five year old missing!!

:hugs: mumandco, I hate dreams like that.

Yes, I do.
 
Tasha I've always hoped that someone else was involved and that they were taking care of her.
 
I think this case is so confusing because it just doesn't all add up!
I'm hoping the police have more information / evidence than they are letting on. I know they can't say but they still have quite a few blanks!

I also think mark covering for someone is possible! It's an interesting theory. But would another arrest have been made by now? :wacko:
 
Not without a body (sorry :( ) and not with an eye witness putting his vehicle at the time of the abduction..
 
Not without a body (sorry :( ) and not with an eye witness putting his vehicle at the time of the abduction..

Yes that's what I keep going back to, him speeding up and down the street, the little girl April was playing with must have identified him. The black bag in the river etc :cry:
 
Just wanted to share the info below. I hadn't thought of it like this, & certainly didn't realise
perverting the course of justice was rarely used. Something to think about!

"What is unusual is the 3 charges,just about everyone who murders someone and chooses not to confess will lie and conceal evidence in a very deliberate manner but this charge of perverting the course of justice is so rarely applied and ITV news say this charge applies to him hiding her body,well Ian Huntley did that,many killers did but didn't get that charge.

I think it is a back up,i think they have some evidence to believe she is dead and he killed her which is enough to obtain charges but i feel that although they are hoping to convict him for murder and do believe he did it they are not too confident that a jury will agree,a jury must be absolutely sure either all 12 or in some cases the majority.

If they don't gain more evidence leading up to the trial then they may lose the murder charge but so that he doesn't walk free they add abduction and perverting the course of justice,by doing that there are two more possible things to have him found guilty for and those things may be easier to prove than murder.

The maximum penalty is 10 years for perverting the course of justice,if he was found guilty of that in a case this serious he would probably get those 10 years.

I do wonder though,i mean obviously there are facts and evidence we can't know and the poor mother could be in denial but she knew this man and doesn't seem to believe he has killed her daughter at all,i hope the police are right because whilst i doubt that April is alive now if they are wrong they are going to lose all hope of finding the truth and ruin this man's life too.

We can only wait until the trial and verdict before we decide in our own minds if we think he really is guilty,he is innocent up to that point."

Sorry Hun but what's the source?

It reads reasonably well, however right at the start it uses Ian Huntley as an example of a killer who hid the body(ies) and didn't get the perverting the course of justice charge. Ian Huntley WAS charged with this, I actually mentioned it a few pages back as an example of why they would have charged MB with it, a couple of days before sky news said that was what the charge would relate to.
 
I have also believed there is someone else involved.. Still do something just does not add up.. Why after just kidnapping someone would you be soo brazen? Unless you did not have her anymore, and thats a very quick time to take her, and then dispose considering how fast the search started...

A discussion my friend had with me

She thinks its very fishy and that there is more than one person involved also, when the search first started he/they could of taken her straight out of the village so even once the blocks had gone up she was already out of there... So she could be anywhere I mean I google mapped it and its only like just over a 3hour drive to where I live, So mark could of taken her, handed her over and that person just sped off out of the village.. My friend believes its a inside job as well though however I don't think I agree with that really
 
I have also believed there is someone else involved.. Still do something just does not add up.. Why after just kidnapping someone would you be soo brazen? Unless you did not have her anymore, and thats a very quick time to take her, and then dispose considering how fast the search started...

A discussion my friend had with me

She thinks its very fishy and that there is more than one person involved also, when the search first started he/they could of taken her straight out of the village so even once the blocks had gone up she was already out of there... So she could be anywhere I mean I google mapped it and its only like just over a 3hour drive to where I live, So mark could of taken her, handed her over and that person just sped off out of the village.. My friend believes its a inside job as well though however I don't think I agree with that really

The roads out of town lead either towards Newtown or you could easily get up to Holyhead to ferries or even the northwest, and that's not counting the roads out of town going in the opposite direction. It probably sounds daft, but I still keep hoping that someone else was involved and that she's somewhere, still alive :hugs:
 
I have also believed there is someone else involved.. Still do something just does not add up.. Why after just kidnapping someone would you be soo brazen? Unless you did not have her anymore, and thats a very quick time to take her, and then dispose considering how fast the search started...

