General chatter while we wait (and commentary on the "pull out method")

[mrs.green2015]

I'm like 95% sure I'm not ovulating it was only a 23 day cycle. It's it seems like a cruel joke. First you take away my baby and now you won't even give me an opportunity to have another. Since its on to February that means if it's not this month it's been a year since Ttc. A f*%cking year. What other healthy 24 and 27 year old does it take a year? I'm just so incredibly defeated and sad today. I feel like if I go to my doctor nothing will happen. Doctors don't like it when you think you know what's going on. So I'm ready to give up. Sorry for the rant.

 

[TexasRider]

Green- I feel like in September I had a chemical or something. I was late for AF and then got my period. The next 3 cycles were crazy... 2 were really short (18,15 days) and one was super long 65. I had my new OB do bloodwork and all was ok. Started provera for a period and then I had a normal cycle. It was a little short at 25 days but I had good ovulation etc. Maybe your body is still adjusting? Either way maybe you should give your doctor a call. I'm sorry you have to go through this. It really sucks

 

[gigglebox]

Mrs unfortunately lots of perfectly healthy women go through it. Doesn't make it any easier though, even if everyone went through it, it still hurts like heck.

I read this article yesterday...though none of us have any know infertility issues, and some of us already have kids, it still hit home a bit. Thought i'd share: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/coll...l?utm_hp_ref=women&ir=Women&section=us_women&

 

[campn]

I'm like 95% sure I'm not ovulating it was only a 23 day cycle. It's it seems like a cruel joke. First you take away my baby and now you won't even give me an opportunity to have another. Since its on to February that means if it's not this month it's been a year since Ttc. A f*%cking year. What other healthy 24 and 27 year old does it take a year? I'm just so incredibly defeated and sad today. I feel like if I go to my doctor nothing will happen. Doctors don't like it when you think you know what's going on. So I'm ready to give up. Sorry for the rant.

Big hug to you. It's not fair and you don't deserve this Your doctor could give you clomid to see if that could help. You're still getting a period so at least your body is on track but you're not releasing eggs for some reason. You know? Not like a 55 day cycle with no end in sight. Go to your doctor or find another doctor willing to listen to you. You're still very young so don't you give up!! I would feel exactly like you and you're handling it great, we all need to get it all out and rant.

Seems like we're all having a horrible day. Can it be the weekend already!??

 

[JLM73]

Campn Relax
Step AWAYYYY from the ledge hehe
They have to use various diagnosis codes to justify getting PAID for certain procedures. No worries!!
Medical diagnosis coding is just their way of saying Hmmm what will give us the mossst $$$ lol

Giggsey I had a zillion scans Transvag ( ugh) as a surro and yup, their is nothing more than a VERRRY small space inside the top of the uterus when not preg AND in very early preg. The walls pretty much touch, and the space is filled with the same type cm you see when we check ourselves. But def not AIR- that is no bueno!! That's why they have to be Sooo careful doing IVF/IUI- air in there can kill ya!
Check the pic below
Normal Transvag US-non preg Labeled

TransVag no labels- non preg

 

[JLM73]

MrsG
I am so very sorry....definitely feel your pain as I had 2-3 chems last year, and I'm going on 15 cycles...
I am chalking mine up to age tho, only to make myself feel better really.
I keep getting perfect time OPKs and "confirmed O rises" every single month
But honestly I am doubting that after all this time.
I am beginning to think it's poss to NOT Ov and still get some kind of temp rise just due to hormones gearing up...
TTC is so crushing heartbreaking and BullS*it to me most days.
Feels like some cruel God is designating how many children we can have if any, and just plays with our minds like some petty child saying "NOPE ha ha, you are cut off from having a baby!" Like dangling carrots of hope in our faces then snatching it away over and over.
I def have wanted to give up EVERY month...

I don't recall if you had any fertility checks. My insur doesn't cover ANY, but hope you can get some answers sweetie.

 

[claireybell]

So sorry MrsG i wonder if you are not ovulating or only every so many cycles? Def have a chat with your Dr, he/she will prescribe Clomid or something to boast your egg releases.. my sister fell preggers first round with Clomid i found out today, def worth a chat xx

Ooh i always wondered what the inside of a uterus looked like, i just asumed there was a gap, you probs fo know this but did you know our Fallopian tubes are not stationary, the move about inside & your left tube can grab an egg coming from the righ ovary Drs after my Ectopic surgery told me that! Bit freaky that their in there like little arms & hands waving about hahaa

 

[JLM73]

I know righhhht CB!!
I only found this out when doing the surro IVF as well. The first lady I worked with was using her own eggs, and they always had trouble getting eggs from one Ovary due to the movement when they tried to poke the needle in ....and OUCH!

