Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[sugarlove]

Hearty what's an MRI? i thought the lap on its own proved endo?

 

[msarkozi]

to everyone that needs them!

 

[heart tree]

An MRI is like an x-ray but they use magnets instead. It is a common test for many different issues and can be used on any part of the body. It stands for Magnetic Resonance Imaging.

A lap will diagnose endo, without a doubt. What I was saying is that if they don't find endo, you might request an MRI to look for adenomyosis like I have. Often my issue can't be seen on anything but an MRI. I'm not saying you have what I have at all. I'm just suggesting another test if your lap doesn't show endo and you want more info. Honestly though, I'm not thrilled with knowing I have this condition, so maybe you don't want to ask for an MRI.

 

[LucyJ]

All of the above hearty heavy periods horrifically painful spotting in between pain/discomfort during sex (although not all the time I think that the position of my womb is a factor in that as some positions are worse than others) I had all the symptoms of endo but it wasn't they had a really good look around at everything. Had my stomach checked as well after the pernicious anaemia was diagnosed in case I has problems there all normal. My periods have always been bad since I started getting them at 13 they are not as heavy as they used to be when I was in my early 20's but still painful but pretty used to it now so quite good at coping hopefully I won't be having a few for a while.

I tried google but kept on finding negative stories/information decided it was freaking me out so stopped googling. I think I should be able to see a gestational sac and a yolk sac.

 

[heart tree]

Wow Lucy, it sounds just like endo! I can't believe they didn't find any.

I just googled too and I came up with the same thing, gestational sac and yolk sac. It is possible to see a fetal pole this early, but not necessarily. A fetal pole should be seen by 6 1/2 weeks. A hb would be lovely to see but again might not be seen until 6 1/2 weeks.

 

[cazza22]

Luce I reckon U'll see a gestational sac a yolk sac and if you OV'd a day or 2 earlier there's a possibilty of seeing a fetal pole & HB. I had a teenie tiny fetal pole of 4mm at 6w and a iccle HB but I'm pretty sure I was further on seen as I got put forward at both my other 2 scans so there's a possibility I was more than 6w iykwim?
What time is ur scan? I'll be thinking of you at that very moment babe xxxx

 

[LucyJ]

Hearty I was so shocked when I came round and they said everything was normal things got worse which is why I had a second one done about 6 years later and still all was normal. They put me on the pill which eased the flow a bit but that's about it and told me it must be my stomach which I knew it wasn't as I'd had that checked. I was also told to get pregnant as that would sort everything out!! Thanks for checking for me.

Caz my scan is at 8am. Thanks for the advice as long as I see a gestational and yolk sac I think I'll be happy but a hb would be lovely.

 

[sugarlove]

thanks for the info Hearty. I'll just have to pray if I have either conditions, that they aren't too severe. I know endo is graded by severity. Is adenomyosis the same?

Lucy it does sound like you had all the symptoms of endo? Maybe it just improved on it's own

Sorry to be graphic, but BDING really hurts doggie style sometimes and I get horrible cramps afterwards. I strongly suspect the pill was masking a lot of symptoms for me.

Lucy, I shall be checking for good news of your scan tomorrow

 

[sugarlove]

PS Hearty, I see you checking out the pregnancy test forum!

 

[Allie84]

Thanks for the info on the procedures. I don't fancy any of that! I'm going to wait for the 1 year TTC mark before investing in that invasive of testing, I think. It sounds painful and expensive. My insurance doesn't cover fertility stuff, either. So far I'm there under the guise of 'long cycles.' When you mean they go up through your cervix....they cut it? Or can you go near ov when it's open? I'm literally grimacing as I type! I'm really empathetic to all of you who have gone through this much testing. You're braver than me.

Lucy, I will be thinking of you and sending soooooooo many good thoughts your way tomorrow girlie.

I'm off to yoga. My mom is acting up again (bipolar) and I need to relieve more stress than a massage can offer.

 

[heart tree]

Ha ha Sugar! I'm caught in the act!

I love looking at positive lines. I sometimes scratch my head at some of the ones people post. They are only 7dpo and their tests are super negative, but they think they see a line. Poor things.

I think my condition is only based on severity because of the symptoms women have. It can cause severe pain throughout your cycle, especially during AF, BD'ing and having a bowel movement, but you can feel it all the time. Luckily, I don't have any of those symptoms. Though this cycle, my uterus has been very crampy/achy on days it normally isn't. I don't know if it is the meds or the condition. I hope you don't have either issue.

Wow, these cards are going to take me forever to make! I get really ambitious with my projects. You all better frame them! LOL!

