Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

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Nato your post made me squeeze my vagina really hard! Ouch. That's just not fair. Makes me kind of glad Tim is circumcised. At least he suffered some genital pain at some point in his life! Men have it too easy.

Vicky you go with your Seven jeans. You can bring them back. If the 80's fashion can come back into style then so can Seven jeans. And I honestly didn't know they went out of style.

I'm slightly dreading getting weighed tomorrow at the doctors. My last weigh in 3 weeks ago was my heaviest ever. And I know I've gained. I'm about to go into uncharted weight territory and I'm scared. I know there's a baby in there, but something about seeing yourself heavier than you've ever been is disturbing.

 

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Nato- she is rolling from belly to back... she gets very lazy on her back and will only reach across to get a toy You undercarriage description made me shudder as well... poor Nato I hope next time the birth will be a lot easier Before I said no more kids for me but I went to a psychic last friday when my sisters were in town (most of the details in my journal) and he said there were more children in my future I would normally not think anything of it but he was so spot on with everything else. Tim was terrified of the thought

Wow, Sassy! You flew throught this pregnancy!

Dazed- I love your attitude You so deserve the most amazing kid ever! I hope hubby's sample is good. I was really worried about Tim's because he has smoked the green stuff for a few years but he was perfect and the specialist had no problem with him continuing (tim has a license so it is all legit)

Vicky- you live in a whole other world! It is so scary that is happening and you live in the thick of it!

Maternity clothes- I love them! They were the comfiest things ever!!!

 

[NatoPMT]

Morning girls

Sassers: I am going to see my GP before i start TTC to see if i can get anything Mr T prescribed. I got progesterone, clexane and steroids from him, plus aspirin i can get myself. The clexane is expensive so without a diagnosis for clotting, i doubt the nhs will prescribe. I was prescribed it for killer cells which the nhs dont really agree with. The steroids are very cheap and not a problem to pay for, but they are a hardcore drug with side effects which would reduce the likelihood of prescription, again espec as the nhs dont fully treat killer cells. My diagnosis for killer cell activity is also not agreed with by the NHS, i only have blood levels, not uterine level diagnosis, which also means, do i trust that diagnosis? Lawa had her uterine levels tested but it was a trial not widely available treatment

so i have a dilemma, well actually not really, because i cant afford Mr T again, it cost a lot of money and i cant go into central london every day, waiting around for hours for blood tests that cost £2-3000 a month and appointments and scans etc with a young baby


I see Cazza is expecting a girl - amazing news

Hearty, if i described the aftermath you would be cringing and squirming all right. I think the aftermath was worse than the birth for me - which weirdly, i could cope with and took pretty much in my stride. I thought id freak out and lose it but the hypnobirthing defo helped me - i did 18 hours with no relief at all, not even water or gas/air. I was freaked out by how heavy i got too. I just kept on going up and up and up.

Hoping, i loved maternity clothes until i became stuck in them forever and ever. Now i am sick of the sight of them - i had to upgrade to elasticated waists at 8 weeks cos of the steroids, and over a year later i am still in them. Out damned maternity clothes

Why do you only want 1 out of interest? I might be stuck at 1 cos of my age, so am interested to hear why you would choose that and see if i can take that attitude too

 

[Jaymes]

jaymes excema is also related to stress. Is your little girl a worrier? I have a friend who suffers really bad outbreaks when shes under stress. No cream or steroid ever helped her, the only thing that seems to work (apart from lack of stress) is homeopathy.

She is not a worrier, nor is she an unhappy child, she is always smiling and usually getting into trouble doing it! I'd say if there was any emotional issue with her it'd be an anger issue. She can be quite violent with her brother when angry... I've not tried any homeopathy specifically for her excema, but I may pick up some rescue remedy just to see if it helps at all!

Jaymes I had eczema once really bad on my legs (I have a light version of it every now and then). It was orgasmic to scratch but I ended up with painful sores on my legs because of the constant scratching Poor thing. The only thing that has helped me is to keep up with my vitamins (maybe try some L-Lysine which is an amino acid that helps promote healthy skin)and I don't take as many hot baths because it makes it worse.

I've not tried lysine either... She is prone to horrible mouth sores too, so maybe there is an imbalance! Thanks!

Jaymes, have you tried Eucerine Calming body wash on her? I get terrible bouts of excema and the only thing that will eventually relieve it is a high moisture body wash. I know I recommended Eucerine, but I'm currently using a newer Dial body wash. I think either of those with the cream may help. Unfortunately, I get most of mine on my boobs, so its embarresing when I HAVE to scratch.

