Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[Allie84]

LOL Nato. Hilarious pic of Tubs (whomever he is). Eloise is most definitely a beautiful baby and looks nothing like him.

I have a feeling stopping sugar would be as good for me as it's been for you. Like you, I have eaten some sort of sugar every single day as long as I can remember. I was raised on junk food, as well (my parents always gave me full sugar pop, processed meals, etc). I can see where eating 'clean' would be good for me. Also, since I'm not a huge meat fan (though not veggie like you...I eat poultry), or a fried food fan, I am aware nearly all of my extra calories come from sweets. When I was on my gestational diabtes diet, I didn't gain much weight in my 3rd tri at all. But without a motivator like a baby in my bellly, it's hard. You've inspired me, though! I'm going to try it!!! I have a chocoate bar on my table right now, though. I will finish that first (hahaha). No, but I seriously want to try).

Alistiar has now napped for 3 hours! Still sleeping. That's probably from being up from 2-4.

 

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Hopefully this works....

 

[heart tree]

Hi girls. Haven't had a chance to catch up. I spent all night in the hospital monitoring very frequent contractions. Luckily it wasn't labor and the baby is fine. But it was an incredibly traumatic experience for me. I am now spotting red blood from the exams and can barely walk. I wrote the story in my journal here https://babyandbump.momtastic.com/p...-blooming-after-4-losses-96.html#post18845219

It's long. Don't feel obligated to read it all. I just wanted to let you know what's happening.

 

[NatoPMT]

Clever girl!

I showed Eloise, and she launched forwards and fell flat on her face. She can face plant forwards and backwards. And she crabs around a bit, but Penny has another victory to her name.

Allie, try it for a week - maybe 10 days, i cant remember how long it took to break the habit but i havent eaten any sugar in 2 months now. I double dares ya. I always had wholewheat pasta and brown rice, its just the intravenous biscuits that i had to try really hard to stop

i was going to write 'mm chocolate hobnobs' but i dont even think they are nice now.

do you have much to lose? hmm, just googled sugar and pcos and the google headlines say there's a definite link. I know it affected my fertility cos of my inflammation and killer cells. Id be interested to see if my killer cells have improved but it might not be that simple.

do it do it do it

 

[NatoPMT]

oh crap, sorry to hear that hearty, will go and read now - stay strong sweetie.

 

[hoping:)]

I just lost a massive post

hearty- I'm sorry you went through such a scare... I'm off to look at your journal.


i'll try to redo my post later

 

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Allie- I think you should try out Nato’s suggestion as well… It wouldn’t hurt. Do you incorporate a good exercise routine along with your healthy eating changes? I know it is tough when you are so busy and want to spend all of your extra time with Alistair… I’m the same way. The only way I fit in exercise these days is if I make it bonding time for me and Penny. I try to take her on walks and do baby exercises. An 18 lb baby is a good weight. I do squats, sit ups, bench press etc… and use her as my weight. She loves it! I hope you can get to a comfortable weight before your reunion. I’ve seen your FB pics and you look beautiful but I know the way I look and the way I feel are two different things. We all know what weight we feel our best at. Use your reunion as motivation to get back in shape. You have about a month to go… YOU CAN DO IT!

I didn’t do anything new to make her sleep longer she just did it on her own. She slept through the night from about 2-4 months and then 4-7 months she was waking once during the night. I’m guessing it was the sleep regression we have all heard so much about! I hope Alistair feels better after his long nap… he must have been teething because when you describe him he always sounds like a happy calm baby.

Nato- you are absolutely correct about them being individuals… she will get there in her own time. What really seems to help Penny is having exposure to other babies. A couple times a week she hangs out with some older babies. Does Eloise have any older baby who can show her the ropes and demonstrate how to crawl, pull themselves up etc…? One of the areas that Penny is lacking is in the tooth department. She will be 8 months and not a tooth in sight! She may be the only baby with dentures if she doesn’t start sprouting them soon. The no teeth thing makes being adventurous with food a little more difficult. I still give her finger foods but only if they are soft. She can hold the food but still prefers mommy and daddy to hold it while she eats and is even the same with her bottle.

Hearty- I’m off to look at your journal. I’m so sorry you had such a scare.