Also, there is a gap between the Ovary and the F tube, so it's like the egg releases and can actually float away from the tube if the little cilia hair things aren't waving like mad to suck the egg in the tube
I picture it like a plane doing a supply drop from the sky, and all the crazy villagers are running around with their arms in the air trying to guess where it's gonna land to catch it

Man...no idea how ANY of us get preg with all the road blocks!
Oh and due to the gap between tube and ovary, who arrive too soon can actually swim OUT of the tube past the ovary!? WTH is going o in there!!
That's part of the reason our cm, and the cilia hair things delay slowing some of them over a couple days so they don't all get right in and out the other end of the tube before eggy pops.

Preg is an amazing process, but Geez it is like winning the lotto for real!

 

[JLM73]

Oh and I am cd18...roughly 4dpo. Gonna take this cycle off temping as I am 100% out with no donor and cuz everytime I look at FF I am reminded about the donor bail
Checking out some new prospects. I just don't trust the last one not to bail on me again.

 

[mrs.green2015]

Not to take up this thread but I have a couple questions.

1. To all the chart experts- would you actually say I ovulated this month?

2. If I did, why/how am I already getting AF only 5 days after ovulation?

3. I think I might take the cohosh and progesterone this month no matter what the chart says (just like I did when I got prego) and if I don't then see the doc in March. Is that what you would suggest or just see the doc and why?

 

[mrs.green2015]

And thank you all for your encouragement. I appreciate it. I've cried/ teared up all morning.

J- really glad you're looking for a new donor!

 

[campn]

Wow for reals!!! You grow up seeing how everyone you know has 3-4 kids and you think it's so easy to get pregnant and stay pregnant and those who never got pregnant must have like a uterus missing or something and can't be something small! I didn't know a little hormonal imbalance could totally ruin your life.

Sometimes I tell myself why do I even want them so bad!? They make life so much harder (and messier) but here we are, we'd give an arm away for one!

 

[campn]

So I just called the lab tech so not sure what the doctor thinks of this yet,
But first beta was 16,674 and the second was 23,604

It didn't double so I've no idea what this means. I'm so frustrated and don't think this is going to end good.

 

[mrs.green2015]

How many hours in between Campn?

 

[campn]

48 hours

The doctor should call me they said...

 

[mrs.green2015]

Online if you google beta level calculator. It says 72-96 hours doubling time is normal for your level. Your time is 95 hours. sending you tons and tons of good vibes.

 

[gigglebox]

Positive vibes to both you, campn, and you mrs! I'm so sorry you are both dealing with things without knowing what's going on our the outcome. I know you are both frustrated, and i hate how waiting is all you can really do.

I agree, I'm at chikfila and Des refuses to get out of the play tubes and it smells like a foot in here and I'm like...wait why do i want another? Ha

 

[FutureMrs]

Sending good vibes your way mrs and campn! & some prayers that everything checks out just fine!

 

[claireybell]

As long as the rise is very big im betting all is fine Campn, try to relax hun

 

[claireybell]

I know righhhht CB!!
I only found this out when doing the surro IVF as well. The first lady I worked with was using her own eggs, and they always had trouble getting eggs from one Ovary due to the movement when they tried to poke the needle in ....and OUCH!

Also, there is a gap between the Ovary and the F tube, so it's like the egg releases and can actually float away from the tube if the little cilia hair things aren't waving like mad to suck the egg in the tube
I picture it like a plane doing a supply drop from the sky, and all the crazy villagers are running around with their arms in the air trying to guess where it's gonna land to catch it

Man...no idea how ANY of us get preg with all the road blocks!
Oh and due to the gap between tube and ovary, who arrive too soon can actually swim OUT of the tube past the ovary!? WTH is going o in there!!
That's part of the reason our cm, and the cilia hair things delay slowing some of them over a couple days so they don't all get right in and out the other end of the tube before eggy pops.

Preg is an amazing process, but Geez it is like winning the lotto for real!

I know its a crazy process & yet its nature & its sometimes the hardest thing to achieve?! Why oh why?!! You can see why some ectopic's end up implanting in the abdomen & ovaries etc