CIO Support Group

[Elliebank]

This is brilliant, I've only just "found" it (well only just seen Arcanegirls link in another topic)

We've been trying CC and it's soooo hard, I didn't realise how hard it was. Is this totally wrong?

6:30pm Bathtime
7pm Daddy home from work - cuddles
7:15pm Up to Mummy's room for "quiet time/cuddles" & a bottle
7:30-8pm Transfer to cot when drowsy if not asleep from bottle?

Should I not give her chance to get drowsy? Am I setting myself up for a fall by having the cuddles?

The only thing I'd suggest (but not sure if it matters that much - it's just what we do) is keeping her upstairs after her bath. I bath Katie with no light on in the bathroom, just using the light from the landing, then take her into her room (or if she was still sleeping in our room, I'd take her in there), again with no light on & just using the light from the landing, massage her & feed her then put her in her cot awake. Cuddles are great for her & Daddy, but maybe do them upstairs instead of bringing her down where I presume it's light & maybe the TV is on?

 

[nikki-lou25]

I will try keepin her upstairs

Its silly o clock and I've been doin CC since 2am on and off

Hubby thinks I'm on another planet and seems pretty p*ssed at me right now, I've told him this is the only way. He thinks its just a phase...but I think a phase could turn into a habit and I'd rather nip it in the bud if I'm honest.

I'm not a bad mum am I? I feel like one Sleep deprivation and hearing LO crying is the hardest thing to get over!

 

[maybethistime]

ur not a bad mum hun, getting her used to her bed and room will really help u in the long run. when I was sleep deprived I could not function so being with lo was really hard for me. But now she is only up for milk and goes back 2 bed one or 2 times a night. and she goes into her cot awake, I think if u can get lo used to going down awake then ur on to a winner

 

[Annaspanna]

HI ladies, Im gonna be joining you guys

Lyla has always slept pretty good until the last couple weeks, where she has mastered rolling over at night :doh:. Now as soon as I put her in her cot she feels the need to roll if she's semi-awake and then she'll scream and scream until I eventually give in and rock her to sleep(which I've never had to do before!)

The problem is that she's always slept on her front, she hates her back, and for some reason if she rolls onto her back in the night she is incapable of rolling back over to her front (which she does all the time in the day!!) so Im having to go in and turn her onto her front again, by which time she's wide awake and squirming around and rolling back over again, nightmare!! Ive had two weeks of it, and now I've pretty much had enough!

Do you think Its acceptable for me to use CC for this now? I now also have problems at every nap time with the same issues and we are both exhausted. Last night she had me up about 10 times and thats after taking about an hour to get her down eventually for the night. i feel like I've failed her in some way, but I know something needs to be done. She also has a dummy at night, but recently she's been in such a state that she keeps spitting it out every time I offer it to her (she just fights sleeping for soem reason) so gonna try giving the dummy up now too I think.

Sooooo hard!!
x

 

[Arcanegirl]

We had that exact same issue as Alex is a front sleeper too, though the dummy usually got him back to sleep okay and it was a phase that passed.

Im not sure how much before 6 months would be a good idea to do it, hopefully someone else can advise

 

[Annaspanna]

Hiya!
Well I started CC last night and she took an hour to go to sleep, and then slept for 11 hours straight, she's never done this before without stirring a few times! Im amazed, I know it prob won't continue but im gonna persevere, she's 6 months on tuesday so I think its ok. x

 

[nikki-lou25]

Aimee's doing well with her sleeping. Hard as it is, I think CC is paying off! Bless her She seems much happier too *touch wood*

 

[celine]

Hi ladies, the cc/cio is very very hard but sleep deprivation is much harder. You are all doing a great job
This is a fab support thread because not everyone gets to that point where enough is enough and you cannot go on, when we started cc it was so tough on me and we got it down eventually, last week lo was rushed into trauma Unit and we stayed 2 nights in hospital so the routine was a bit wonky but thank goodness now its back to normal, i just had one or 2 trying days!

 

[Sherileigh]

CC is working for us so far. Last night wasn't as great as it has been...but still so much better than it was before we started CC. He usually goes down in under 10 mins...sometimes only 2 and haven't even been doing this a full week! He wakes up once during the night for a bottle, usually around 5, then goes straight back until 7-8. But naptimes are completely different. Have only had one successful nap...it's driving me crazy!! Any tips???

 

[nikki-lou25]

Naptimes aren't as straight foward for us as night time. I'm not sure if you LO has anything in his cot but I found Aimee playing with things in her cot (with her projector and teddies) so I removed anything that she can play with or distract her from sleepin. She does still struggle to get off but when she was playing it was taking up to an hour, now maybe 20 mins?