Sorry the link doesn't work... you can ck out the video on FB

 

[NatoPMT]

I agree with hoping Allie that you look fantastic, but i know feeling and looking arent always the same.

Im doing exercises on the floor with eloise, leg lifts, the plank and stuff, and my arms are too weak to do proper press ups so i do them against the kitchen work surfaces.

Thanks for the tips....I go to 2 stay and plays a week and 3 sing a long sessions which she LOVES, she is SO into music its hilarious - we do something every day but eloise has terrible separation anxiety and stranger fear at the mo, when another baby gets close to her she starts crying and puts her arms out to me to hold her. she sits very happily as long as i sit with her, but if i get up to go to the loo she gets really upset. my little baby.

I didnt walk till i was 13 months, i was quite slow but mad on books and reading and eloise is the same i think - she's just not bothered about the physical stuff, she wants to be on my knee reading or singing with me

 

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When you exercise with your baby it doesn't feel like work

Eloise is so sweet. Penny has separtion anxiety at times but I don't mind because I like the extra cuddles. She does pretty well with new people but that is just because she has to since Tim and I both have to work She is with our friend a couple hours a day while I am working but its good so she can interact with other people.

Penny loves books too! Its so cute to see their little faces light up. She always has to "turn" (more like pulling) the pages though so a few of my books are torn She also loves anything electronic and will dive head first if she sees an ipad or iphone I try to play music that last hour before she goes to bed so we can dance and i'll sing to her (but not very good). I love that they are so curious at this stage. She thinks everything belongs to her and will immediately snatch it out of your hand and just smile at you

Tim was a late walker as well and knew how to turn on the stereo before he walked... he was 14 months old! I walked just before my 1st birthday so we will see who Penny takes after.

 

[Jaymes]

Hoping - hmmm, I'd love to tell you who we manufacture, but that is proprietary information. :sadface:

Hearty - I'm so sorry about your rough night! I'll read in a minute.

NATO/Hoping - My DS didn't walk until he was 18 months old! I was so anxious for him to do everything, now I get nostalgic.

Lucy - gorgeous!

NATO way to go you! I may try to do that with the kiddos as our whole fam is a bit overweight... Right now we're dairy free to see if that helps with the extreme excema. Next week I'm cutting wheat and from there probably eggs or some other allergen. I bought that book you suggested.

Rounders. I think anxiety for #2 is the hardest! It'll be ok!

 

[vickyd]

hey ladies!

Sorry ive been AWOL for a while, was having a real hard time this year with the anniversary of Electra's death. I also was quite upset with someone who i thought was a good friend who made some really nasty comments on my FB status that day. Anyway, im doing better now and have decided to not bother with him anymore.

Round a little anxiety is to be expected and the fact that youre a disco girl means you're allowed alot of anxiety lol! You'll have your hands full soon enough and things will just slide into place!

Luce you skinny minny! I hate you! You look fab in that dress!

Nato crack isnt fattening so no reason to quit i say hahaha!!! Good job on the diet girl! Im not that into sugar, i could happily go for months without any to be honest. My problem is cheese mainly. I will eat half a kilo of cheese easily in one go. I can skip dinner and happily munch on cheese and crackers for weeks. I have cheese on everything; even in lentil soup.

Hoping Hero cut her first tooth around 9-10 months lol! She still only has 4! She is the only kid in her play group with so little teeth. Apparently if you give them non-pureed food early on the gums get stimulated and teeth pop put sooner. I have such choking fears that i still practically mash up all her food. Just last week i gave her her first rush to graw at but almost had a heart attack watching her.

Allie my reunion was 3 months after i lost Electra. I was fat and 70% of the people there knew i was pregnant so i had to explain every 5 minutes why i wasnt at home with my baby. Worst reunion in history...

Hearty major hugs, wrote in your journal...

 

[Allie84]

Hearty, I'm so sorry! I'm off to read your journal in a bit. Just for the record I was born at 32 weeks-ish and I was healthy, just tiny.

Vicky, I'm sure the anniversary is tough. I'm so sorry about your "friend" as well. I wish I could go for months without sugar.

Hoping, thanks. Believe it or not Alistair slept 11 hours last night! First time EVER! He must have been reading my posts. His angelcare alarm went off three times though so I didn't get the full night's sleep myself. He was sleeping at the top of the crib and I eventually turned it off.

