F.A.I.T.H. (Forsaking all, I trust Him)

[somedaymama]

praying for Carla!

 

[Terangela]

Okay, so the only thing holding us up with the surrogacy thing is the whole embryo situation. We believe that the life begins at conception therefor, any embryos that would be "discarded" because they arn't "good enough" is simply wrong to us. My question is, since the intended parents (and their doctor) decide how many embryos to create and they end up throwing them away, is that wrong of us to go through with the surrogacy? Or since it up to the IPs, than that would be on them (in God's eyes) and not on us? I dont think retrieving x amount of eggs is wrong (because an egg is not a human). The thing i am having a hard time with is fertilizing too many eggs and not implanting all them then discarding them (any fertilized egg is human-to us). A life is a life, no matter how good a "quality" it is. As for freezing them thats a different story (which I am still on the fence about, but thats not my choice). We just want to make sure everything is good in God's eyes

"Good" would be viable embryos, and discard ones are ones that have stopped developing so basically it is a dead embryo. Usually it takes a few implants to get one to stick, so they use the frozen embryos for those added cycles. You could also request that if you have a couple that the couple donate the unused embryos. You can talk to the Dr about what they consider a good or viable embryo and what they would discard. From that you could make your choice. I know I would have done IVF for myself if it came to it. I knew the Dr that would have done it and he is a Christian, God loving and fearing man. I know he would have made every effort to do things ethically and knowing he would be judged if he did things wrong. You really should talk to a fertility specialist that is in your area about it. They would gladly let you know what to expect.

 

[Terangela]

Praying for Carla.

 

[mrskcbrown]

Somedaymama's water broke this morning! Yay! Pray for a safe, healthy delivery for her

 

[Guppy051708]

Yay! How exciting!!!

 

[cheerios]

Hey Guppy - Wow. You must be the first lady I know who's going to be a surrogate!!! That means you're going to go through the process of labour and delivery too? **sorry if I sound dumb". Its amazing. Wow. And your little boy looks wayyyy adorable! How's he? Any new developments?

 

[cheerios]

Hi ladies!
Just wanted to pop by to say HI! Sorry that I haven't been coming to this thread often. I think its a mixture of the fact that most of you are already pregnant (and I don't really feel like I fit here anymore) and that I usually write in my own journal.

Just want to see how you all are! We're already in the last month of 2010 and I'll be celebrating my 28th birthday this week!!!! (16.12) Time really REALLY flies! Esp. when you're TTCing - and not getting PG.

Anyway, just hoping that you ladies are enjoying your Advent season and not getting too stressed with your Christmas shopping!

BTW, Someday has given birth! I just saw on her FB account, but she hasn't posted any photos of her newborn yet. She did mention it was a smooth delivery though!!! YAY!

 

[Dahlia]

Hi Cheerios - I left this group awhile ago b/c nearly everyone is preggo and it makes me sad (for me, not for them)...you wanna start a new ttc-faith-based group? I'd be so willing to join it! Haven't checked this thread in months and just did and saw your post...so thought I'd say something!

 

[Dahlia]

actually, maybe a LTTTC-faith-based-group would be more like it as far as I'm concerned ...I don't necessarily like to hear pregnancy announcements from people trying for a few months...it's so hard to deal with. I'm sure you understand. anyway, I still read your journal and I know your day will come!!!

 

[Terangela]

Just thought I would start a thread on the pregnancy board... I know what it is like to go to a TTC board and all you read about is pregnancy and pregnancy announcements, followed by birth announcements, followed by all that is new with their babies. So maybe some of us can migrate over to the pregnancy thread? It isn't fair to make others read about something they want so badly and are trying to achieve. Just a thought.

https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-club/486239-f-t-h-forsaking-all-trust-him.html#post8214630

 

[mrskcbrown]

Just thought I would start a thread on the pregnancy board... I know what it is like to go to a TTC board and all you read about is pregnancy and pregnancy announcements, followed by birth announcements, followed by all that is new with their babies. So maybe some of us can migrate over to the pregnancy thread? It isn't fair to make others read about something they want so badly and are trying to achieve. Just a thought.

https://www.babyandbump.com/pregnancy-club/486239-f-t-h-forsaking-all-trust-him.html#post8214630

Im with you but I still like the TTC Faith thread too because I come here to give encouragement to others still waiting. Just because we have our BFPS does not mean that we did not have a LONG road to hoe! Ive been wanting another baby since my daughter was 2. She will be 10 next week! So I waited a long time with A LOT of heartaches and NOT knowing I had PCOS before I was blessed with this baby!

I will join you over there as well!

 

[cheerios]

Hey dear ladies!
I'm sorry, didn't mean to rock the boat. And I do agree that quite a number of the pregnant ladies here have tried for a long time before getting PG AND that is such an encouragement!!!!

I mean, when I first started quite a number of the pregnant ladies now were not pregnant yet. Like someday, willbe, kcbrown,... just to name a few. And now, they are all pregnant.

