I'm afraid that it is such a big deal to some people, that smoking an occasional joint is enough to turn them off. I tend to not hang out or talk to anyone who breaks the law. If I find out someone is doing something criminal, I don't go any further...that is that. I am sure you think he is wonderful, I just don't befriend people like that. And, no, I don't know anyone at my work that does illegal activities. It is very frowned upon...maybe where you are? I am not sure. Again, I would be careful if you know of someone, they might not want the being passed around that the RCMP where you are smoke pot. lol
Please read my post with a little thought and reply when you can. I am always disturbed by views such as yours (and they are common) and do not want to start an argument but REALLY HONESTLY want to UNDERSTAND and get what your point of view is and where it comes from and why you have it.
I understand people being against someone who commits crimes that are immoral in their personal view. But to say you do not associate with ANYONE who has ever done anything criminal is (and PLEASE seriously don't take this personally) a very conditioned mind which gets its morality from the law which I see as an extremely troubling thing.
Your morality should come from a set of principles that you define for yourself and redefine throughout life due to your experiences in my point of view. What is it that makes you give that responsibility over to anyone or anything? That is what I want to understand. At what point do you say "well I CHOOSE not to think for myself to figure out what is right and wrong based on my view of the world and instead I will hand over that huge responsibility to ______" Fill in the blank, in your case the law.
To say you never question the law means that depending on which society you live in or which society you were born into you could be complicit (and I use the word knowing it's criminal references) in a whole host of HIGHLY immoral things. To not question certain laws is horrific. In certain countries it is law to stone people to death for adultery. It has been law for black people to be treated as inferior to white people. If nobody questioned the law we would have sexism and racism which were not just institutionalised or subtle but lead to horrific and murderous acts. Also laws mean that cannabis is totally decriminalised (holland and potentially California after november) or used for medical purposes (all over the states and canada) or an offence than you can get the death penalty for in certain countries.
I could start going through some of the acts which have been made possible from thinking like that but after the sexism, racism, holocaust, and all sorts of TERRIBLE things which have happened legally in so many countries throughout history and still happen today I think it's just a case of reading a couple of history book to know. So my question which I would LOVE to have answered is that how to you get to a place where defining your morality on the law is considered a moral thing?
We are society and the law is OURS. We existed before the law and we MADE the laws to help society function. Some of those laws are and have throughout history been incorrect/immoral. So why would anyone in this day and age choose to give the law precedence over their own mind?
In terms of mind altering substances. To me the act of criminalising an individual for smoking pot in their own home or in any manner which does not interfere with anyone else is the immoral act. Stop locking people up for having a joint. It's immoral to do so. In that case it is not the drug which is ruining lives but the law as these people are not a danger to society or themselves.
Well, I don't agree with people who believe they are above the law. We have laws in place to protect people, and to have order. Those who go around thinking it doesn't apply to them, or that they are the exception to the rule really irk me. Where do you draw the line? Is it ok for you to speed? Drink while driving? Smoke pot? If you disagree with a law, go about to try and make changes, but if you break the law, then I don't trust you as a person. I don't trust that you wouldn't break the law somewhere else. To me, that shows lack of morals in a person. This is my conclusion, and I can honestly say, that in 'real life' the only people I know who do drugs are losers. They are brainless, and destructive to themselves, and selfish. Maybe you have met 'better' drug users, but I have not. If someone smoked a joint in front of me...I would leave, and possibly phone the police. To me, smoking cigs, drinking to get plastered, and smoking pot are not qualities that I find attractive in anyone. I am not a teenager anymore. I am 35 years old, and to me, that seems very highschoolish (btw, I did not do drugs in highschool). Those are my morals. If someone had cancer and was terminal (as one of my friends is right now) and they needed pot, like it was PRESCRIBED, then I would be accepting, but not want to see it. It's not that I don't think for myself. There are laws that I don't agree with...like the new prostitution thing...that it is legal for a brothel...forget it...I don't agree with that. I think for myself. I have a brain that hasn't been contaminated by drugs and I don't wear rose coloured glasses either...I see it for what it is.
Not sure where I said I didn't question the law??? Can you show me where I said that? Perhaps I mis-spoke, or perhaps you misunderstood.
You heavily implied that all laws are moralistic (or at least those of the country you are from) and anyone who breaks the law therefore meets your heavy disapproval including a member's husband.
So in your opinion, a woman in Iran NOT covering herself up according to the law and not trying to change that would be immoral for thinking she was above the law by showing too much leg? That law protects the society of Iran. Or a man in Saudi Arabia who is gay and have chosen to partake in an affair should be put to death as he is obviously thinking he is above the law of his own country and no one is, and hey he wasn't trying to change the law so he gets what he deserves by law.
I just don't understand if you would consider yourself different from people who thought this way? What makes you different to someone in those countries thinking no one is above the law?
As for the drug users you know? That just doesn't make for an argument as it's a little like people who are blindly biased about anything. Some people might say all the black people they know are hoodlums or all the Asians they know are dirty or all the immigrants they know are stealing good people's jobs and living off benefits. They might then say "you might come across better black people/Asians/immigrant but I have not"
There are PLENTY of drug users who do all sorts of successful non loserish things. And I pretty much guarantee that A LARGE number of successful people in every walk of life smoke pot.
People who hove done drugs which has inspired their highly successful work include:
Francis Crick - Claimed he wouldn't have discovered the double helix form of DNA without LSD. He won a Nobel prize by the way. Slight way off from loserish.
Aldous Huxley - Was inspired by drugs many tims and especially in writing "the Island".
Much of the best music on the last 100 years was inspired by drugs.
Many creative people in drama, film, art and scientists in research and medicine are quiet and responsible, recreational users of drugs. Just because you only hear about the bad or know the bad is probably because you may come across or are very honest in your narrow view on this issue and so people won't go around telling you they partake in things if they are normal people.
I can't even reply to such an absurd post. If you have something related in anyway to what we are actually talking about, I will respond. 
I think what you've experienced chimes with a previous post of mne that people are all different and respond to drugs in different ways and we can't necessarily predict how that will manifest.
