Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[VGibs]

1 baby, 1 heartbeat, measuring spot on for 7w 3d

 

[VGibs]

Phew, good news Lucy! I wasn't allowed anyone in with me so it would be sweet to have Ben in with you.

 

[LucyJ]

Great news V so happy with you It was lovely I had Steve with me as well dont think I could get through scans without my boys.

 

[Sparkly]

That's amazing news from you 2 ladies I'm so happy for you both xxx

 

[msarkozi]

yah!! great news girls on your scans

I cried this morning I got to daycare, and Kash knew something was up and wouldn't stop cuddling me at all. I got him over to play, but he wouldn't leave me, and would keep putting his face by mine and hugging me. I had some tears at that point. But when I was leaving, he came running after me crying mom! I turned to see it and it broke my heart and I started crying and had to leave. I can't wait to hold him again on Wednesday!

 

[vickyd]

Great news V!!

Mel Hero never cries when i go haha!!! I guess she got used to it as a baby seeing as i went back to work when she was 3 months.

Sugar saw your facebook update, how is she doing now?

 

[pregoinnorge]

Congrats Lucy and vgibs!! Great news

Sorry Mel- it's heartbreaking isn't it? If its any help he probably got over it pretty fast. When I first dropped off E at daycare she didn't seem to care whether or not I left but now it's hit or miss. Usually they can distract her while I sneak away. Sometimes though she runs to the big window facing the parking lot and she looks so sad as I walk/drive away. It can still make me tear up some days...

 

[hoping:)]

Nato- so cute you have a little weirdo too! Their personalities are definitely in full bloom now. Penny is a huge fan of music too and will automatically start busting out her sweet moves which usually include waiving her hands, stomping her feet and a little booty shaking… gangster style of course.

Good luck with this cycle! I wouldn’t worry about having a few tasty beverages at your reunion. At that stage it won’t hurt. Amanda is right. The baby will be getting nourishment from the yolk sac at this stage I believe. Opening a child center sounds like an awesome idea. You can take Eloise with your to work!

Amanda- No sleep is tough. I think I’ve already told you when Penny did officially start sleeping through the night (10 months) and it did involve a little CIO but it worked in about 2 days and she has been STTN ever since. We haven’t had to do CIO except for that 2 day period and it wasn’t bad at all. Before that moving her into her own room worked wonders. She still woke in the middle of the night but only once or twice. Now, if she does have the odd bad night she comes into our bed for extra cuddles and sleeps with us until morning.

Nato is right, CIO isn’t for everyone. You know your baby so do what you are comfortable with. We know our baby’s different cries and are led by that. When we started cio we did 5 min increments and increased to what we were comfortable with. I would go into her room to soothe her by stoking her back or just hold her close to me and then lay her back down. Penny is awesome at self soothing now and seems to enjoy bedtime and nap time. After her routine we sing a bed time song and give kisses and cuddles. She rubs her little eyes and literally jumps out of my arms into her crib, pulls up her blankie, rolls over and falls asleep within a minute. It makes life so much easier. Penny sleeps so much better alone. If she sleeps with us she wakes a few times a night to stick her little fingers in our nose, pull hair, jump on the bed and usually ends up sitting on Tim’s head.

I do still love when on the rare occasion she falls asleep on me. I also don’t think you can spoil a baby. Penny gets praised everyday and told she is loved. We smother her in kisses and applaud her for all her accomplishments big or small.

When we started solids we introduced breakfast first and then the next week solids at dinner time. Now we try to do 3 small meals a day with 2 snacks. Sometimes she is a great eater and others she protests and wants only yogurt or applesauce. We didn’t start feeding her meat until she was a year old. For the most part I made all of her food and had fun experimenting with the different flavors. It got much easier when she could just eat what we eat. Penny wasn’t a huge fan of solids so we went to soft finger foods within the 1st month.

Sugar- that would terrify me as well! I’m glad she is ok and it will clear up on its own. When Penny is ill I usually bring her to bed with us too.

Lucy- Yay for a great scan. It is so awesome Ben gets to share the exciting scan days with you. I get eczema too but not as bad as before I had Penny. Colorado is so dry and I usually have a flare up during the winter months. It is no fun… the itching drives you insane. Don’t worry too much about not having the healthiest diet right now. Plenty of women are plagued with MS in early pregnancy. With Penny I could only keep down oranges… definitely does not seem enough to sustain a pregnant person but I made it through.

