Immunize or not?

For me,the letter u get with ur vaccination date saying "be wise,immunise" says it all.IMO when people don't immunise they r putting there strong headed beliefs over the safety of their children and others.just
my opinion and don't mean to course offense but this subject will always divide so u can't please everyone xx
 
just my opinion and don't mean to course offense but this subject will always divide so u can't please everyone xx

I think people should have this as a compulsory disclaimer under their signature these days! :haha: xx
btw I think you're one of the nicest posters on here :flower:
 
As I have already said there are usually very VERY good reasons why some parents choose to delay or not vaccinate. Until you have to make that very very difficult decision of whether to vaccinate or risk the reaction that they may have already had or if you have had a child with severe reactions then you are very lucky that your LO hasn't had any of the reactions that some children have had! Appreciate that it is not a decision that any parents takes lightly. And it has nothing to do with my 'beliefs' as we were actually very pro vaccinations before we had them.
I am hoping to get the separate jabs for my LO 2nd and 3rd vaccinations as I'm concerned the 1st set caused a reaction that ended up with him being in hospital for over a week covered in wires and hooked up to monitors! So please please stop saying that it is because parents are worried about their babies crying! There is far more to it than that!
Sorry rant over!
 
I immunise my kids, not only for thier health, but also for the health of the poorly children who can't have vaccines for health reason and for the babies that are too young for them.
 
Pediatric nurse and mom to a 2 month old here :flower:

Before I left for maternity leave, I remember a kid getting admitted meningococcal meningitis. I'll never forget the look in his mother's face :-(

As a pediatric nurse, can you enlighten the rest of us as to why the vaccines are so close together?

I asked my doctor and she said it's for maximum immunity.
Would you say this is accurate?

I'm rather weary of them being so close together.

Long story short, your MD is right. Baby needs to build immunity and also, the schedule was based on the deaths of non-vaccinated infants and children. Delaying them will just put them at more risk but it's better than not getting vaccinated at all. Not only are they at risk for death but other family members/neighbors are also in danger.

As for the whole autism debate, I've read studies that say delaying vaccines WILL prevent autism and others that say it doesn't matter. I guess "mother knows best for her children." My poor baby has his 2 month shots next week. I'm going to set a reminder on my phone to give him some infant's Tylenol 30 minutes before his appointment :)
 
Bit of a toughie with our LO, due to vaccine reactions in the family.
We are leaving it for now, as the risks outweigh the benefits, but may still vaccinate in the future. x
 
Boo has and will be vaccinated. My OH had a horrific reaction to his vaccinations (ended up in a coma and in hospital for 4 weeks) but the benefits well outweigh the risks as far as we're concerned. And so far so good, she's slept a bit more than normal but she's been okay.
 
We don't vaccinate. My oldest was vaccinated fully up until about 3, my 2nd until about 2 with a few we declined and then my 3rd and 4th have had none.

I see some people saying they are nurses and have seen awful stuff so that is a big reason they do but just another perspective our old pediatrician when we lived in CO had 5 kids and chose not to vaccinate as well. I have known quite a few drs that don't or at least delay. Then we had to take Preston into the ER recently...something completely unrelated to vaccines lol...but the dr there even told us she doesn't either. So there are many drs and nurses out there that see the same things and yet still choose not to. It's a risk either way, just have to decide what's best for your own family.
 
It's a risk either way, just have to decide what's best for your own family.

I agree. I think location plays a big factor here. I don't know if this applies to the rest of California but in Northern Cali where we live, children can't go to school unless they've received all their shots.
 
It's a risk either way, just have to decide what's best for your own family.

I agree. I think location plays a big factor here. I don't know if this applies to the rest of California but in Northern Cali where we live, children can't go to school unless they've received all their shots.


That's what they try and make you believe but that actually isn't true :flower: In the state of California there are medical and philosophical exemptions. So if your child is allergic or has some medical condition that you can't vaccinate that would be under medical and philosophical is just because it goes against what you believe, you don't want them to have them. So you have to either turn in a vaccine record or an exemption form :)

https://www.nvic.org/Vaccine-Laws/state-vaccine-requirements/california.aspx
 
Kian has had all of his so far and will be going for his 13 month ones on Tuesday.
I have been going through the massive debate of should we or shouldn't we since his last set of injections and decided that it's best for him if he does have the MMR.
 
