five year old missing!!

[Doodlepants]

This has really made me sad. Not just what has happened to this poor little girl but other people's attitudes towards it.

What we would have done/wouldn't have done in their situation is irrelevant and passing judgement on her parents is just appalling

 

[Ozzieshunni]

I'm worried I'm being lumped in as being unsympathetic. What I did say earlier was I would not let my child play outside, but April's parents felt safe enough to let their daughter out to play. Some jerkbag scum took advantage of that.

 

[porkypig]

I'm worried I'm being lumped in as being unsympathetic. What I did say earlier was I would not let my child play outside, but April's parents felt safe enough to let their daughter out to play. Some jerkbag scum took advantage of that.

oh dont worry hun, you may as well be lumped in with me, after all my views are so outragious.

 

[xprincessx]

 

[Tasha]

oh dont worry hun, you may as well be lumped in with me, after all my views are so outragious.

No one said your views were outrageous. How you put them across was callous though, and when people said as much you said you didnt care or something about pussyfooting around.

On this thread we have cried many tears for April, for her parents, her siblings, everyone that loved her. MANY of us have said how we feel emotionally involved some how. So to judge and put it in the way you did, and on a thread like this didnt sit right with me (and others).

 

[Emma&Freya]

Aprils parents will now no not to let their children play out unsupervised. Its a lesson learnt to us ALL in sad circumstances.

Lets not argue over a missing child. Were grown ups

 

[Jem_x3]

I'm worried I'm being lumped in as being unsympathetic. What I did say earlier was I would not let my child play outside, but April's parents felt safe enough to let their daughter out to play. Some jerkbag scum took advantage of that.

I don't think you're unsympathetic. There's more than just you with that view. It's the way you've put your opinion across in an empathetic way, I don't think you've offended anyone

 

[Wobbles]

The thread is 225 pages long, they are my opinions... I know I'm the Admin but I have thoughts on off topic stuff/non forum related stuff too. You would know I generally feel like this Ozzi since you're on my FB.

I have said (on FB) I wouldn't let my 2 play out let alone at that time but I don't find it relevant in the public debate and just don't think it should be a debate. I believe there is a massive difference between some news reports that show clear child neglect and this story which is truly heartbreaking and I don't blame the parents it doesn't scream judgement time for the world. etc Again not based on one specific reply (or member).

Some of the stuff said in this thread (the 225 pages of it) is a case of (imo) not what you say or think but how you do it.

 

[Donna35]

Aprils parents will now no not to let their children play out unsupervised. Its a lesson learnt to us ALL in sad circumstances.

Lets not argue over a missing child. Were grown ups

Your first sentence is absolutely disgusting IMO. It almost smacks of 'serves them right, they've learnt a lesson'

I think this and porkypigs opinion that they should be 'bollocked' are wrong on so many levels. You state that we're 'grown ups'. Yes we are, and we're also human beings and EVERYONE makes errors of judgement. As 'grown ups' and humans we should show some compassion to April's parents. They've lost their daughter. They do NOT need to be judged by any of us on it!!! Don't you think they're 'bollocking' themselves and each other over and over about this happening, don't you think they are beating themselves up enough over it without us doing it too??

God forbid that they or any of their family comes across this thread and some of the lousy attitudes in it.

 

[lhancock90]

I leave everyone to carry on with this discussion as clearly I'm in the 'wrong' for thinking a 5 year old should be indoors at 7pm on an darkening school night and should not be left unsupervised.

You aren't wrong no. Its your opinion and you are more than entitiled to it but, it is the absolute last thing that needs to be said. I'm sure her parents are being tortured enough by these thoughts without the rest of the world jumping in. There is no place for criticism in a situation where a child has been lost this way, they have been punished enough.

For all those that have an opinion on the time she was playing outside have any of you lived in the Mach? Curious...

EXACTLY THIS.
I have spent a lot of time in Mach. Its a community atmosphere. Totally different dynamic to most of the places we all live.


x

 

[xprincessx]

Hun I think Emma was replying to PorkyPig in the sense that yes they realised they made a mistake and wouldn't do it now they know the price they paid for it.

I think Emma agrees with us that the comments made on here are uncalled for, think you just read it wrong x

 

[Wobbles]

For all those that have an opinion on the time she was playing outside have any of you lived in the Mach? Curious...

EXACTLY THIS.
I have spent a lot of time in Mach. Its a community atmosphere. Totally different dynamic to most of the places we all live.


x

I haven't been there but OH has lived there and his best mate still lives there. I have been able to get an idea and feel of the community... well how it once was for many years

This has been covered in the news also, including the awards they have won. Massive blow to them in the most awful circumstances.

 

[lhancock90]

For all those that have an opinion on the time she was playing outside have any of you lived in the Mach? Curious...