Eloise and Penny are both adorable and gifted little girls. I think our Disco babies are something special. I'm always comparing Alistair to Will, my friend's baby who is 9 days older. They have totally different skill sets...I babysit Will once a week and I get to compare them lol. Sometimes Will does something Alistair can't and I get nervous but then I see that Alistair is more advanced socially, etc.

Allie, try it for a week - maybe 10 days, i cant remember how long it took to break the habit but i havent eaten any sugar in 2 months now. I double dares ya. I always had wholewheat pasta and brown rice, its just the intravenous biscuits that i had to try really hard to stop

do you have much to lose? hmm, just googled sugar and pcos and the google headlines say there's a definite link. I know it affected my fertility cos of my inflammation and killer cells. Id be interested to see if my killer cells have improved but it might not be that simple.

do it do it do it

By the numbers, I am technically 25 lbs, or 2 stone, overweight. I am 5 lbs from being classified as 'obese'. I am 10 lbs more than pre pregrancy weight and 15 lbs more than my lowest post pregnancy weight...which seems ridiculous. I'm gaining my baby weight back as flab. Operation zero sugar started this morning. I've had pizza so far for breakfast which is probably not much better. We'll see how this goes. Do you do artificially sweetened drinks?

 

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Vicky I'm sorry this anniversary is rough on you and I can't believe your "friend" made some nasty comments on such a hard day for you.

Thanks for the reassurance on the teeth issue.

Allie- it is a good idea to stay away from all artificial sweeteners... you could try stevia, agava nectar (low on the glycemic index), or just flavor your water with fruit. One of my favorite drinks is soda water and fresh lime Instead of pizza try things like oatmeal/yogurt with fruit/nuts... they are super easy to prepare when you are busy.

 

[Jaymes]

Oh! I love to put a couple drops of vanilla in my water! So yummy, it reminds me of cookies without the calories!

 

[NatoPMT]

Hi Bumperoos.

Vic... remembering Electra

I did notice she was born on my birthday which made me feel a connection to her, my nephew who was born sleeping was due on my birthday

Im really sorry you got some comments, someone who is a good friend empathises, even if they dont understand. Its your upset that matters, not whatever they have to say about that or anything else while you are feeling her loss so obviously.

haha at gummy Hero. Im totally with you on the choking. Eloise had her first proper choke on Tuesday and i nearly crapped myself. Bloody strawberry.

mm cheese. mm crack.

Hoping: Eloise chews all books, i rarely get to finish one before at least 2 corners are soggy. I love that everything is mine thing. Does Penny now complain or cry when you take your phone off her? My friends phone broke from spit so i don't let her have mine now.

Allie is right, our disco babies are the best babies in the world. They are at the top of the Baby League Table

Jaymes - thanks! how are you finding the book? Its pretty hardcore to follow all of the advice she gives but i really do think she has the right idea. I think milk is the main eczema allergen but everyone is different and you have to try everything before youre sure

Allie, that monitor sounds like a nightmare, but way to go Alistair! On the milestones, the bottom line is that all our babies are ridiculously happy giggly babies, and thats worth 100 early walkings. All the other babies at my singalong groups just sit there, and eloise squeals and jumps up and down, none of the others do.

How is the no sugar going? I had 24 pounds to lose in total too, lost 7 gradually trying REALLY hard over 4 months, but the next 8 fell off in 3 weeks when i stopped the sugar. Ive plateaued a bit now, but still at total loss of 18 or 19 pounds without it coming back - need to up the sit ups. You should lose some quickly just cutting out sugar as your insulin will stop spiking and laying fat around the waist.

Dont sweeten your drinks. For one, artificial sweeteners are implicated in all sorts, but for your mission, by sweetening you would still be maintaining your sweet tooth and the cravings will just remain and make giving up sugar much much harder. I have quit even fruit juice, but am still eating lots of whole fruit. Anything that triggers your sweet reward reaction will keep the cravings there - i only drink water and green tea. There was a telly programme on this week called The Men Who Made Us Fat and they said that the obesity epidemic in the US and then the UK is directly correlated to the development of soda marketing - not necessarily casual, but its the biggest sole intake of calories per person in the US. Sweet drinks can fuck your diet right up.