They offer the BCG here however the health professionals admitted in this particular area TB is non-existent and its just because its a London-wide recommendation that it was advised here; they then tried to say as my OH is 'foreign' then the boys need that vaccine as TB is probably rampant in 'his' country, but we looked into it and my OHs country has a low prevelance of TB, lower than the UK plus he has no family there anymore anyway. The type of TB the BCG protects against affects only children and very young people, this is why they no longer vaccinate in the teen years as the vaccine is not effective against the form of TB more common in adults so it was a bit pointless giving it then. Anyway we personally felt the risks of that vaccine outweighed any benefits, especially as we know of a couple of babies who developed bone abscesses at the injection site-they don't only look awful but have permanently affected the mobility in that arm xx

Like i said its dependant on where you live. I live in Luton, and not only have i heard of people who have active tb, who live close to me- theres also a wide multiculture of people in quite a small area here so i felt it was better to take that risk and monitor his arm carefully, than risk him catching it, especially as we live near the town centre and pass though it (and crowds of people ) most days.

its all about weighing up the risks.
 
They offer the BCG here however the health professionals admitted in this particular area TB is non-existent and its just because its a London-wide recommendation that it was advised here; they then tried to say as my OH is 'foreign' then the boys need that vaccine as TB is probably rampant in 'his' country, but we looked into it and my OHs country has a low prevelance of TB, lower than the UK plus he has no family there anymore anyway. The type of TB the BCG protects against affects only children and very young people, this is why they no longer vaccinate in the teen years as the vaccine is not effective against the form of TB more common in adults so it was a bit pointless giving it then. Anyway we personally felt the risks of that vaccine outweighed any benefits, especially as we know of a couple of babies who developed bone abscesses at the injection site-they don't only look awful but have permanently affected the mobility in that arm xx

Like i said its dependant on where you live. I live in Luton, and not only have i heard of people who have active tb, who live close to me- theres also a wide multiculture of people in quite a small area here so i felt it was better to take that risk and monitor his arm carefully, than risk him catching it, especially as we live near the town centre and pass though it (and crowds of people ) most days.

its all about weighing up the risks.

I know and I am not knocking deciding to have it; but to say everyone in the entire greater London area is at equal risk as the NHS is saying isn't correct; nor does having a parent born 'abroad' mean you're necessarily at risk either, even some developing countries have lower rates of TB than the UK. xx
 
I am all for vaccinations, as in my experience, the benefits far outweigh any risks. I would feel uncomfortable leaving my girls unvaccinated and both my girls are up to date with all their immunisations..
 
I mentioned in a post earlier but I am really uninformed about the 'risks' of getting vaccinated. Could someone please explain why (aside from a bad reaction to the vaccines or allergies, as some have already mentioned) you would choose not to vaccinate? And what is the benefit of delaying them?

Thanks :flower:
 
I will be going on a delayed schedule with this baby. I declined the hepatitis at birth shot.

Our eldest son has a mild form of Asperger's syndrome and I have no idea if vaccines played a role or not. The research is confusing and the parents of autistic children's stories are heartbreaking.

I am trying to "split the difference" by getting them, but not lumping them together. I really dread the Dtap.

If our baby was going to daycare, I would follow the recommended schedule, but since he is home, I am going to delay a bit.
 
just my opinion and don't mean to course offense but this subject will always divide so u can't please everyone xx

I think people should have this as a compulsory disclaimer under their signature these days! :haha: xx
btw I think you're one of the nicest posters on here :flower:

Awww thank u Hun,I don't like offending people so try to b as "vanilla" as possible normally lol I also NORMALLY give my opinion and not go back in the thread anymore as I'm scared about the reactions that follow :haha: xx
 
I mentioned in a post earlier but I am really uninformed about the 'risks' of getting vaccinated. Could someone please explain why (aside from a bad reaction to the vaccines or allergies, as some have already mentioned) you would choose not to vaccinate? And what is the benefit of delaying them?

Thanks :flower:

For me

- it is common sense to wait until a childs immune system is more mature to avert any possible immunity reactions due to the injections being given at a very early age

- i cannot see how a child who was 4 weeks premature, a child who was bang on their due date and a child 2 weeks late are 'the same' at 8 weeks so i would rather it was based on the child rather than a blanket rule for all

- The diseases that these vaccination protect against, are SO rare and SO unheard of in the UK (where i live) that it becomes a question of 'why' vaccinate so early, rather than a question of 'why not'

- I believe that even though it is only 1 child in a few hundred thousand that WILL be damaged by vaccines, that that one child is important and sacred, if hold off on vaccination means i can make a little bit more sure that the one child isn't MY child then i will

- Vaccines are a mixture of toxins, metals, preservatives and other nasties, i dont think they are appropriate for such tiny, tiny babies who are designed only for breastmilk and are delicate little beings, i prefer to wait until six months when at least the little beings are ready for food! Just makes sense to me!

- i am confident my breastmilk offers good immunity until 6 months of age when (i personally) begin a vaccination program x
 
We vaccinated Nathan with the early jabs and we were delaying the MMR until he is two. In the meantime we have found out that he has an immunodeficiency and his body never built up immunity to the jabs he has already had. For him they were pointless and risky.

For this reason I am so glad we delayed the MMR so he didn't have it for nothing and risked him getting quite ill from it.
 

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