 

[Elliebank]

We have problems with naptimes too - if I'm lucky she'll go down with only a bit of whinging, but normally we have at least 10 mins of crying before she falls asleep. Most day it's 20mins or more tho I've just taken it as normal & hope that 1 day we'll have naps without crying, as we do for bedtime.

 

[Arcanegirl]

WE had the same problem with naps too, weve gone backwards a bit that i rub Alexs back to get him down but ive found he goes down quicker this way and still has no problems self settling when he wakes up overnight.

 

[maybethistime]

aaliyah seem 2 be quite good with nap times, but I leave her with her toys and she gen goes down with out ne crying not sure why tho. so sorry cant really help there

 

[celine]

I too found nap times very touch and go, i dont wnat to come on here and say i have it sussed or you KNOW Im asking for a tough week of no napping lol.
I think its to do with timing, for us I realise normally 2-3 hours after he wakes up g starts eye-rubbing but then he has had a boobie feed about 30 mins after wake up and some brekkie an hour (more or less) later, sometimes its as close as he eye-rubs while still on that high chair then i give him another boobie in the rocker in his room, sometimes it goes haywire and he just WONT nap! Those days SUCK, and its hard if you have something planned in the afternoon cos it almost throws the whole day away iykwim? If we have nothing planned I try to to cc/cio and sometimes it will work.

I say goodluck this stuff is hard! But so far it has worked very well at night, and now well in the mornings and trying to do it with a wee afternoon snooze too.

 

[Arcanegirl]

I think we are back into full CC again. We have been quite relaxed with naptimes recently and its now having a knockon effect with other things like lunchtime.

We had thought Alex was dropping his mid morning nap as he would show the signs but not go to sleep without a fight, it seems now we need to put up the fight as the result is an even worse fight when it comes to lunchtime and he wont eat when hes too tired.

I guess my only concern atm is when Alex does properly drop a nap, will we know without spending ages fighting with him with CC to get him down?

 

[maybethistime]

Im not sure about dropping the nap, but with aaliyah she used 2 have 2 hours then one hour one, she now decided she only ones 2-3 hours She started hiding her tired signs until the very end so I tend to get her down from about 11ish. so she is fresh for her lunch.

hope the CC works again hun I can understand wher ya coming with being a bit relaxed with it. I think we got to that stage now and at the moment she can stand in her cot and it needs lowering so she is napping in her travel cot at the moment xx

 

[Arcanegirl]

Only posted a month ago here

Well we have gone *majorly* downhill in a month!
Weve got to a point where it seems Alex has forgotten how to settle himself and always wants someone with him to cuddle him!

He has to be very drowsy or asleep to go in the cot, or he stands up straightaway and starts screaming!
He has to be held the right way (his way) and rocked and patted.

A bit too much really!

Part of me wants to get back into CC again but i really think we will have a rough ride if/when we start it/ He screams so so loud and sometimes earpiercing!

Any advice?

 

[lynnikins]

we have started to CIO now after not getting any sleep for 10days without him being on one of us or in his carseat which neither are ideal, DH took me to the spare room last night and made me phone my mum ( in Australia ) and shut the doors so we couldnt hear DS2 and it took forever but he did stop and then we went to bed and he slept 2wice as long as he ever had before and woke for a feed then slept again in his own bed after that without having to cry at all but he was practicaly asleep when i laid him back down and hes slept in his bed every naptime today, will see how we get on tonight but i hope i dont have to resort to the spare room as i'll come downstiars to watch tv if i have to, i cant be in the same room caus his screaming makes my milk letdown happen which means then im full and cant sleep myself and affects my supply the next day,

 

[Arcanegirl]

Are you doing CIO on Elliott?

 

[lynnikins]

with my DS1 then he gets left and settles within 20 min or so and is asleep and only once has gotten out of his toddler bed and fallen asleep on the floor, with him though to get him into a routine when younger i would use supernannys technique and stay in the room facing away but turn and lay him down everytime he got up then when he was staying laying down go just outside the room and work from there,
TBH i find nightlights counter productive with toddlers as it keeps them awake more than the darkness but i always try to have a radio playing softly in the background as noise so that sudden noises dont startle the boys and wake them like me and DH going up to bed,
with Naptimes then they need them up to about 2- 2 1/2 years old so dont drop the naptime too soon, my eldest still sleeps 1 1/2 hours but spends 2+ hours in his room at naptime sometimes up to 3 depending on if hes slept through the night before,
unfortunatly with toddlers you just gotta grit your teeth and deal with the screaming if you know they are ok then get some earplugs and go as far from their room as you can if you need too, in the summer i used to go into the garden with earplugs and a book if ds1 wasnt settling ( had to re-sleep train with every growth spurt it seemed )