit again [i.e. do downward dog minus tidal wave of stomach coming towards me when looking up] and look good naked. I have said to DH that if i loose a stone in a month i will do IVF again.

 

[nobump]

Blythe don't think I like idea of dead squirrels in attic. Can you chase your landlord?

Briss sending you hugs at this tough time. X

AFM. AF has appeared on time so no issues post IVF. Hubby got me straws for drinking tea faster will try later. Thanks for tip. I payed £31 for herbs. Think normal price is £49. Think bag was 5 days worth but have loads of tea made... will last the week...Also blocked booked 5 ACU sessions at £150. Was pay £40 before for an hour session.

Day 4 of meds... also back on iron tablets so not sure which is to blame for my current side effects.

 

[Briss]

alison, it's so hard to lose people you love, years go by but it does not get any easier... i do not know why TCM did not work for me, it's so frustrating but I think the reason is probably cos I overthink everything. it works well for people who just believe without understanding and questioning. there is something about religious people that just works, it's in the brain actually - a certain part of the brain activates when we believe. I personally do not think it matters what we believe in as long as we do. so that's my next resolution to try and REALLY believe it's going to happen. I was watching this programme about Joan of Arc and apparently you can achieve so much if you just believe...

Blythe, i am sure I had to sign that form as well, and I read that the risk of bleeding is something like 0.07% - stupidly low so that does give me an indication of how "lucky" i am it's just that there are different types of bleeding - a follicle bleeding is understandable but blood vessel bleeding is not really, they can't be making a mistake like that i think.

Anyway you might be right about later O, I got my HIGH this morning so I am far more cheerful today.

TMI: my sex drive is just crazy, it's usually like that only it does not last long cos I ovulate early but this time around I am actually getting tired of it, am supposed to be working from home but constantly find myself browsing porn and making short breaks every couple of hours... unbelievable! I am supposed to be convalescing I hope it means I am getting better. should i forget about doctors orders and just jump DH? i wonder how risky it actually is?

I do not want to get fit... I love my morning pastries I am absolutely sure our fitness has nothing to do with getting pregnant but of course it's nice to be slimmer. I feel I need to spoil myself so I do whatever I want and eat whatever i feel like, I just had two soft boiled eggs - "forbidden fruit" for any TTCer

 

[nobump]

I say jump your DH I wish I hadn't mucked about with condoms while on IVF passion killer!

 

[Briss]

nobump, I did just that and no pain whatsoever! although we were very careful.

Also i got my PEAK this morning!! totally delighted must mean my ovaries are working right? obviously I can't be sure without temping if I really O but high/estrogen and peak/LH seems as good as it gets hormone wise. OPK was still negative though but the line got darker.

 

[alison29]

Briss you are so right about the faith. The big time jesus people as I call them have a glow of happiness they just look different some how that is even when they have a ton of children which can cause some moms to look tired and tensed. A belief that the lord will provide, just let go of control of everything.

That's greak about your peak this morning..

 

[Blythe]

Briss - so glad to see you have a BD recorded on your chart. Wonderful too about the sex drive....i miss that! Your chart looks great and it certainly looks like everything is working as it should.

I am getting fit simply because i want to feel in control of at least something. My weight is not such that it would effect any treatments but i just want to look good and wear lovely outfits. I was looking with envy and the George Cloony wedding pics and want to look like his new wife as she is a real clothes horse....not to mention totally gorgeous.

 

[Briss]

I am watching Nymphomaniac Vol II - fun, loving it! Clearly i am not the right person to promote the efficiency of "working from home" arrangements I know it's going to end in a day or two so may as well enjoy it while it lasts...

 

[Blythe]

i thought it was a porn film...i had to google it. It looks good!!!!

 

[Briss]

it's not porn in my books there is a lot of conversation and a meaningful story behind it. in the end it was not that funny actually quite the opposite but some elements were fantastic. my main problem with this movie is the actress, she also played in Jane Eyre and she is actually my favourite Jane Eyre so it's a bit confusing to see her in this role showing off her privates while I still have this imagine of innocent Jane Eyre in my head

anyway, i liked being at home and not working

 

[alison29]

I love being at home too. My dd was asking what I thought she should be when she grows up last night. I wanted to tell her a rich SAHM! Not a career woman who has to do it all. We settled on veterinarian. I am sure it will change. I hope she Is smarter then me and can get all A's I'm college.

 

[alison29]

I feel like barfaroni ate gluten last night after 5.5 months free argh hope it clears soon

 

[tubby73]

Hiya,
Yes. I am also having acupuncture. Had my daughter 2 years ago after several years trying, and am now trying for baby no. 2! My acupuncturist is fab! Teresa Redding who practices at Wimpole Street and SE9. Check out her website. I always feel great after treatment.
Good luck with yours.
Tubby. Xx

 

[Juliars]

I read that book, The Infertility Cure, and I think its pretty good. I also definitely believe in Acupuncture for fertility. Not because its a miracle path to conception, but because it helps blood flow, stress relief, hormone balance. All these have a larger effect on paving the way to conception.

 

[nobump]

Did any of you get asked to stop any meds while you are on TCM? I take tranexamic acid to help stem heavy menstrual bleeding. Acu guys says meds are helping from inside out and I shouldn't be taking other meds...

 

[Briss]

nobump, I showed my list of supps to Dr E so he could check it out and say whether any of theee may interfere with his herbs

 

[Blythe]

Briss. How are you?