Clomid Buddies (moved from TTC board)

I never got a positive on a digi because they are less sensitive and my hcg never got high enough. I had positives on FRERs and Walmart cheapies. Now I only use FRER to confirm since I'm on progesterone and need to know for sure one way or another before stopping. I think the Walmart tests (First Signal) are just as sensitive but can take 10 minutes to show a faint line. Also, the First Response tests seem to be cheapest at Walmart compared to other locations.
 
So I was just talking with my mom about our upcoming doc's appts. She was telling me that her first clues when she was pregnant with me was that her boobs felt funny and she was exhausted. I didn't mention it because I don't want to get her excited, but I am feeling both of those things!

I am exhausted, have been all week, but have been chalking it up to reduced caffeine intake. And my boobs feel funny. I can't describe it. They don't hurt. But they feel weird. And possibly a little bigger.

This would be just too good to be true I swear...<3
 
It's getting harder and harder not to get my hopes up. I am so afraid of a giant let down. Ugh.

DH told me yest I put too much pressure on myself, and I just told him, "It's impossible not to, I might as well embrace it", LOL.
 
I know, it's so hard! Especially when you have symptoms. I basically convince myself I'm not pregnant and then if I am I am pleasantly surprised! Well, actually after 3 CPs I think I'll be terrified! And you're right, we are going to think about it no matter what!
 
Ask, I'm really sorry to hear about your test results. It must be so hard to take in. But you do now have an answer for the CPs and I'm am so hopeful that the doctors will be able to do their thing and you will get your baby <3

Fingers crossed for you Lucy!!!

And congratulations on the O Earth!
 
Hello everyone! I've been chatting away with steph in her journal for a while now and she recommended this thread to me, so I thought I would say hi :)

Hubby and I are 28 and have been TTC for a while, but right as I came off the pill I knew something was off because my cycles were very long (38-40 days) and I had one 55 and one 83 day long cycle. My gynecologist diagnosed me with PCOS and referred me to a fertility clinic where we had our first appointment at the end of June (so this is all still fairly new to me and I'm still adjusting to it). I have also been tested by a diabetologist and my insulin and HOMA index are both fine, so I will not be given metformin.

Yesterday, we found out that in addition to my lean PCOS, hubby might also have low sperm motility (so slow swimmers), but we need to wait for a second SA in 8 weeks to confirm this. In the meantime, we have decided to go ahead with treatment, so I am starting my first cycle of 50mg clomid this cycle (tomorrow, Saturday, on CD 5) and will be taking it CD5-9. If I ovulate, we will then do an IUI to give the "lazy boys" the best chance.

Does anyone here have any tips or insights on IUIs? I have been trying to learn more about them, but I feel fairly overwhelmed with all the news atm.

It will take me a bit to catch up with everyone's stories, so please bear with me!

@Lucy
Sorry about your temperature drop, I know what it's like when you hold out hope and then your temperature drops after all a few days later :(
 
Welcome fluffy! I can't help you with IUI, but it looks like we are headed that way too so I guess I will be joining you soon.

So I am sure I am grasping at straws, but bear with me here. I can't help but wonder if this morning's temp could have been an implantation dip. Of course this would mean that all of my "symptoms" up until now have been all in my head, but that doesn't surprise me, lol. But this would also explain why I am still getting BFN's. Obviously only time will tell, but my logic is this. If this morning's dip was because of implantation, that would suggest implantation happened yesterday or earlier. Yesterday was 12 DPO, which is not common, but not impossible from what I can tell. And I did have some pink tinged CM this morning as well.

Also, I have been questioning my O date this whole time. Here's why: I have been using the Ava tracking bracelet for about 7 months now and have been seriously doubting its accuracy, because its prediction never seems to match BBT or OPK's. But maybe it's been right under my nose this whole time. So while Fertility Friend says I o'ed June 8, Ava says it was June 11. Which doesn't jive with my pos OPK June 6, but as many have said, a pos OPK doesn't mean that ovulation will happen, and there have been other months where I found myself googling "can ovulation happen 5 days after pos OPK". Maybe my body has an early surge and late O? Ava doesn't factor in OPK's, but it does measure skin temperature and resting pulse rate. With Ava's O date, that would make yesterday 9 DPO, which is the most common day for implantation. And here's an interesting tidbit from Ava's blog:

Contrary to popular belief, BBT doesn’t always rise immediately after you ovulate. According to a study that compared BBT readings with ultrasound—the gold standard in confirming ovulation—only 11 percent of women have a BBT rise within one day of ovulation. For many of the women in the study, BBT did not rise until more than two days after ovulation.

Practically, this means that 89 percent of women using BBT are identifying the wrong ovulation day. If you’re using BBT to time intercourse, you may over- or undershooting your fertile window by several days and reducing your chances of conceiving.


We often stop BD'ing when we think the O is over, but this month I decided to pretend like the 8th and the 11th were both O dates. Maybe we've just been missing it all these months? And although Ava's reading this morning also showed the drop in temp, my pulse rate is still up, which is a good sign. It normally falls before AF.