 

[NatoPMT]

Happy 33 weeks to Hearty!!! Another week safe for your baby bun

 

[Allie84]

Thanks Nato. Please keep up the encouragement and facts.....knowing how bad sugar is helps me more than the motivation to look good, in some ways. The no sugar is not happening, though. I honestly am addicted. I never knew until I tried to stop! I need to figure out how to get past the withdrawal or something. So far all I've managed to do is get really hungry and give in to the sugar cravings. I'm learning a lot about my diet which I *thought* was relatively healthy but I realize I eat sooo many empty calories and get hungry again an hour. I'm snacking all day and I don't have the right snacks at home. I will admit I just ate a cookie. I need to go shopping in preparation for this sugar cessation so I have something to replace it with! Because I seriously want to stop sugar, darn it.

Re: choking....it sounds like all babies will choke at some point? I won't even give Alistair puffs yet I'm so cautous. And I'm ashamed to say I don't know what to do! I took infant and child CPR while I being a nursery worker but I'm drawing a blank. Is it turn them upside down and slap them on the back after trying to fish it out? No baby heimlich?

 

[NatoPMT]

i youtubed it, didnt watch this actual link but theres one here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUSnEpheYkY

have you googled sugar and pcos? I only read the headlines but not sure if sugar makes pcos worse, or women with pcos crave sugar, its one or the other - but either way its something that would really benefit you

its hard to have healthy snacks with a baby, but something i find easy to make while weezy is in her jumperoo is a wholemeal pitta toasted, opened like a pocket, spread with hummous and stuffed with either chopped white cabbage which is MUCH nicer uncooked, or rocket or raw spinach. Or i have a poached egg on wholemeal toast (or boiled egg with wholemeal soldiers). I have poachpods which make poaching eggs well easy

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also have the oatmeal with sultanas, nutmeg and cinnamon which keeps me full for about 3 hours

hunger isnt just for calories, hunger can also be for vitamins and minerals, if you eat just a sugar snack obviously you get an insulin spike and crash, but you can also be more hungry if you arent getting everything you need. I would go for the things that are nutrient dense, like raw spinach and hummous. I also have lentil salad with falafel and spinach (shop bought, oven baked in 10 mins)

or make extra for dinner and have the rest the next day for lunch.

i get my food online delivered free so i dont run out of stuff

you can do it!!!

 

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Nato- Penny doesnt usually cry when we take things from her... she just goes onto the nect thing. Now she will look for what we took for a few seconds and then turns her attention else where.

Great suggestions to Alley! The key is to eat quality foods over quantity. Whole foods are best because all of those ready to eat meals have so many preservatives and hidden things like high sodium. Make sure you are drinking at least 2 liters/ 8 8oz glasses of whater. Thirst can often be mistaken as hunger

I hope everyone has a great weekend!

 

[LucyJ]

Thanks for all the lovely comments girls.

Vicky Im so sorry that your friend has caused so much upset at a difficult time. to you thinking of you and remembering Electra

Hoping Benjamin cut his first tooth at 9 months and now has 4 bless him.

Nato dont worry about what Elosie is doing it sounds like you are doing lots with her taking her out going to groups she will do things when shes ready and it sounds like shes doing great. I definitely agree with Allie our disco babies are special happy little ones.

I feel bad now after reading about the sugar as Ive been eating my way through a bag of m&ms and was about to eat a muffin but Im not going to now. Have had a crappy night. I love hummous.

Edit: about the choking I was really worried about it and Benjamin used to choke a lot it was really scary the first few times but when it happened I coped and was calm which surprised me and all was ok I was a mess after! I have a reminder on my fridge about cpr and choking. You shouldnt fish anything out unless you can see it and can easily hook it out with your little finger (thats what we were told at a session I went to after Benjamin was born) with Benjamins Ive always layed him on his front across my arm and angled him head down a quick smack to his back is normally enough to clear whatever is causing the problem. It has amazed me how effective he is at clearing things out when they get stuck. Hes coping much better with lumpier food and is getting better at finger food although I dont give him as much as maybe I should. Cooked carrots and broccoli is a good thing to start with and bagels he loves having a bit of bagel to munch on.