If there are any of you who aren't part of this exchange that want a card, PM me your address.

 

[heart tree]

Allie, you know when you get a pap smear and they put a q-tip into your cervix and swipe it around. It is like that. They push a catheter up through your cervix. They don't cut it. They also don't wait for Ov. In fact, the hysteroscopy has to be done right after you finish AF. So your cervix is super tight and closed. Ouch, ouch, ouch. It really isn't invasive though. But it doesn't feel good.

Have a great yoga class. Sorry about your mom. I really need to get back into yoga. It is one of the only things aside from acupuncture that helps me reduce stress.

 

[sugarlove]

I know Hearty, it is sort of funny when the test is stark white and they are saying that they are defo seeing a line. I've seen people get really arsey if people say they can't see a line too

Do as I did with the cards and cheat by buying them!

Allie sorry to hear your Mum's bi polar is causing you stress. Hope the yoga helps poppet!

 

[Megg33k]

I didn't quote the post apparently... but can I say how horrified I am at the comments quoted from that article?!?! GET A FISH? You've got to be fucking kidding me! And, let one person tell me that I shouldn't have done IVF because not having a baby naturally was God's way of telling me I shouldn't be a parent. I swear, I will find the closest pointy object I can and ram it straight down their ignorant throat! Lesson: Don't mess with hormonal women!

Hi girls I hope you all had a nice Christmas

I finally got af on Sunday. Christmas morning I took a test and it came up with a very faint line but then I started spotting later that night so I don't know if it was a chemical or an evap. Either way I'm happy to finally start a new cycle. Unlucky for me, my FS' office is closed this whole week so I was unable to get my cd 3 testing I will still be able to do my saline ultrasound next week. Does only the FSH hormone level have to be tested at cd 3? Can they test my thyroid, estrogen, testosterone etc after that?

Good luck tomorrow, Lucy

Megg, did you get a scan date yet? I am very excited to hear about it!

Hearty, I hope the pain you are feeling is just a super o and a nice eggy was released

I did get a scan date. Its a week from Friday @ 8:45am. Countdown ticker in my siggy.

hey everyone :wave:
back to crappy work 4 me today booooo!! I just wanna hibernate haha lazy cow! I've got a new symptom going on this week I'm ITCHING on my tum and boobs it's the most anoying itch, I'm smothering on the cocoa butter for the stretchies and had my blood pressure checked because I read it can be signs of preaclampsia? My BP is fine though thankfully

Meggles I remember ur older posts about ur urine not processing hcg in big doses, I think the way you've kept piccies of your tests throughout ur hcg shots is a reallh good idea because when they get darker your gonna know ur numbers are above that of ur hcg shots do over 2000/3000 . I did 36 tests so I'm in no place to tell
you to stop testing do whatever keeps you sane baby doll! Xxxx lov ya

Ps yay I'm an avocado lol xxxx

Yeah, I'm pretty pleased that I tested so often with my 1st trigger and labelled everything appropriately. Its made me feel much, much better! I know that testing more makes some people go bonkers, but that one crappy, cheap test has really set my mind at ease for now. That's why I have 4 more... in case I lose my way again!

Yay for being an avocado!

Cazza - Avocados are my favorite...had one tonight with a bit of salt...yum! Glad your baby is busy growing.

do u know what chick.. I've never had one not ever?? I have no idea how big or small they are I just know there bigger than an orange because that was last week hehe xxxx glad there yummy though xxxx

I've had an avocado... I think they're disgusting!

Hi girls. How are you all doing?

Hearty big I'm sorry but I've missed what you're doing with the expert that you were going to see? When is your appt sweetie? This bloke may be able to really help you. Spotting can still mean BFP, so try not to lose heart yet. I feel your pain with the ovay pain. I'm about 4/5dpo and eel like someone's stabbing me with a knife in the ovaries.

Boo to those who are back at work

That link to the article made interesting reading, but some of the comments were shocking!

Yogi, hope you are feeling a bit calmer. I'm sure for you next scan, you'll see a lovely hb hun.

Hi to Dazed, Hoping, Allie, Grandblue and Cazza.

Hi to newly preggos Lucy and Megg, hope you're doing ok and looking forward to getting some happy news from your scans.

AFM, I've been in bed all day crying. Rang the hospital to see if they had a date for my lap, and apparently they are thinking of not letting me having it on the NHS as it's connected to fertility, which they aren't funding in York at the mo.

I went off on one big time and ranted on about how my Doctor referred me for pain and spotting back in July, which was nothing to do with fertility and I still haven't had the god damn lap done.

