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[alison29]

I agree with Terri those small ones can catch up ALOT can happen in a few days.

 

[Blythe]

Briss - it was only after 4 days of stims so still early. I had had a few more days of stims and there were lots of little ones and only a handful of the larger ones....

how are you feeling? are you sleeping well?

 

[gingmg]

Stopping in to cheer you on Briss!

 

[Briss]

terripeachy, I think they want the follicles to be aver 18 before they trigger

Blythe, thanks I am still hoping. a colleague just returned from her maternity, I know I should be used to this by now but I am still upset thinking about people getting pregnant having babies spending a year on maternity and coming back and I am still here doing the same thing. I am sleeping OK but hate waking up at 7 am for cetrotide injections.

had my acu session today, Dr E is hoping to have one more session during stims and then one for ET. points are still the same, so hoping it will help me grow more healthy and mature eggs.

 

[somedayisnow]

Briss, it aint over till it's over. FX

 

[Briss]

Thank you ladies for your support! a quick update, no miracles for me unfortunately after 6 days of stims on 450 menopur only 3 follicles seem to be growing (one on the side where I have a cyst so may not be accessible), the rest are small and does not look like they have time to catch up but I am still hoping. Will have one more scan over the weekend. I guess at this point I am just glad they carry on with the cycle and still hope for a positive outcome. I am trying to stay detached from the process cos up until EC there wont be any certainty as to whether I have any eggs and if I lost any to early O and up until ET I wont know if any embryos have survived so I have not cancelled any business trips yet and will deal with that when I get there. I have to be honest the fact that this is an NHS funded cycle takes so much pressure off, for some reason I'd be more upset now thinking how much money we are wasting. taking money worries out of this is huge actually. although I guess going forward it's just going to be a natural IVf for me

 

[Blythe]

Briss - thanks for the update. I have been thinking of you and will be keeping everything crossed that it all progresses well. Hopefully you won't have to think of natural IVF for quite some time....at least a year or two

 

[Briss]

Blythe, how are you?

I was so upset today, also put on a lot of weight in the last couple of months so nothing fits again! so went out and bought myself a new suit for work, slightly larger size but at least i can breathe in it. things at work are falling apart I think it's only a matter of time before they will ask me to leave but somehow I do not care that much

 

[Blythe]

It's so difficult to maintain a decent weight. I have joined a gym and been jumping around and generally feeling so much better but my appetite has gone through the roof. I have been snacking lots too so actually now look wobblier than ever!

I have ovulated really early this cycle...I was accepted to do the CB trials so saved a month on forking out for OPKs. They are the flashing smiley face ones....i started testing on CD8 as recommended and blank face and solid smiley face the next day. I would never pay for these ones and always go for the cheaper non flashing face kind. I know other women have had issues with these ones too. anyhow, that aside i think i ovulated around CD10....you never know an early ovulation may work for me!!

i have not been taking supplements for a few weeks now......after the shock of the IVF and hitting a new low i have moved into a new place. I don't think its a place where i have accepted it but i don't feel so consumed by it. I have had the diversion of looking for somewhere to live outside of london and the obsessing about finances as it looks like i would need to find a new job, but one that is outside of london. Sometimes i just sit there and say sod it, lets do another IVF but if it failed I'm just not sure how we would move forward....im not sure we would survive it intact. Its all about the finances...


why is work falling apart? are you sure you are not being too harsh on yourself as you were recently promoted? when you get pregnant it won't matter a bit....although you know that already.

 

[alison29]

Those opks do cost a ton. I buy the cheapest strips 20$ for 20 answer brand.
I have been trying to pair down my supplements too. It has to save a ton of money.

Briss don't worry about the weight just now keep eating right. I know when I cut down on caffeine it makes me hungrier and it burns less fuel also the hormones make me ravenous. I am praying for great fertilization rates for you.

My work friend's iui with 5 follicles failed WTH! It's just crazy. They told her well even fertile woman only has 20% chance each month. I was thinking more like 75% chance seems like most fertiles i know get utd in two months or less. Plus would,'t five eggs be like 5 tries?

 

[Briss]

I am getting even more depressed, one of my follicles has grown bigger than the rest and my LH is rising despite cetrotide so I think my body is gearing to ovulate despite all the medication. I feel like the history is about to repeat itself and we may lose one egg to early O. why is this happening to me all the time? Why would they not give me indomethacin to prevent ovulation between the trigger and EG? I know indomethacin is mainly used in natural cycle but what's stopping them to use it here? we have waited almost a year to try again and having exactly the same result would be a disaster, I barely survived our second failed IVF

sorry for being so negative, I just do not know what to do, they seem to be determined to carry on even if we end up with just one egg but one egg from a natural cycle and domical follicle cannot be compared to an egg from a stim cycle, the quality wont be there. just so upsetting

Blythe, i think early O is probably a sign that your body is still recovering from IVF. I am dreading to think how my body is going to recover from all this

I really think IVF will work for you, you had 14 eggs which is amazing compared to my 3 at UCH they would definitely do a split IVF/ICSI cycle and also apparently they do assisted hatching to all embryos. you are a good candidate for IVF so definitely something to think about.