I guess it just meant that non-preggy ladies like myself had less of a common ground with the preggy ladies. Do you know what I mean?

I think from among the ladies who I knew when I first started reading this thread, there's only Ready and I who are not pregnant? FutureMommie isn't either, but she came by the thread later right?

I really don't know if we should start another LTTC-F.A.I.T.H thread.

What do the rest of you non-pregnant ladies on this thread think???

 

[Deb111]

I think from among the ladies who I knew when I first started reading this thread, there's only ready and I who are not pregnant? FutureMommie isn't either, but she came by the thread later right?

Nor me

I don't think anyone feels you've rocked the boat hun and it can be really hard.

Personally, although it can be hard, I usually find it can help to have the support of those who have been there and are now pregnant. It's nice to hear some success stories, but I guess pregnancy journals are the place for discussing the finer details of pregnancy, which I think people pretty much do on here anyway x

 

[willbamom1day]

I too enjoy checking in on this thread and praying for you all as I too had a long road to get my bfp - my hubby and I had been married 7 years before getting a bfp and we battled no/low sperm count and a failed adoption and it was you girls who helped me stay sane in this all. I know what it is like to want it so bad and not have it and thats why I try not to share to much pregnancy stuff with this group.

I actualy joined BNB 2 years ago this month I am all for moving on if that is what is wanted but that will not change my feelings for you all or my prayers of blessings for each of you

 

[Guppy051708]

I have been through all stages while being on this thread (TTC, Pregnancy, MC, TTC again, Pregnancy, and now Parenting) and i love all you girls. Pray for you all daily but i do agree. When i was pregnant i felt guilty for coming in here...felt guilty for being pregnant and now that I have Isaiah its just hard to relate. But i will continue to pop in as to give you all continual prayer and support. We all have very different journeys, but at some point we can all relate and encourage one another.

 

[HappyAuntie]

Still ttc here (two years next month), though I joined the thread after it started. I haven't posted much here in a while but I still lurk and read everything. In retrospect, you may be right, Cheerios - maybe I haven't posted because there doesn't seem to have been much in the way of ttc conversation lately. (Honestly, I had completely forgotten this was a ttc group because I access it through my subscribed threads link and not through the ttc groups page! ) I think it's only natural that the pregnant ladies on here would want to continue their discussions, so I like the idea of a new FAITH pregnancy group to graduate into. But I also like the occasional encouraging word from those of you who've walked in our shoes, so I don't want you to leave us altogether, either!

(Am I making any sense? I'm still waking up! )

 

[ready4onemore]

Hey ladies,

For me I need the encouragement to continue. I do understand that those who have already are preggers and have delivered may have different issues now but we still need the encouragement and the love. Just my thoughts.

 

[Terangela]

I totally agree with the support, encouragement aspect of things, but I think those of us who want to discuss pregnancy and parenting could do it in another thread. Not to say we can't come on here for prayer support and aren't allowed to come on the TTC thread. But we really should keep the TTC board about TTC. I think also for those TTC and want to come to the pregnancy board are welcome to for the same reasons, to see how pregnancies are going and give us encouragement and advise.

 

[mrskcbrown]

I totally agree with the support, encouragement aspect of things, but I think those of us who want to discuss pregnancy and parenting could do it in another thread. Not to say we can't come on here for prayer support and aren't allowed to come on the TTC thread. But we really should keep the TTC board about TTC. I think also for those TTC and want to come to the pregnancy board are welcome to for the same reasons, to see how pregnancies are going and give us encouragement and advise.

Understood. I rarely say anything about my pregnancy on here anyway.

 

[TaeBoMama]

It's been forever since I posted here. I do stop by and read, occasionally. I personally don't see a problem with those who've achieved the goal, sticking around and sharing the details of their pregnancy. I've never understood the hard feelings some women have just hearing that someone else is pregnant. I think we should be happy for them!! It's perfectly fine to want something for ourselves, but we shouldn't have a problem when one of our sisters is blessed. I lost my mom 4 years ago. I don't get upset with folks who still have a mom around. I wouldn't tell anyone they couldn't talk about the lovely time they had going out to lunch and shopping with their mother. I'm happy for them! I think if something like this is causing bad feelings, we need to evaluate ourselves and pray for God to help us with negative feelings of jealousy/resentment.

Another team I belong to has a "graduate" team for those who've gotten their BFP. But thankfully, the graduates still come to our thread (those of us who just can't seem to catch the egg--there's only a few of us left) and share their pregnancy stories, ultrasound pics, etc. In fact, most have already delivered their babies and are posting the birth announcements and baby pics. And I LOVE it! I can't imagine not wanting to hear every detail just because I haven't gotten my BFP yet. That just makes no sense to me at all.

I've been overjoyed every time I saw someone on this team get their BFP. I hope everyone here feels the same way. We are Christians, right?