I've now got to see my GP for her to argue the toss with these stupid people. I fucking hate the NHS and wonder why I'm bothering paying my taxes! I feel like I'm fighting a losing battle here and am starting to lose hope. I'm booked to see my GP next week and if I don't get results through her, I'm putting in a formal complaint to York District hospital through the patient liaison service.

Sorry I sound such a miserable cow, I feel like I only ever post negative news on here

Sorry if I've missed anyone out
xx

OMG! That's horrendous treatment! I can't believe that they should be able to deny you just because it COULD be related to fertility. Its also related to your flippin' health!!!

Yes, you are pretty much right Sugar! The HSG is the dye test. In my case, I didn't do a lap, so it was similar to a hysteroscopy. They inserted a catheter through my cervix, into my uterus and then put dye through the catheter. They x-ray your uterus and tubes to see if the tubes are blocked or if your uterus has an abnormal shape.

A hysteroscopy is when they insert a catheter through the cervix into the uterus and fill the uterus with saline. Then they insert a tiny camera and look around to see if there are fibroids or polyps. They can then try to remove them on the spot. I had a tiny polyp that she tried to remove. No pain killers for any of this! OUCH!

The lap is minor surgery where they cut into your belly button to look at the outside of the uterus for endometriosis.

The insertion of the catheter and the saline/dye both are uncomfortable. Way more tolerable with Vicodin though!

Sugar, my insurance paid for investigation up to a point. They tried to charge me for the HSG but I complained and told them it was not for fertility purposes, it was for pain I was having (which actually was true). I also would have been charged for the MRI if they thought it was for fertility. My doctor made a point of saying on my records that it wasn't for fertility purposes. Actually all of it is related to fertility, but if we had said that, it wouldn't have been covered. At this point, nothing else is covered. My meds aren't covered, if I do IUI, it won't be covered. Any more conversations I have with an FS won't be covered. It sucks.

Oh and to answer your question about the doctor in Florida, they haven't received my records yet to review. They want to schedule an appointment but I can't fly 3000 miles for an appointment. I just emailed them and told them I wanted a phone appointment after he reviews my records. If he thinks surgery is an option, I will fly to Florida.

I like the plan with the FL doc! I hope they get the records and phone appt done quickly so you'll have a better idea of the next step!

Wow Lucy, it sounds just like endo! I can't believe they didn't find any.

I just googled too and I came up with the same thing, gestational sac and yolk sac. It is possible to see a fetal pole this early, but not necessarily. A fetal pole should be seen by 6 1/2 weeks. A hb would be lovely to see but again might not be seen until 6 1/2 weeks.

I've found the same thing. I'm trying to figure out what I'll see too. I'm going to be right on that cusp of "could but might not" stuff. I'll be 6+3... which is basically 6.5 weeks... but its a time when even 2-3 days can make a HUGE difference. And, I have a feeling that I'm going to be dangerously close to spiraling into a bad place if I'm on the "might not" end of things...

 

[Megg33k]

Oh... P.S. I've loved all the cards I've gotten so far! If I could stop sleeping all day, I could create/mail the ones you lot!

 

[LucyJ]

Thanks girls what would I do without you all, you really do keep me with one foot in reality the other is totally in crazy town

Allie enjoy your yoga hope it helps you distress

Right girls I am off to bed going to try and get some

Love to all

 

[hoping:)]

Allie- I think af was pretty normal for me... the beginning may have been a little heavier but I'm just going to think of it as an evap. PS- I love your hoody I went to UCCS

Hearty- thanks for letting us know vicodin takes the edge off. I have some left over from my mc so I will definitely be taking it for my saline ultrasound next week

Sugar- it does sound like endo. I have symptoms that lead me to believe I may have it as well. I usually have very painful periods and bowel movements during that time of the month are not so pleasant either

 

[sugarlove]

Hoping, I hope neither of us have nasty endo!

Night everyone
xx

 

[Megg33k]

Definitely hoping that no one has endo!

 

[yogi77]

Hi Ladies, I will do a catch up in a minute but just wanted to post an update.

Got a call from my doctor today regarding my blood tests and ultrasound results...She was at first very pleased with my bloods because they had gone up to 60,000 last Thursday, from 38,000 on Tuesday and she said once they are that high they don't expect them to double every 48 hours anyways.

But she wants me to go again in 2 days for another scan because they only saw a gestational sac and yolk sac and couldn't be certain if they saw the start of a fetal pole or not.

And because I am a POAS addict, I POAS today and the test line is lighter than it was a week ago. It's lighter than the control line, and last week the test line was darker than the control line. I'm gutted.