I don't use any soaps of any kind on her, I make her laundry detergent and she washes with soap free moisturizing cream. No suds for her at all! :/ (I can't imagine the pain of having itchy breasts.)

Jaymes, i think i sent Lucy a scan of my book about eczema, if she still has it she might eb able to forward it to you, i cured myself of yeast allergy using this book. I cant scan it now as im not at work.

Do you know the name of the book? I don't mind looking for it locally or getting a copy off eBay or something. I've had suspicions it could be a food allergy, but no clue what as it has never shown on a skin or blood test before. We've never tried cutting out yeast, but she may have had it tested...

(Drumming fingers). You ladies have given me loads of info... Thanks!

I feel like the only time I have for bnb is early morning these days so I'm missing loads of posts! I'd love to meet at the empire state building!

 

[Dazed]

Jaymes, have you tried Eucerine Calming body wash on her? I get terrible bouts of excema and the only thing that will eventually relieve it is a high moisture body wash. I know I recommended Eucerine, but I'm currently using a newer Dial body wash. I think either of those with the cream may help. Unfortunately, I get most of mine on my boobs, so its embarresing when I HAVE to scratch.

I don't use any soaps of any kind on her, I make her laundry detergent and she washes with soap free moisturizing cream. No suds for her at all! :/ (I can't imagine the pain of having itchy breasts.)QUOTE]

The Eucerine isn't really a body wash. It doesn't suds up like soap and I think there is only a very mild cleanser in it. But I understand. Its a beotch to live with and DH always feels so bad for me when I have a bad breakout. When I got my first bout of it when I was around 19 it was on my neck. It always looked like DH had attacked my neck with a vaccum.

 

[NatoPMT]

I have a bad breakout. When I got my first bout of it when I was around 19 it was on my neck. It always looked like DH had attacked my neck with a vaccum.

sounds like a nookie badge to me

jaymes

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Most-Impor...=sr_1_9?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1334324273&sr=1-9

its a brilliant book, it helps you to link all the conditions you know and dont know you have to find causes and treatments. For my mushroom allergy, it linked leaky gut, sugar overload (Lindt), thrush and candida...so i cut down on sugar and got supplements to heal my gut lining and now i can eat an accidental mushroom without my face blowing up - it still happens occasionally (every couple of years i get hives) but im no longer intolerant to things like quorn and no longer get thrush.

its a very clever book.

 

[NatoPMT]

hmm just looked up RA and it links to leaky gut, candida, sugar and over consumption of aubergine, tomato, peppers and potatoes - which i eat by the bucketload. Really must go and see my GP about my joints and stop faffing.

 

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Nato- Originally I wanted at least 2 but after going through what we did to get Penny I’m not sure if I could put Tim through that again and I don’t want Penny to see the emotional toll it takes on us. I just don’t want to push my luck. Also, I just don’t know if I could ever love another baby the way that I love Penny. I feel like I wouldn’t be able to give the next one the same attention that I am able to give Penny. Silly I know. I’m sure that would probably all change if I did have another but I just don’t know. Tim was an only child and he loved it! He has only ever wanted 1. I thought being an only child would be boring but he always has had very good friends that he has kept into adulthood and sees as his extended family. They were all in our wedding and 2 of them are Penny’s godparents. If we were to have a surprise baby we would be very happy. I just don’t ever want to TTC again and I definitely wouldn’t think about another until Penny is at least a couple years old. I feel that with one child we can be as attentive as she needs us to be and I can be the best mother that I know how to be. Right now it is a quality over quantity thing.

Jaymes- I get cold sores and the L-Lysine helps to clear it right up

 

[LucyJ]

So much to catch up on was out yesterday and had my brother his gf and her little boy over today.

Nato yep I still have the email and can send it to you jaymes if you would like. Have you tried cutting out diary or wheat see if that helps here. I have to be very careful of both and dont really eat anything with wheat ot gluten in and my diary is very restricted. My eczema is very up and down and has been since being pregnant but I think it is due to hormonal changes it was under control untill I came of the pill and then was horrific and being pregnant made it worse. Its still bad now the itching can be inbearable. I use a emolliant and have strong steiods creams have been on so many courses of antibiotics in fact just completed a course.

I cant remember everything I read sorry Nato I think you asked about AF nope still no sign of it Ive cut down on breatsfeeds as Ben is having 3 soild meals a day and have started to introduce a formula feed.