Mel- Sorry baby didn’t want to show off the goods. Waiting a whole month does sound like torture especially if you are impatient like I am. It sounds like Kash had a wonderful party. I wanted to do something like the pizza idea for Penny but she was still too little... maybe next birthday Do we get to see pictures? I’m glad you had a happy little birthday boy.

Awww… I hope your time away goes fast! He is such a sweet little guy.

Round- Maddy and Bryce definitely prove that all babies are different. What worked for one didn’t for the other. I hope you guys find what works for him soon. You are super mom with raising 2! How is Maddy doing these days? Is everyone feeling better?

Gibs- wonderful news!!! Now you can breath a little easier.

I'm loving all of these positive scan update I also enjoyed reading everyone's different parenting style. I guess all it comes down to is that we have happy and healthy toddlers/babies

AFM- Just got back from a whirl wind trip to New Mexico. We almost didnt make it home due to the bad weather and a few times thought we would have to spend the night in our car during the blizzard. Every highway or interstate we tried to take was closed so we did a lot of back tracking. Some how we made it home on back roads Penny was at least safely snuggled in with her grandma and grandpa.

 

[msarkozi]

Thanks girls. I am sure he got over it really quickly too, and it's just me hurting still I think it scares me that what if something happens to me, then that's the last time I would see him.......I just need to focus that I will be home really soon and picking him up from daycare on Wednesday and we will have tons of snuggles together!

I do have some birthday pictures, but I completely forgot to post them on fb last night (ooops!). I am not sure if I have you on there or not, but it's [email protected] that I use for facebook and it's Melissa Sarkozi. I will make sure I get them added Wednesday night after his bedtime.

 

[heart tree]

Such wonderful news for Lucy and Virginia!!! I'm so happy for you both!

Sugar, I haven't looked on FB. Is Charlotte ok?

Round, Delilah and Bryce must be in cahoots with each other. Last night we gave her a big bottle of formula before bed. She slept from 7-11. Then screamed at 11. I thought she was hungry, so I fed her and put her back down. Then she was back up at 12:30. Tim settled her. Then back up at 1:30! I fed her and changed her diaper. It was very full. We usually don't change her unless she has a poop, but now I wonder if she was uncomfortable. She slept until 6am after that, nursed and then back up at 8am. It wasn't her best night, but at least I got sleep on the back end of the night.

She used to sleep through. I don't know if it is a weight thing. She's been constipated from solids, so it could be that. She's most likely teething too. I just don't know.

I tried doing solids right after milk and she wasn't interested. I think she was full. So far she's had pears, apples, bananas, sweet potato, peas, rice cereal, avocado, oatmeal and prunes. I'm making all of her food. She really loves solids, but I also know she should still get most of her meals from milk. Sometimes I still worry that my supply isn't enough. She's gaining weight though. She's so active that I think she burns a lot of calories in the day.

Oh well, I'll survive. I know things change quickly.

Thanks again for all the advice!

 

[heart tree]

Oh Mel, I would be so sad to see that too. It's only a matter of time before I have to go through that too. It's going to be amazing to hug him again! I can't believe he's 2 already!!!

 

[Sassy_TTC]

Woo hoo great news all around, soooo happy for you girls.xx

 

[Allie84]

Congratulations Lucy and Gibs!!! I'm so very happy and excited for you both.

I'm sorry to those of you who hare having sleep and feeding issues. I guess we've been very lucky with Alistair. I'm out of advice! Do you have very set bedtime routings so Delilah and Bryce know it's bedtime? Alistair likes his bedtime routine and it helps him realize it's bedtime. He now says 'nigh nigh' and will start walking to his room when it's time! Do you do infant massage? We did infant massage with Johnson's lavender bedtime baby lotion and bath and I don't know if it helped or not but the sent is very calming. The noise machine we use is very loud and it's of the ocean waves. He's been hearing it since day one. Are they in warm jammies? Alistair sleeps better in warm pajamas.

I'm jealous of those of who whose babies still sleep on you or with you. Unless he's sick, Alistair just jumps on the bed.

Someone at door, gotta run

 

[Sugarlove2]

Lucy and Vgibs what fab news about your scans. Very pleased for you. Gibs, get that ticker up now!

Mel, sorry baba didn't cooperate. Hope he/she gives you a good look in a month. That's tough having to leave Kash for the first time. I've not left Charlotte overnight either, but she did cry when I dropped her off at nursery the other week, which was heart wrenching. Hope it goes fast for you. I'm sure he settled quickly.