A discussion my friend had with me

She thinks its very fishy and that there is more than one person involved also, when the search first started he/they could of taken her straight out of the village so even once the blocks had gone up she was already out of there... So she could be anywhere I mean I google mapped it and its only like just over a 3hour drive to where I live, So mark could of taken her, handed her over and that person just sped off out of the village.. My friend believes its a inside job as well though however I don't think I agree with that really

The roads out of town lead either towards Newtown or you could easily get up to Holyhead to ferries or even the northwest, and that's not counting the roads out of town going in the opposite direction. It probably sounds daft, but I still keep hoping that someone else was involved and that she's somewhere, still alive :hugs:

I'm still hoping the same mainly because the family seem to still believe that she is not dead like they strongly believe he wouldn't of killed her I know they will still hope because they don't want there little girl to be gone forever but there must be something for them to think she is still alive
 
This is going to sound really silly, but has anyone ever heard of police asking physics for help? Ive read a few magazines were they have said they have been asked (the physics) and they have been bang on target. Times like this actually make you wonder.


Been praying for Aprils safe return
 
This is going to sound really silly, but has anyone ever heard of police asking physics for help? Ive read a few magazines were they have said they have been asked (the physics) and they have been bang on target. Times like this actually make you wonder.


Been praying for Aprils safe return

This usually only happens with cold cases, where a body has been undiscovered 10/20+ years.

Also evidence gathered this way is inadmissible in court so it really only serves a limited purpose.
 
I think they should ask physics too. I read somewhere, cant remember where now. That a medium had said to search a cottage by the river near a railway line. This was on tuesday, so in the 1st 24 hours way before they actually searched bridgers house. X
 
Yes I think they should aswell surely it won't have to stand up in court as long as they find the body doesn matter how they come to finding it surely?
 
That presumes that they always find a body. There have been cases where these psychics have been wrong and told how those disappeared died only for them to have later been found unharmed.

Also misinformation from psychics costs valuable police time and money.
 
Tasha, would you mind messaging me your thoughts about what may have happened too?

Early on I remember saying to my hubby that even if the roadblocks went up 30 mins after she was taken, if he was going to drive out of the village with her, that would still be 28 minutes too late. So technically yes....she could have been taken ANYWHERE.

My issue now though with this is that in the absence of a body (sorry), the evidence the police have MUST confirm her death. I don't see what 'mistake' the police could have made which means the evidence they think she has confirming she cannot be alive, is in fact 'wrong'? To bring charges without a body means the evidence must be strong, so we're not going to be talking about them having found clothing. IMO (graphic & upsetting)

They must have either found the murder scene, and therefore enough blood to show she cannot be alive, or if they haven't found the actual scene, enough blood somewhere else. I suppose the only option where they COULD be 'wrong' is say they found a knife with her blood on, what's to say she is actually dead.....but tbh I don't think this would be enough to bring a murder charge, for that very reason!

I would LOVE to cling to the hope she is alive somewhere, and if someone could explain how the police could be wrong about the evidence, I'd really love to hear it (that sounds sarcastic, I'm not being, I genuinely would LOVE an option whereby this could all be a terrible mistake)
 
I think they should ask physics too. I read somewhere, cant remember where now. That a medium had said to search a cottage by the river near a railway line. This was on tuesday, so in the 1st 24 hours way before they actually searched bridgers house. X

I am as spectical as they come but I was this too. There was a psycic on a fb group saying she could see a whitewashed house, WELL before Bridgers house was searched. (Well maybe they had searched it, but it was well before this was made public). Makes you think! I suppose she could have google earthed to see there was a white house but still - she made that link, well before it made it into the press.
 
I don't know what to believe with this story anymore. Still not convinced he alone did this ( if he did do it). It's a very strange case : /
 
I have a feeling this man knew shedding a few tears might get people on his side though :nope:
 

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