CIO Support Group

[Vestirse]

If that works for you, go for it I don't so much try to limit naps as I do try to get him to take bigger ones instead of cat naps. With the cat naps he seems to wake up over tired. I was just passing on what my ped said. I haven't forcibly woken him up or anything unless we need to be somewhere at some pre-determined time, but then I try to schedule around the times I think he's going to be napping so it hasn't come up that often. Honestly, I don't like waking a sleeping baby anyway.

I definitely agree if he is going from over an hour to 40 minutes is a big jump and if it was my son, I'd think he hadn't gotten enough and try to get him down again (I use a pacifier and white noise at nap times as needed). Alec does take one short nap (30-45) at the end of the day, so I thought you might be talking about a usual short maybe 50 minute nap.

 

[Arcanegirl]

I get you now you explained better

 

[Elliebank]

Nap times are becoming a nightmare again. I don't understand it, sometimes she will go in her cot no problem, play for a bit & then go to sleep with no crying, but other times (like now) she will scream the place down. I don't do anything different so why does she hate it sometimes & other times is fine? She's supposed to be starting at a childminder next week, what am I supposed to say to them, just leave her to scream & eventually she'll go asleep?

 

[taperjeangirl]

they go through phases like this, Daisy sometimes still does but it passes quickly.

Your childminder will figure out the best way to get her to sleep and sometimes that is what she will have to do , because she will probably have other kids to look after ....

Try not to worry too much

 

[Arcanegirl]

When we have babysitters (2 diff people) i say to them he will go to sleep if he was left, but i dont expect anyone else to do cio like we do.
If they have to cuddle to settle then so be it, the routine with us will always be the same.

 

[Vestirse]

Alec can be so erratic too EB. We find something that works, then he grows out of it. We've told our day care worker (childminder) that it's ok to let him cry a bit too, but I think she holds him. I can understand how hard it is for her with other kids who are trying to sleep too, so I don't interfere. We're still trying to get bedtime sorted, so one battle at a time.

 

[Arcanegirl]

How long do you think it takes to see noticeable results?
okay so today was pretty good, yesterday not so good. Were a week in.

 

[Rachiebaby24]

aw well done for staying strong AG.......I remember going in the kitchen once and plugging my ears and humming to stop me from crying....i was amazed when i took out my fingers from my ears a while later and the crying had stopped....

People think that CIO is cruel but in fact it is very hard to do as a parent but i know that it works and both me and my baby are happier having had a decent nights sleep!

 

[Rachiebaby24]

How long do you think it takes to see noticeable results?
okay so today was pretty good, yesterday not so good. Were a week in.

I think it depends on how stubborn your LO is!! Even now though, Maley will sleep through 99.9% of the time....but everyone has an off day!

 

[Arcanegirl]

IVe stayed strong and as TJG knows i have struggled with it.
Ive actually looked into the Sleepsense method which seems to be an inbetween of CC and CIO. It allows me to go into Alex if i need to, but to also push me to wait that little bit longer than i would before going into him.
I feel happier that i have the option to go into him. The only part of this method to work on is to get Alex to realise that its okay for us to stop comforting him when he no longer needs it and still self settle (the idea is you pat/rub etc but still leave them in the cot untill they have calmed but you stop before they fall asleep)

 

[Vestirse]

Like Rachiebaby, I think it depends on the child. We aren't fighting all battles yet, but trying to get him to eliminate one of the night feeds we don't think he needs. He's just about there, whimpered for less than 5 minutes last night at midnight and put himself back to sleep. This is after a week of CIO for that waking.

It hurts me while it is going on (the guilt is really horrible!), but I am happier for it after it's successful especially after I see him still smile at me, play and be well-rested.

 

[Sherileigh]

I need some help. I did CIO with my LO when he was about 8 months old. It worked very well. But about 2 months in, he was really into the routine and would fall asleep at the bottle before bed. I didn't wake him, just put him down. Well now of course a monster has been created. He's gotten a cold and will wake up multiple times at night, and it'll take about 2 hours to get him back to sleep. I haven't done CIO again as he's still a bit sick. But I am counting down the secs until I can do it again as neither of us can survive like this much longer. I'm functioning on a few hours sleep per night if I'm extremely lucky.
My son is older now and he can pull himself up to standing in the crib, so my question is, do I need to go in and lie him down each time he gets up? Or do I just leave him to it, with the expectation that he'll go back down when he's ready to sleep?
HELP!

 

[Sherileigh]

Anyone?

 

[Arcanegirl]

This thread has been dead fora while, give it a bit and someone might find it. Im about to jump in the shower but ill get a read when i get back.

 

[maybethistime]

with aaliyah we just leave her as she does the same, way I see it is she is safe in her cot so I just leave her 2 it

 

[Sherileigh]

Ok, maybe we'll give that a try when he's feeling better. Even just rocking him to sleep now isn't really working as we can't put him in his crib without waking anymore, so it takes forever to put him down! I'm going back to work in a few weeks, so need to get this sorted ASAP.
My mom stayed over and gave me a night off last night...it was great!!

 

[Arcanegirl]

With the standing up, just leave him. If he knows how to get down then he will eventually. We try and encorage laying down before we leave but if its a lost cause then we leave be.
The falling asleep on teh bottle, we had that and found that was the prop for sleep that caused us some problems. We started keeping Alex awake when taking the bottle, doing everything we could then putting him down in teh cot awake. No prop for sleeping, then the less crying for it and eventually none there will be.

 

[snugglebot]

Girls, not sure if you are still here, but I am looking for info on what CIO/CC method you used?

I will be waiting a couple weeks I think before going forth but did make some failed attempts at sleep sense style CC - aka being in the room.

First time we did an hour of going in every 5-10 minutes, after an hour, we decided to switch to sitting in the room and speaking to him. After a total of 2.5 hours of CC we caved.

Second time, I just sat in the room not speaking but putting him on his back over and over.... He would doze off but then start up again. After 2 hours, I caved.

DH can't handle even 5 minutes. Any suggestions for books/methods would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Elliebank]

The first night I did it, I bathed Katie & fed her (both boobs). Then put her in her cot & left the room. She started crying immediately. I went back in after 5 mins, stroked her face & shushed her, prob stayed for about a minute doing that (sometimes it calmed her, sometimes made her worse). Then left the room without saying anything. Did this every 5 mins until 1/2 hour, then increased it to every 10 mins. She was asleep by 45 mins. The 2nd night she cried for 10 mins then after night 3 didn't cry. If she cries now (more so at naptime than bedtime) I tend to leave her no matter how long it is (doesn't tend to be long anyway) unless she is getting really worked up. I've not used it during the night though as she doesn't often wake up & if she does it's easier to feed her & put her back in bed (she never cries when I do this).

 

[Vestirse]

I know it's hard Snugs. We did a gradual approach by eliminating feeds. What is your routine before putting him to bed? We do BLW at diner then warm bath with toys after. I then dress him and put him on the floor to play. I sit in a glider and when he comes and signals that he wants to get up, I nurse him for 10-15 minutes. He usually starts pulling off and rubbing his eyes by then. I then kiss him, say some variation of "Good night baby", put him down and wind up a musical stuffed animal, then make the room dark (we have blackout shades and put a blanket on his crib). He cries for 5-10 minutes still some nights and others he'll actually crawl into his preferred sleeping position and put his thumb into his mouth.