EXACTLY THIS.
I have spent a lot of time in Mach. Its a community atmosphere. Totally different dynamic to most of the places we all live.


x

I haven't been there but OH has lived there and his best mate still lives there. I have been able to get an idea and feel of the community... well how it once was for many years

This has been covered in the news also, including the awards they have won. Massive blow to them in the most awful circumstances.

I think i get so het up about the subject because i love that town, its the nicest place in the world and for this to happen? I feel that in a way every person in that town has now suffered.

 

[Tasha]

I just cant believe it has been two weeks tonight. In some ways it doesnt feel that long yet it feels like forever we have know April's little face too doesnt it?

I still cant imagine what it must be like, two weeks of being ni limbo, yes they have been told she has been murdered but not having April to say goodbye to

 

[Ozzieshunni]

It's horrible when bad things happen in normally quiet and nice towns. It dampens the whole atmosphere and you begin to doubt everyone and everything

 

[Emma&Freya]

Aprils parents will now no not to let their children play out unsupervised. Its a lesson learnt to us ALL in sad circumstances.

Lets not argue over a missing child. Were grown ups

Your first sentence is absolutely disgusting IMO. It almost smacks of 'serves them right, they've learnt a lesson'

I think this and porkypigs opinion that they should be 'bollocked' are wrong on so many levels. You state that we're 'grown ups'. Yes we are, and we're also human beings and EVERYONE makes errors of judgement. As 'grown ups' and humans we should show some compassion to April's parents. They've lost their daughter. They do NOT need to be judged by any of us on it!!! Don't you think they're 'bollocking' themselves and each other over and over about this happening, don't you think they are beating themselves up enough over it without us doing it too??

God forbid that they or any of their family comes across this thread and some of the lousy attitudes in it.

why is my comment disgusting?

xprincessx summed what I said up.

 

[lhancock90]

I'm abit sick of reading here and elsewhere that they "let this happen"
How did they?
Did they hang a sign around her head asking for her to be taken and murdered? No they didn't. They allowed their daughter, to play with her friends (don't forget other kids were out that day) because she'd had such a glowing school report. In the town they had lived in their entire lives and had always believed safe.
How dare anybody think they have the right to say "they let it happen"
No, the monster that did this MADE it happen.

 

[Donna35]

Aprils parents will now no not to let their children play out unsupervised. Its a lesson learnt to us ALL in sad circumstances.

Lets not argue over a missing child. Were grown ups

Your first sentence is absolutely disgusting IMO. It almost smacks of 'serves them right, they've learnt a lesson'

I think this and porkypigs opinion that they should be 'bollocked' are wrong on so many levels. You state that we're 'grown ups'. Yes we are, and we're also human beings and EVERYONE makes errors of judgement. As 'grown ups' and humans we should show some compassion to April's parents. They've lost their daughter. They do NOT need to be judged by any of us on it!!! Don't you think they're 'bollocking' themselves and each other over and over about this happening, don't you think they are beating themselves up enough over it without us doing it too??

God forbid that they or any of their family comes across this thread and some of the lousy attitudes in it.

why is my comment disgusting?

xprincessx summed what I said up.

You said they now know not to let the children out unsupervised. Put yourself in their shoes. How would you feel if you (God forbid) had something like that happen to one of YOUR children and someone said 'now she knows not to let them out' Can you not see how hurtful that is to someone already in more pain than anyone could even dream of??

 

[indy and lara]

I have wondered previously about how dark it was at the time April was out playing. I am a lot further North so we are darker a lot earlier and was never sure.

Personally I cannot fathom letting a child out to play at 5 years old at that time of night on a school night. While you cannot remove risk of harm completely I do believe in trying to minimise it as much as possible while allowing children the opportunity to be children. For me, 5 is too little to be out playing on a school night after 6pm at night.

Hallelujah, someone who is on my wave length.

So your saying a child is safer playing out before 6?

If this man wanted to snatch april he would of done it no matter what the time
Or if he just wanted a child he would of taken anyone of those kids playing outside be they 5,6,7,8,9 etc

I wouldn't let my 5,6,7 or 8 yr old out to play because we don't live in a very nice area however if I lived where I grew up I prob would

Just because I wouldn't do it it doesn give me or anyone else the right to question why Aprils parents did

No, I am saying I would not have a child who is age 5 outside playing after 5 on a school night, supervised or not. I see the other side of kids who are out playing at night and overtired in the morning every day at work so I feel this time is too late. Before 6 E may well be outside but it would be with supervision (albeit at a distance). We all make our own choices about what is acceptable to us and this would be mine.

At the moment it is worth mentioning that the man is custody may have been charged with her murder but he is still innocent until proven guilty. None of us know if this was a premeditated attack, if he was cruising for a child or it was an accident covered up. Or even if he is guilty.

 

[indy and lara]

This has just come to mind for me. Lots of people are saying that it is totally wrong to judge the actions of April's parents etc. However, when Madeleine McCann went missing people did exactly that. They judged people who thought that what they were doing was safe. I wonder what the difference is?