So anyway, there's my logic. Trying to justify it all per usual, lol. I am sure the next morning or two will make it all crystal clear. Unless AF makes her usual appearance before then. Thank you for humoring my crazy obsessiveness for a few ladies. :)
 
Thank you Lucy :) I looked at your chart, and I think it *might* be possible that you only ovulated on CD 19 or even CD 22, so who knows! I've read similar things about identifying the day of ovulation, so we always BD about 4-5 days longer just in case ^^"
 
Thank you for validating my obsession, lol! And I am worried about CD 22 too. But I don't think it was CD 22 because of CM. Wish I had started paying attention to that sooner. And I really hope that wasn't it, bc if it is we didn't bd long enough, lol.

It's so hard to find a balance between being hopeful and being realistic, lol.
 
Did you get egg white, stretchy CM on day 19? If so, then that would be a strong sign of ovulation! I've tried to interpret my own CM but no use with annovulatory cycles *sigh* always the same. If it was CD 19, your timing would have been great :)

I find that honestly, it is not possible to have the right balance between realistic and optimistic. I like to realistically know what our chances are, like right now my doctor said about 10-20% in this first clomid cycle is what he estimates. I try and keep that in mind, but I get my hopes up either way so I try to enjoy the hopefullness - the bad news will come soon enough, no point being sad about it already!
 
That's the problem, I wasn't paying attention to my CM until CD 21. Now I know better, lol. I am cramping today. It feels similar to AF, but not quite, but that could be all in my head. I don't know what to think. Feel like it could go either way. Though the odds are definitely in AF's favor. :/

And true that. Enjoy the hope while it lasts I guess, lol!
 
:hugs: I'm sorry Lucy! I haven't seen a link for your journal, can you catch me up on what treatment you are currently undergoing?
 
I haven't been keeping a journal, and technically I am not under any treatment at the moment. Here's a brief summary:

-I went off BC in July 2015. We were basically NTNP for about a year. I was charting, and had extremely irregular cycles (26-48 days).
-We started TTC in June 2016. Go figure, right off the bat I had a 3 month long anovulatory cycle. Doc put me on progesterone to bring on AF. Did a bunch of blood tests and an ultrasound before prescribing clomid. Did 5 rounds of it. Long story short, nothing happened. Went back to the doc, she basically said there was nothing more she could do, and referred us to the RE. Who unfortunately had like a 2 month wait for an appt.

So now we've just been waiting for our appt with the RE and praying for a miracle in the meantime. DH goes for a SA on Monday, and then the following Wednesday we meet with the RE. Not sure what direction they will take us.

Personally, I have long suspected PCOS, but I don't have a lot of the usual indicators. So it will be interesting to see what the RE finds.
 
thank you for that summary :) I don't have *any* of the PCOS signs either other than long cycles - not overweight, no extra hair, hourglass figure. My blood test and my ultrasound came back as "typical lean PCOS" though. Do you know your blood results? If you have elevated testosterone, that would fit the PCOS diagnosis. It can present with or without ovarian cysts.

If you're seeing your RE on Wednesday, then you should have some answers soon! :)

When I do ovulate (or at least when I think I do...) my cycles are 38-40 days, so pretty regular, but the annovulatory ones are much longer. Similar to you, once we started TTC properly, I had a three month cycle which the doctor finally broke off with progesterone. Frustrating when that happens right when you need it least, isn't it?
 
Ditto to everything you said. Not overweight, no serious acne, no dark facial hair. I don't know if they tested my testosterone though. Is there another technical term for that perhaps? If not, then I am guessing they didn't test me. There was some initial concern about prolactin, but when they retested it was normal. My doc didn't mention anything about the ultrasound either. She commented that I shouldn't be alarmed that it looked "like swiss cheese"; she seemed to think that is normal. But then again, I haven't always been thrilled with her. I remember when she tried to talk me out of going off of birth control.

We see the RE Wed August 2, so we have to wait a little bit longer. And I know a lot of people have cramps before their BFP, but these are pretty strong right now, don't think this is it. :cry:
 
a similar thing to test for is androgens, do you remember if those were elevated? The "swiss cheese" picture is what my fertility specialist described as "classic PCOS", so I'm afraid that does sound rather like it in combination with the long cycles. My clinic says they see tons of women with PCOS though and it's one of the easier fertiltiy issues to treat (if that is the only issues), so it's far from the worst diagnosis :)

I'm sorry if this is not your cycle. However, once you do get to your RE, you will know that you get the best possible care both for TTC and for early pregnancy, both of which are very important on your journey to motherhood. Maybe try and distract yourself from looking for AF signs a bit by watching a good movie or something? Sometimes distraction is the only thing that helps me cope with TTC!
 
Yeah I don't think she tested me for that. Not surprised. Felt like she was just going through the motions. And in a weird way I am kind of relieved to hear that the ultrasound sounds like PCOS. That's what I thought too. I've been kind of annoyed with my doc for awhile, but I don't really have other options where I live.

And yup, that sounds like a plan. Go curl up with DH and watch a movie. I think we even have popcorn at home, lol.
 

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