Round yes yes yes to meeting on top of the empire state building I'll be there what a great idea.

Oh and yes to dicso meet ups I want to meet all you lovely ladies.

Nato Im going to be coming home in june I think for a few days so steve can redo our bathroom and was thinking if you were about maybe Benjamin and I could come up to london and see you & elosie.

Sorry to all you girls suffering from spd it sound horrific.

Sassy 4 weeks wow not long till you meet little milo

Congratulations Cazza so happy

 

[LucyJ]

Dazed good luck when steve did his test we had to wait 2 weeks for the results and then he had to repeat them.

Vicky I hope you find somewhere close to your parents. Good news your cycles have sorted themselves out hot doc is good!! Are you thinking of trying for number 2?

 

[Round2]

Dazed - I got knocked up with pathetic sperm! He only had 6 million post wash - the bare mininum to do IUI was 5 million. So even if it is bad sperm, there's till hope. Also, if it does come back low my doc raved about a vitamin called Fertility Aid for Men.

Nato - I had a big rip after giving birth. Can't remember how big it was, but I know it was quite big. It took a good 6 months till things felt right down there. But it does get better.....hopefully in time for some baby making!

Vicky - I really need to see a picture of this hot doc! I'm picturing George Clooney.

Hoping - See I was an only child and I've been obsessed with making sure my DD wasn't. But I think that is more a result of the fact that I had a crappy childhood. It sounds like Tim had a great experience and you can give that same thing to Penny. I have to warn you though, you're going to get alot of annoying people telling you to hurry up and give your dd a sibling. I was in a meeting a work once when somebody gave me a lecture about giving my daughter sibling....coincidently I was pregnant at the time and found out the next day that I had miscarried for the 3rd. I almost jumped that lady when I saw her in the hallway the next time.

So should we start a countdown till our Disco meet up! Ha, I wonder how many disco babies will be born by then?

 

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Thanks Round! I am already getting crap about it now. I am asked on a daily basis when we are going to give Penny a brother or sister. I would have smacked that lady! How dare she

Things may change but for now I say only one but who knows what will happen. If Penny wanted a sibling I would definitely reconsider it and as she gets older and is no longer a baby we may miss the baby phase. I grew up with my younger sister (Kris) and have an older half sister (Shannon). I don't really get along with Kristen because we are polar opposites and she is only a constant source of worry for me. I love her but sometimes it is hard to be patient with her. When I was younger I was constantly giving up things to make her happy.


I had a horrible scare with Penny last night. She woke up early so I brought her back to our bed. 10 minutes later she starts flailing her arms & legs and sounded like she was choking She started bawling so I know she was breathing but for a seconde I panicked because she was panicking. When I originally brought her to bed her nose was a little stuffy but she was breathing fine so I didnt suck out her nose. I did suck out her nose after she calmed down. I'm not sure if she swallowed mucus or something but it terrified me She is just fine now but it was awful. Have any of you had this happen with your LO? Do babies automatically breath through their mouths?

 

[NatoPMT]

Hoping, Sassy and I had a very similar conversation re: not being able to imagine loving another baby. Re: the toll it might take, for me, i dont think it will be as bad 2nd time round as i do have Eloise, i can understand a) it might be for others and b) i might actually find it is when i get there.

I feel like I wouldn’t be able to give the next one the same attention that I am able to give Penny. Silly I know

I am really worried about this. They say that if you have a 2nd child before the 1st is 18 months then it can (may) impact the development of the 1st child as they need 18 months of sole care. So what about the 2nd child, who NEVER has sole care? I am a 2nd child and im a right mess up, and most of the younger children i know are the wayward ones. I mean some people actually have 2 at once.

Unfortunately i dont have the luxury of waiting a few years but i defo would if i could. I dont want Eloise to be an only child but if she is, i will hopefully deal with it ok, I have a beautiful little girl and am very grateful for her.

sounds like your younger sis is pretty demanding. I argued with my sister, but not like that and i am so glad she's around now (although she's starting to get a bit like my mum). Do you think your sis is like that through parenting or because its who she is...? with your experience and Tim's i can see why 1 child sounds attractive. Its always your own choice and no one else's, but you can make your experience what you want it to be, with 1 or 6 children. It doesnt have to be for penny how it was for you. But you can make it for her how Tim's was if thats your choice.