Hearty, when I started weaning, I used to give Charlotte a little bit of puree when she was quite hungry. I think I did it before a bottle. Started off with just 1 meal and then worked up to all 3. She was always pretty good with purees, it's lumpy foods she hates! Last night's sleep sounds very tiring. Hope you get a better night tonight.

Nato, loving the idea of the children's centre. Wish I lived near you, then I could come and work for you instead of my crappy job.

Hoping, driving though a blizzard sounds terrifying. I get scared driving through a rain shower!

Afm had another terrible night with Charlotte. Boiling hot, shaking and laboured breathing again. Took her to docs, who doesn't think it's broncholitis, but some sort of upper chest virus. He thinks all of the symptoms are happening when her temperature rises, so got to wake her up to give calpol though the night to keep temp very low. Had to stay off work today. I'm absolutely whacked.

 

[pregoinnorge]

I hope Charlotte gets better soon! It's just so scary when they get sick and the lack of sleep doesn't help either!

 

[pregoinnorge]

What kind of children's center are you thinking of, Nato? I've always dreamed of starting some kind of science center with summer camps and weekend camps, after school programs, etc. I think there is a market here but I just don't know how. I really want o change careers but scared to give up the security

 

[NatoPMT]

Congrats on the healthy scans...wonderful news!!!

Rounders: let's hope that boy of yours puts some weight on with all the food he's interested in. It's such a slow process - but the sleepless babies are certainly behaving as expected. I was defo the same with co sleeping for a while - it was waking me up more than her but i got used to it and it takes a headbutt to wake me now. Which isnt infrequent.

Mel: that sounds totally traumatic! Poor Kash. Really upsets me hearing things like that, so I hate to think how you felt and how he felt. That said, I bet he was having a great time within minutes.

Hearty, I have no idea, but the only thing I do know is that things do change and it does get better and she's growing every day and this wont last forever. I saw the mummy who got the sleep trainer in today and her baby is now 13 months and sleeping through (the sleep training didnt work for them but a bit of time has) - he was the worst ever sleeper actually ever.

Sugar - how are you feeling? Sorry to hear about Charlotte being poorly, how horrible and how scary. My sister is a nurse and she told me to give calpol, then 2 hours later infant nurofen, then 2 hours later more calpol as they can be taken alongside each other, but i think the less meds you can get her through the night on, the better. If its bad it might be worth remembering. Hope shes better very soon

Amy - I'm thinking of an annual membership club for children under 7 or 8, less specific than your idea (which is fab!!!) but i want to have a baby room, a cafe, a garden, fantasy type play rooms (pirates, jungle etc), cinema room, role play room and a working kitchen - cookery lessons, gardening, dance classes that sort of thing. Im trying to cost it out at the moment but i need a large space and a business mortgage, my ideas for the play areas are a bit excessive at the moment, they will cost a lot of money so will have to scale it back.


Any ideas very very welcome from everyone, what do you want to see in a babies / children's space?

 

[Sugarlove2]

Feeling knackered Nato. Had no kip in 3 days. I fully empathize with those who have babies who don't STTN. Thanks for the tips, I've been doing that with the meds. I defo need to give her them, as the Doc thinks that's whats causing the shaking and laboured breathing. She was boiling when I heard her whimpering last night, as I didn't wake her to give her the calpol. Poor little sausage!

Sounds like you've got some fab ideas for your business plan. Charlotte loves soft play and messy play. They are probably her 2 favourite things. She also loves anything to do with music.

 

[Allie84]

Oh, poor Charlotte! I hope she feels better soon. And poor you as well.

Mel, I'm so sorry, that sounds awful! It will be hard leaving them for the first night, that's for sure. I have plans to have a one night girly date with my BFF when we're in Edinburgh next month and that will be my only time away from Alistair. I'm a bit nervous but a bit excited too. I wonder how I'll do!!! You'll have to give me tips. But knowing how much Kash loves daycare, I'm sure he will be absolutely fine the next few days. I can't wait to know whether you're team blue or pink. Bummer about the mean sonographer as well.

Amber, you poor thing!! Driving in a blizzard, ugh, it is the worst. Been there done that. So scary and knowing people die after getting stranded makes it worse. I would have slept in the first hotel I saw! Glad you are safe and sound, though.

