Clomid & male factor infertility

[Mamamirfy]

It's all happening so quickly. I'm so excited for you. They don't transfer more than 2 at my clinic...(or maybe all of Canada). I remember my DH brought Jon and Kate on one of our visits and the FS " No....that can't happen here, you can transfer 1 or 2 max". What's the deal with the injectables? I don't much about the IVf process.

 

[pink32]

hi girls,

in Australian they will only transfer 1 or 2 also...they really put u off wanting 2 to go back...go on about risks of multiples etc. x

 

[Mamamirfy]

My FS told me it's a 50% chance with one and a 65% chance if you put in two. I would put in two.....too much money and effort for a 50/50 shot.

 

[MySillyGirls]

Hiya, girls! Yes, it is happening FAST!! Here is what I was told: If at 3 days post-retrieval, the embryos are struggling a bit, they will transfer 3 3-day embies. They are less likely to implant than 5 day blasts. If at 3 days, at least several embies are doing well, they will wait until they are 5 day blastocyts (sp?) and then they will only transfer 2 as 5 days blasts are much more likely to implant. These numbers are based on the US protocal for my age (almost 38). So, we are crossing our fingers for the 5 days blasts as the pregnancy rate is higher but it does reduce the risk of high order multiples also. Although, I would be a-ok with twins. I am a 5'10 woman so I think I could carry a couple LOL

Regarding the injections...I get all of my medical supplies for this delivered on Tuesday. The doc said that I start those 4 days after I finish the bcps and then will take them for 10-12 days. For a period of time, there will be two a day. One injection, as I understand, is to prevent an lh surge and the other two are for ovulation stimulation. At my age, they are relatively aggressive with the injection protocal as they need to try to get as many eggs as possible because they might not all be high quality. The goal is to get 10+. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, I thought clomid made me cranky. My neighbor across the street used my FS and has both of her daughters to show for it. She has offered to give me injections. The doc wants to train DH to do it. DOUBLE YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MySillyGirls]

My FS told me it's a 50% chance with one and a 65% chance if you put in two. I would put in two.....too much money and effort for a 50/50 shot.

My chances are just a tad lower than than that due to my age BUT, still really good odds! I like the idea of a better than 50/50 also as we will only have one shot. Plus, my neighbor had two implant and only one made it

 

[MySillyGirls]

Oh, one more thing, my fs has never had a patient over 35 with 2 blasts or 3 3 day embies have more than twins. However, he did have a patient under 35 with 2 blasts have QUADS!! Two sets of identicals as each embie split.

 

[pink32]

Hey girls,

silly - how exciting its all happening for u babe! your FS sounds so much better than mine..he hasn't explained anything...he just said if we do icsi that he prefers to only transfer 1 and gave the rant about risks with multiple births etc.

mirfstar - how u doing?

 

[pink32]

i'm also a bit confused with IVF and how they determine which injections etc.. my friend has no ovulation issues and only took the injections for 5 days and then they did the egg transfer after 3 days and she's already in her 2ww?

i'm confused...everyone operated differently...

my FS suggested exactly what u will be doing silly?! who knows!

 

[MySillyGirls]

Hi, ladies!! Pink, I bet he wants to do only one blast transfer since you are under 35. Also, we told our FS he only has one shot (insurance will cover this once) so we have to make the most of it. I think they might be less aggressive if they know you are willing to do multiple cycles. We did, however, agree to freeze any remaining blasts so that if we do it again in the future we will be able to at a much lower cost.

As I understand there are a few different protocals...a short protocal, antagonist protocal and a long protocal. I am not sure why one is better than the other, but I think they base it on your age and your specific fertility issue. In terms of the meds, they correpsond to the protocal. Since I don't have a problem ovulating the protocal may be different but enhanced to get increased egg count.

My FS is an amazing guy. He literally spent an hour with us on Monday (and didn't have to) explaining every aspect and offering all kinds of personal experiences and stories. I felt at the end my dh was rushing him to finish the consult as he had to get back to work. LOL! I just hope he can get me pregnant....

Ladies, I can't wait to hear how your next cycles go!

 

[pink32]

which protocol has you fs suggested silly?

mine suggested the antongonist protocol which 45 days or so....

i'm headed down the ivf road if this doesnt work for us too...have 6 days to go fx'd

 

[MySillyGirls]

Oh, fingers crossed for you, Pink!!

I think I am on the short protocal although he didn't actually call it that. It is basically a month of the birth control pill and then 12 days of injectables before hcg trigger. Hcg trigger though won't be like the trigger I had with iui (waiting 36 hrs). Instead, they give the trigger and you have to go in like 8 hours later. It is crazy.

 

[Mamamirfy]

Silly - Wowzers! There's so much happening when you do IVF. It's going to work for you!! I just know it. It's very exciting. That whole quads things scares the S#$% outta me! I'm 5'10" too so I could carry a couple no problem too....i think I think you should get your neighbour to do the shots.....I wouldn't want my DH doing mine....LOL.

Pink! How many more days now??? Feeling anything at all? A friend from here I started talking to in april just found out she was pregnant and this was the first cycle she felt zero symptoms!

 

[pink32]

Hey ladies,

Silly - the short protocol sounds alot better than the long...

mirfy - i dont have any symptoms...no sore breasts or nipples, nothing unusual than any other month....

I've heard that ppl with no symptoms have gotten their bfp's but i just don't know...

i'm dredding next week, don't want to test, don't want to know....Well i only want to know if its BFP so i have 5 days to go!

 

[MySillyGirls]

When I was pg with my daughter I had no symptoms exept one short wave of nausea around 11dpo. Other than that, I was sure my af was on its way.

Mirfy, quads scares the ^(&(*) out of me too! Dear Lord. Triplets even scare me, but I think I could cope there. LOL.

 

[pink32]

hehe triplets ! wow i think i'd faint....Twins i could handle but triplets - oooh no thanks

 

[MySillyGirls]

Pink, you should check out the www.fertilitycommunity.com IUI board. There are currently two ladies who did IUI who found out they are pg with trips! LOL!

 

[pink32]

your kidding! i'm going to check it out right now!

you sound ok with it silly - hehehe xoxo

 

[pink32]

oh my goodness silly! ur right.. Pregnant with triplets...Wow how amazing is that! Could be u babe! imagine that xoxo i'm going back to read some more interesting stuff....

 

[MySillyGirls]

Bite ur tongue! LOL! this is IUI so could be u right now! hahahaaa

 

[Mamamirfy]

Oh my! Triplets???? Even I think that's too much...and I want twins! DH really enjoyed the acupuncture...said it was relaxing. That's a plus. I would love to be relaxed but think I'll go towards the massage route instead. 5 more sleeps isn't long at all, especially with the weekend coming, always gets ride of a couple days quickly.