Not sure what was going on with Penny. Glad shes ok and it was just momentary. She mightve inhaled a bit of spit - prob a one off so dont worry. she mightve inhaled a feather from the bed or mucus anything. At what point do you have to suck out her nose? ive never done that

Luce: would LOVE to see you - yes of course!! Is home Essex? If its nice we can hang round the back garden but i will be keeping my eye on Ben near Eloise. I dont want any broken hearts.

Rounders thanks v much, i feel a bit better knowing that you took 6 months to heal properly. I am not quite there yet but its good to know im not alone in taking a long time to heal - im not freakishly unhealed.

Its unbelievable that aquaintances think they have the right to lecture you about having more children. Your story just highlights that...she doesnt know whats going on in your life or what choices you make / have made for you. I have to admit, i used to ask people if they were going to have children, but now i know better...but lecturing people??? judging them? tut bloody tut

 

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so I've been running last night over and over in my mind. Right before bed I gave Penny her bottle and added some rice cereal. Originally I was told this was ok but now after researching some more some experts say not to because it can be a choking hazard. I gave her a 5 oz bottle and then 3 oz with rice cereal. It took her 45 minutes to drink 2 oz of formula/rice cereal and she was sucking the entire time I'm guessing because the hole was too small. I wonder if she just got lots of air in her tummy and that is what caused her to choke/gasp for air hours later? Either way I am NEVER doing that again!

 

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Nato- I'm glad I'm not the only one who worries about having/not having a 2nd child. You are right. I can make the experience what I want it to be. I think we will hold off making any major decisions for a couple years and see how Penny is adjusting. What you said about the 2nd child is true in many cases... especially with my little sister.

Regarding my younger sister:

Spoiler

I think my sister is the way she is because of how we were brought up and my dad also thinks she is mentally unstable (I have an entry in my journal where I talked about her last episode) and it really scares us sometimes. My parents were good to us but they didn't give us a lot of responsibility. The only thing they expected was good grades and for us to excel at sports. They did everything else. I was always independent so was able to take care of my self but my sister still lives at home and my parents pay her bills and care for her kids unless they are with their dad. She recently admitted she no longer wants her kids and it breaks my heart She was the happiest kid I knew until we moved to Colorado in 2000 and then she sunk into a depression, talked about suicide and just never came out of it. She has been to therapy and has been on meds but has no desire to make it work. She takes advantage of people, lies, has no self worth and doesn't care at all. It really upsets me because she is a beautiful, intelligent girl with so much potential. I've tried reaching out to her many times but she just spits back in my face.

 

[NatoPMT]

Crikey. I do remember you talking about this before. Not wanting her children is hardcore, Im so sorry you have to deal with this.

do you think the lack of responsibility has had that much terrible consequence? does she say what she feels has led her to this place? what was the trigger with the move to colorado? Im sure you've been over all this a million times so i understand if you dont want to talk about it.

I have never given eloise any cereal. I'm starting to think i don't know what i'm doing, with this lack of routine and im worried about weaning as i dont have a clue.

 

[Jaymes]

NATO Eloise is not quite 6 months old... So it is perfectly fine to not have given her solids! I started Lexi at about this time, but not in a bottle. She enjoyed it, and it was pretty runny the first few times, but after that it didn't take long for her to move to finger foods. Now she wants everything anyone else has!

 

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Nato- I don't mind talking about it but it is very lengthy. I could probably right a book about it but I will keep it short. I would say all of it has had a play on how she turned out but the move was hard on her and when everything started to unravel When we moved from the Reservation (In New Mexico- it is 99% full Native Americans) she was not used to not knowing everyone. It was a culture shock and she withdrew into herself. We all went to family counseling over it. That was what started this downward spiral Before that she was the happiest kid I knew. She always had a good joke and loved making people laugh. We still get glimpses of this but now it is overshadowed by her self destructive behavior

Jaymes- I usually give Penny rice cereal in a bowl so I'm just going to stick with that I just started to give it to her once a day but I think I may hold off until she reached 6 months because she doesn't seem entirely ready. Her eyes are glued on our food when we eat so I know she has interest but she still has the tongue reflex and pushes most of it out. She does get super excited when she sees the rice cereal though and smiles throughout the whole feeding session. It is the cutest thing

 

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Hey everyone. Just got home from the hospital. Everything is ok, but they wanted to monitor me for premature labor. Which I'm not having thank god.

My whole update is in my journal if you want to read. https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnan...-blooming-after-4-losses-46.html#post17047973

I'm exhausted. Will catch up tomorrow. xoxo

 

[LucyJ]

Happy V day glad all went well