Nato, that's an amazing idea. At first I thought you meant childcare center. That used to be my dream, for Alex and I to own one, and I had spoken with a few owners of the ones I'd worked for. We had thought of franchising a Goddard School, but now that I have a kid the level of responsibility I feel is too great or would be too great! But a center like you're describing, with classes, or areas where the children are with their parents, sounds perfect! In fact I was just talking to my home nurse (the baby nurse who visits monthly through my county) about how there is a lack of play centers like that for young children, here for sure. Is there anything like it already in London? I love all of your ideas.

 

[LucyJ]

Amanda Benjamin sounds very similar to Delilah he was so little and always needed to put weight on I think thats why he fed so often his weight didnt really stabablize untill he was on solids. I found the weening process really difficult not because he was difficult i fact he was really good but because I was so worried all the time worried henwouldnt eat, worried he end up as an 18 yr old still eating baby porridge abd on pureed feed, worried he wouldnt be ablemto cope with lumps or finger food and so many more things. The advice here I find is really confusing and the professionals you talk to seem to contradict themselves. I was told he was having to many bf which I need to stop and up his solids I didnt agree with this as felt he still needed them so carried on. I started with one meal a day then built up to 3 Id give him a bf in the morning then hed have breakfast (baby rice/porridge) at about 10am bf when he needed them, lunch about 1/2ish usally pureed veg as he got older I introduced meat, cheese and bread but I did it slowly and delayed a little to what his age would of been if he hadnt been a little early I dont know if that was right but felt his little tummy needed more time to developed. I did have a problem with his eating about 8/9 months when he wouldnt eat anything I made then we went home for easter and ate every meal my mum had made blitz down of course I realised the food Id been making was to bland for him he liked something with flavour from then he ate much better. The advice my mum gave was give enough food so theres a little left in his bowl so you know he has had enough we he started cleaning a bowl I knew he needed a little bit more. What I would say is try not to stress or worry about it I know its hard as I was a mess but I have a little boy who eats well, can cope with lumps (it was a slow process but we got there) and is know started to use big boy cutlery.

Nato that sounds fantastic as you know I plan to set myself up as a childminder but my dad apparatently has big ideas which end up with seeting up my own nursery. Benjamin loves music, books and we went to a group called little explorers which was every day objects in basket that they could explore he loves it each week all the objects has a theme. Big scale painting always fun if you had an outside area.

Mel you poor thing that sounds awful I bet he'll have the biggest cuddles for you when you are back.

Sugar poor Charlotte how scary for you hope she feels better very soon.

I had one of the most traumatic nights ever with Benjamin last night hed been good as gold all day cope with car journey had a great time playing ate all his food then came to bed time all went ok untill I took him upstairs he cried and cried and cried Ive never heard him so distraught went to get him Between the tears he was going cuddle cuddle so I curled up in my bed with him to cuddle him he was still cryinn and kept saying dada dada the wriggled himself off the bed took my finger to lead me out of the room and to the top of the stairs, he then asked to go down so we downstairs he straight away went to living room climbed onto the sofa pulled the curtains to look outside and said dada dada. So I picked him up explained again that daddy was at home wed see him fri he the wiggled down still crying ran into the hall and wouldnt leave. I had to sit with hi. Cuddling him if I tried to take him into another room he screamed it was awful he was obviously waiting in the hall for daddy to come through the front door I ended up in tears he was in tears my poor mum didnt know what to do. He clamed down a bit when he saw my dad but not for long. We did skype with steve which calmed benjamin down but aftre he went loopy sudden burst of energy but he wouldnt go to bed I tried everything staying with him, leaving him, curling up in bec with him nothing worked he wasnt uset anymore but wouldnt sleep so we ended up downstairs till 11pm then took him back up put him in his cot he cried again calling me calling steve it was heartbraking no way was he going to settle so went to get him I have two single beds in my roo. They used to be bunk beds but we've put them as single beds next to each other so rolled one of the single duvets up to plug the gap betweent them put a pillow in between then curled up with him he eventually fell asleep at 11:15pm with his head on the rolled up duvet and the rest of him in my bed I curled up next to him tried to sleep he ended up moving over to the empty single bed and sleeping there all night I did dear try and move him into his cot for fear of waking him. He woke up at 6:15am crawled over to me then curled uo went back to sleep as did I untill 9am. I knew hed miss steve but was not expecting that reaction just before he finally fell asleep he said where dada? Just praying tonight is better and that he'll go in his travel cot.