I have not progressed much in my legal knowledge in the last 4 years TTC and it started to show that technically I am behind even more junior colleagues. I do have some strengths but not enough to hold on to this job for very long. at the moment there aren't enough people so I am probably safe but as soon as they hire somebody I will probably have to go. my promotion was actually not that great, I got the title but not the money that were supposed to come with it but I only found out about this much later. I was also promised a bonus which did not materialise one other colleague is off to maternity and I am stuck with her workload on top of mine...

alison, thank you, at the moment I am not even sure we will get any eggs. for some reason they won't consider turning it into IUI and trying another (hopefully NHS funded) cycle. probably cos they think there is no point stimming me any more.

I am OK without coffee, I do want it but at the same time it's probably my mindset but I almost feel sick when I see people drinking cappuccinos, I think quitting coffee is possible if you are motivated by (a real chance at) pregnancy but if my cycle fails I am pretty sure these capiccinos will look pretty appealing

5 follicles does not mean 5 eggs, also some may not be of good quality. I asked if my clinic can go after small ones and mature them in the lab but they told me no point as these follicles are unlikely to have good quality eggs

I did not use CBFM this cycle but started using OPK to track my LH cos that's my major concern now.

 

[Blythe]

This bit really is so very nerve wracking. I was torturing myself by reading about stories of early ovulation on cetrotide BUT there is not that many out there. It can happen but it is rare. I was told that ovulation of all eggs had only happened twice in many many years at King's. I know this does not help when there are a few follies but you just have to hand yourself over to the process. They have dealt with hundreds of cases like yours and they are making decisions based on experience and specialist knowledge. It may be they are not interested in the larger follie which might become too mature if they use indomethacin and want to focus on those coming up behind it......

Briss - you will handle whatever is coming your way. I hope with all my heart it is this cycle that will result in your long awaited pregnancy but if it is not you will survive it and you will continue with natural IVF cycles alongside TTC naturally and it will happen.

It is rubbish you have had to pick up your colleagues work and I'm sorry to hear they have not given you a raise to go with the job title...that is very poor! No wonder you are not inclined to give it your all although i know full well that is not that is not the reason why. You are focusing on what is important to you.

AFM - i did take climid last cycle so i suspect my early ovulation connected to that. My post IVF cycle was ok. i recovered well from IVF although i cannot lie the few days post EC were not pleasant due to awful swelling and exhaustion....

 

[Briss]

Had another scan today and not looking good. Only 2 follicles ready for trigger so ideally need one more day of stims but if we wait we may lose the largest follicle. They told me its rare but clearly it happened to me before. They will make the decision later today. All very sad. The only good thing is my lining. Was told it's the best he has seen today

 

[terripeachy]

They will make the decision today to stim one more day or to trigger tonight and go in for collection on Monday? I hope they trigger you tonight. I don't want you to lose that large follicle.

Before you said you had one large one and two smaller ones. What happened to the other one and which one was it? I am also PRAYING that this works for you. But...you can't be feeling down...emotions play a huge role in this process and nothing can be gained by being a debbie downer.

 

[Briss]

there are two follicles on the left that are ready for trigger but there is a smaller one on the right that need more time to grow, there a few smaller ones on the left as well but theses are unlikely to have time to catch up. so I agree I think we should trigger today cos we are risking to lose the best egg in exchange of waiting for the smaller follicle on the right which is the side where i have a cyst so it may not be accessible on EC or of poor quality anyway.

been begging for indometacin cos i am a believer it helps to keep follicles from rapturing between the trigger and egg collection. they game me the whole pack I think just to calm me down cos the doc said he does not think it will help but he sees no harm in trying.

am just seating here anxciously waiting for the call that will decide the outcome of this cycle

 

[Briss]

more bad news for me, my LH went up yesterday and they want to abandon the cycle the problem is I do not know if I can get the NHS funding refunded so we could try again. if we can't get the funding then we should take the risk and go head with EC on Monday. I do not understand why they did not pick on my rising LH yesterday, they should have probably triggered me yesterday. Why does not cetrotide work to supress my LH? I am supposed to make a decision tomorrow but I am really lost, if we abandon this cycle I am not sure there is any point in doing any more stim cycles, 2 failed cycles where I do not even get to EC is not a good record.

 

[Blythe]

Briss. This is bs!! I'm so sorry. I hope they will be able to confirm the finances before they make you make such a decision. They should be reassuring you that if cycle abandoned then you can start again and that if will be fully funded.

Did they take bloods yesterday? Have you taken trigger shot yet?

 

[smurfy]

more bad news for me, my LH went up yesterday and they want to abandon the cycle the problem is I do not know if I can get the NHS funding refunded so we could try again. if we can't get the funding then we should take the risk and go head with EC on Monday. I do not understand why they did not pick on my rising LH yesterday, they should have probably triggered me yesterday. Why does not cetrotide work to supress my LH? I am supposed to make a decision tomorrow but I am really lost, if we abandon this cycle I am not sure there is any point in doing any more stim cycles, 2 failed cycles where I do not even get to EC is not a good record.

So so sorry for you, they must confirm the funding situation before you make a decision. We're they doing daily bloods and why if they did test yesterday they only tell you today ? they normally get bloods back same day before you take stims in evening. If there is any chance go for it. Sending you a hug x

 

[kits]

Praying for you Briss, absolutely loads.

 

[terripeachy]

Will you be able to get in touch with someone from NHS before Monday? I hope that if it is cancelled you can get your money back. I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. It's so frustrating especially because you know your body, have done the research and no one wants to listen to you. I'll hope for the best possible outcome for you.