five year old missing!!

[Zizzle]

I'm so confused with what's going on too. How can they arrest someone for murder if they haven't confirmed it? Am I being thick?

 

[RedRose]

Maybe his behavior seems odd because he is in fact a mental child killer.

My gut feeling is he is guilty, the murder charge was made because of forensic evidence not circumstantial (ie cadaver fluid), and the perversion of justice charge is because he used the river.

 

[suzib76]

I'm so confused with what's going on too. How can they arrest someone for murder if they haven't confirmed it? Am I being thick?

They can't. They have to have enough forensic evidence that it will stand up in court

No one wants to believe this, but he hasn't been charged with murder for nothing, the police will have found evidence that points towards April no longer being with us. The isn't a happy ending where he gave her to someone else, they have found enough forensics against him to satisfy the crown prosecution service in taking this forward as a murder charge.

It isn't about what we have read in the paper, the only things we should be listening to are the official press releases from the police, anything else is just hearsay

 

[kaths101]

I agree with the above. I think if there was any hint of her still being alive they would still be searching and doing appeals! I think the police are certain.

I Think the tears were down to him suddenly realising what deep doo doo he was in and when he heard all the people shouting at him and throwing bottles and shoes at the van. Up until that point he had been pretty isolated from it all.

 

[Zizzle]

It's so sad.

 

[Louby]

I cant get my head round why a man would want to hurt a little girl for nothing

 

[beth_terri]

Sizib- exactly. There is no hope now. They have forensic evidence to prove she is no longer with us. They couldnt have charged him with murder without serious evidence. And I dont see that tgeres any way such evidence without a body could be wrong.

 

[lhancock90]

Maybe he confessed.

 

[special_kala]

Tasha, would you mind messaging me your thoughts about what may have happened too?

Early on I remember saying to my hubby that even if the roadblocks went up 30 mins after she was taken, if he was going to drive out of the village with her, that would still be 28 minutes too late. So technically yes....she could have been taken ANYWHERE.

My issue now though with this is that in the absence of a body (sorry), the evidence the police have MUST confirm her death. I don't see what 'mistake' the police could have made which means the evidence they think she has confirming she cannot be alive, is in fact 'wrong'? To bring charges without a body means the evidence must be strong, so we're not going to be talking about them having found clothing. IMO (graphic & upsetting)

Spoiler

They must have either found the murder scene, and therefore enough blood to show she cannot be alive, or if they haven't found the actual scene, enough blood somewhere else. I suppose the only option where they COULD be 'wrong' is say they found a knife with her blood on, what's to say she is actually dead.....but tbh I don't think this would be enough to bring a murder charge, for that very reason!

I would LOVE to cling to the hope she is alive somewhere, and if someone could explain how the police could be wrong about the evidence, I'd really love to hear it (that sounds sarcastic, I'm not being, I genuinely would LOVE an option whereby this could all be a terrible mistake)

I have to agree with this

Spoiler

there is only a certain amount of blood we can lose, if they founda scene with a lot of blood that could be what got it changed to murder.

For me i think the best we can do for April now is make sure justice is served.

 

[Mummy2B21]

Tasha, would you mind messaging me your thoughts about what may have happened too?

Early on I remember saying to my hubby that even if the roadblocks went up 30 mins after she was taken, if he was going to drive out of the village with her, that would still be 28 minutes too late. So technically yes....she could have been taken ANYWHERE.

My issue now though with this is that in the absence of a body (sorry), the evidence the police have MUST confirm her death. I don't see what 'mistake' the police could have made which means the evidence they think she has confirming she cannot be alive, is in fact 'wrong'? To bring charges without a body means the evidence must be strong, so we're not going to be talking about them having found clothing. IMO (graphic & upsetting)

Spoiler

They must have either found the murder scene, and therefore enough blood to show she cannot be alive, or if they haven't found the actual scene, enough blood somewhere else. I suppose the only option where they COULD be 'wrong' is say they found a knife with her blood on, what's to say she is actually dead.....but tbh I don't think this would be enough to bring a murder charge, for that very reason!

I would LOVE to cling to the hope she is alive somewhere, and if someone could explain how the police could be wrong about the evidence, I'd really love to hear it (that sounds sarcastic, I'm not being, I genuinely would LOVE an option whereby this could all be a terrible mistake)

Well that isnt the only thing they could of had Cadaver dogs in that detected her smell/ the smell of Cadaver in his car or his home along with traces of her being there recently etc. Maybe they found searches on his computer of ways to kill or something.... Whatever it is im sure they have there evidence for it.

 

[Harveysmum369]

If they don't find her,though,isn't it 7 years before she is declared legally dead...I can't see how they can do him for murder without a body...xx

 

[special_kala]

if there is evidence that she couldnt have survived then you dont have to wait 7 years

I think them finding alot of blood is what changed things

 

[suzib76]

If they don't find her,though,isn't it 7 years before she is declared legally dead...I can't see how they can do him for murder without a body...xx

That's missing presumed dead, which is more a case of a family being able to wind up the missing (presumed dead) persons estate instead of being in limbo

This case is entirely different, she hasn't just gone missing, she was taken and there is evidence to suggest (prove) that she is no longer alive

 

[Doodlepants]

if there is evidence that she couldnt have survived then you dont have to wait 7 years

I think them finding alot of blood is what changed things

^^That's what I thought too

 

[EmmyReece]

I keep thinking they spent a lot of time at the house and they put that sterile tent up. Now, please excuse me if I'm being naive, but would they actually put the tent up if they hadn't found anything? Would there be a point to them putting it up?

I really think they've found something and because of his rights to a fair trial they can't say what that is. The CPS wouldn't have agreed the charges if they didn't have the evidence

 

[mumj18]

Yes this is what I've been trying to say. I understand people wanting to cling to hope though. Lets just say for talking sake they went into his house and there was GRAPHIC loads and loads of blood up the walls etc. Too much for her to have survived then he would be charged with murder.

There's a case here in Scotland of a lady who hasn't been found but the man who did it is in jail and another one that happened maybe ten years ago.

Sorry to everyone clinging to hope but of the police have charged him with murder then she was murdered x

 

[EmmyReece]

Does anyone know what time he's due to appear in court tomorrow via video link or is that something we're not allowed to know?

 

[admiral765]

I don't understand that if they have found something which as they say is substantial evidence that she is sadly no longer alive, surely they should at least inform the parents. I don't think any other reason why they shouldn't is more important than the family knowing the truth if that is the case than allowing them to continue with false hope! Yesterday on the familys fb page, Aprils mum was pleading for anyone that may have her to let her go xx

 

[suzib76]

I don't understand that if they have found something which as they say is substantial evidence that she is sadly no longer alive, surely they should at least inform the parents. I don't think any other reason why they shouldn't is more important than the family knowing the truth if that is the case than allowing them to continue with false hope! Yesterday on the familys fb page, Aprils mum was pleading for anyone that may have her to let her go xx

They have informed the parents, they would have been the first to be told before the press conference was made that MB had been arrested on suspicion of murder, they would also have been told when the charges were made on Saturday before the press release

Aprils mum is in a very difficult place right now, denial is a natural stage of grief, but without a body in particular it is easy to see why she would be clinging onto every inch of hope that there is

The family will have been told the truth, clinging on to false hope is just a natural reaction

 

[EmmyReece]

I wanted to share this photo that someone from Machynlleth took, this policeman has been a complete and utter star ever since she went missing, very proud to have such dedicated members of the police in our area