Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[Round2]

Nato, I know you know this, but don't freak out if there's no heartbeat. It's easier said than done, I know. But really, it's quite early and chances are you won't see it yet. Other than, just positive thoughts, deep breaths.

Sparkly, I've got everything crossed for you too.

I can't wait to wake up to all the good scan news tomorrow.

 

[hoping:)]

Nato You would think the second time around we would all be given a break after what we went through for our Rainbows. I am very optimistic as well for you! No cramping and less spotting sounds like a positive move in the right direction to me.

I'm not sure what you can ask at 6 weeks besides if they see a reason for the bleed. I will be praying for at least a yolk sac, fetal pole and hopefully a early heart beat! We will virtually hold your hand through it. What time is your appointment?

 

[NatoPMT]

yeah youre defo right, espec as Im not exactly sure what my week+day is, i put my LMP into my ticker, but my MP's have been 26 days recently, not sure if that makes my ticker later or earlier than it should be <youdothemathsface>

i do think it might well be ambiguous tomorrow - if i could wait until 6+2 i would be safer, but im not waiting till next wednesday which would be my next free day to go.

 

[NatoPMT]

Nato You would think the second time around we would all be given a break after what we went through for our Rainbows. I am very optimistic as well for you! No cramping and less spotting sounds like a positive move in the right direction to me.

I'm not sure what you can ask at 6 weeks besides if they see a reason for the bleed. I will be praying for at least a yolk sac, fetal pole and hopefully a early heart beat! We will virtually hold your hand through it. What time is your appointment?

Thanks!

i dont have an appointment, its a walk in EPU where you cant make appointments. I waited for an appointment requested by my GP last time and waited 4 weeks before calling and finding out they don't make appointments. Stupid EPUs. Will get there about 10am, so could be home early afternoon my time if its not too busy.

if i was actually 6 weeks, there defo should be a hb, its just im not entirely sure what my dates are.

I defo ovd on 12 Dec if anyone can work that out.

 

[NatoPMT]

just found a pregnancy calendar on babymed where you can start from date of ov, and it says that i am 5+6 today, so will be 6 weeks tomorrow. I should defo see a hb tomorrow if all is ok.

my ivf dr told me that if you dont see a hb by 6 weeks, there's a problem and that was non negotiable

 

[msarkozi]

hmmmm, I don't know how to feel about that, because I know other doctors say it can be different. I am praying everything is all good tomorrow. With the time change, I should be waking up and hearing some good news when I get to work

 

[NatoPMT]

i did question him on it Mel, and he said they give a few days either way in case your conception / ov dates are wrong. He was very adamant, but I have also read differently.

He was sure when he said its a hb now or never when i had my 6+3 scan with him. Not sure if that is definitive, but he was very, very sure.

 

[LucyJ]

Nato I will be keeping everything crossed for you. Will be holding your hand all the way.

 

[Round2]

I think that's crap Nato. Yes the heart starts beating in the 5th week, but not all sonograph machines can pick up the flicker that soon. My clinic refused to scan people before 7w3d just to avoid any confusion.

 

[msarkozi]

well let's just hope you can see a hb tomorrow so you don't have any frets about not seeing one right away

 

[NatoPMT]

I think that's crap Nato. Yes the heart starts beating in the 5th week, but not all sonograph machines can pick up the flicker that soon. My clinic refused to scan people before 7w3d just to avoid any confusion.

thats a different matter though, if the hb can be picked up vs whether its there.

He said if the hb isn't present by 6 weeks, theres an issue, if the hb isnt picked up by the sonographer's equipment, thats not the same thing

I can see why that would make the buffer be added in, actually thats reminded me, I have also read some sonographers miss it through human error too and get the wrong depth. I assume this dr a) has the best equipment and b) felt his ability was not lacking so felt in a position to make that statement. He is technically right if the equipment issue is the only reason, biologically the hb IS there

That does however, mean that ambiguity tomorrow might be down to that on my NHS scan and not as catastrophic as Id thought it might be

 

[hoping:)]

I was told as long as the heart beat is seen by week 7 all should be ok any way I will hope for an early heart beat tomorrow so we all don't have to obsess over this rest up and update us as soon as you can!

 

[msarkozi]

hope you ladies are sleeping well!! will check in tomorrow morning once I get to work. Good Luck

 

[Sparkly]

I hope all is well for your scan today Nato, as you know my first scan was @ 5+5 and we saw flickering heartbeats.

My bleeding has settled to a bit of brown staining every now and then with no cramps, but this for me means nothing. I had no cramps or spotting with my 2 mmc and not much bleeding with my mc

I have hardly slept and am knackered and nauseous...really not looking forward to this scan...it's at 11.30am.

 

[vickyd]

Nato the heartbeat by 6 weeks is a bit of a grey area i think. My doc was also very clear that there should be a heartbeat at 6 weeks if the scan is done by a highly qualified technician or MD. When i had my mmc, i had no bleeding or cramping at all and my symptoms were there all along. I went in for a scan at 6 weeks and there was no hb. He told me unless my dates were off it was not good. I waited two weeks still no bleeding or cramping and went back for a scan. I guess what im trying to say is that just because you have a bleed or cramps does not mean you are having a mmc. You say you are 6 weeks today but if you have your dates off by even a couple of days it could mean all the difference. Remember with Hero when i was so sure about my dates but my hcg was so low that 2/3 doctors thought i was heading for a mc???? My Sil passed so many clots and had so much bleeding that up until the day she gave birth i was sure the pregnancy was going to turn out badly. Try and keep positive although i know its so much easier said then done....

 

[vickyd]

Sparkly good news the bleeding has stopped babe!!! Good luck on your scan today!

 

[NatoPMT]

Sparkly thats wonderful news - i hope its the start of you getting more wonderful news today

Vic, Im not as sure of my dates as I was with Eloise cos i wasnt tempting and my cycles are not the standard 28 days at the mo so that 1 or 2 days could make the difference. The mmc thing is hanging over me.

Im not expecting good news though, the bleeding is still there, still bright red. In my head it just cant be ok. Im absolutely crapping myself and posting here to delay getting ready to go. Eloise has just gone with John to his parents so i have no excuse not to be getting dressed.

Im walking the plank.

 

[LucyJ]

Nato this sucks that you have to go through this I am praying that all is ok with your little bean.

Remember I had heavy bleeding and horrific cramping with Benjamin at the time I couldnt see how a baby would be alright but he was and to this day it still amazes me that he came through it all.

Im seeing my dr at 11:00 hoping she'll get me in for a scan and maybe do blood to see what my hcg levels are. I know it sounds crazy but I have a really unsettled feeling like somethings not right.

Will be thinking of you and sparkly

 

[prgirl_cesca]

Good luck nato I am thinking of you xxxxx

 

[VGibs]

Gonna have to sneak myself to the WC to check on everyone from my phone today....good luck ladies. I have hope and faith all will be well.